COVID-19

[TorontoGold]

Agreeable? If I were to sit here and write the things she has gone through and claim i completely understood... I would only be telling you things i'm not sure i completely understand yet.

I'm just curious why you think you understand the facts that are yet to be told and/or understood.

You can give your top 3 or 5 favorite pieces she's put out.

It's not that I understand "the facts", it's knowing who the reputable sources are. Someone who's regularly in jeopardy of losing their medical license, is not trustworthy IMO.

 

[Circa]

You can give your top 3 or 5 favorite pieces she's put out.

It's not that I understand "the facts", it's knowing who the reputable sources are. Someone who's regularly in jeopardy of losing their medical license, is not trustworthy IMO.

Ok. #1 She was not regularly looked at as a medical practitioner.

#2 She was a scientist that worked for the CDC or it's affiliate for over 20 years.

#3 She was put in jail because she had information related to vaccines.(whether they were hers or not, why would the USG put her in jail over information related to the vaccines we give our children?... She studied them and what many people don't understand Is,.. the the studies that go on are funded through our taxpaying dollar.

#4. please stop looking at everything as If you already know.....



#5! I know I don't understand.

 

[TorontoGold]

Ok. #1 She was not regularly looked at as a medical practitioner.

#2 She was a scientist that worked for the CDC or it's affiliate for over 20 years.

#3 She was put in jail because she had information related to vaccines.(whether they were hers or not, why would the USG put her in jail over information related to the vaccines we give our children?... She studied them and what many people don't understand Is,.. the the studies that go on are funded through our taxpaying dollar.

#4. please stop looking at everything as If you already know.....



#5! I know I don't understand.

Ok

1) You like that she isnt seen as a medical practitioner?
2) Cancer institute, but yeah similar idea
3) Reporting states that she was jailed for theft, she was also forced to retract her published Science mag article
4&5) Just asking for your reasoning behind supporting her.

 

[Circa]

Ok

1) You like that she isnt seen as a medical practitioner?
2) Cancer institute, but yeah similar idea
3) Reporting states that she was jailed for theft, she was also forced to retract her published Science mag article
4&5) Just asking for your reasoning behind supporting her.

Your answering questions I didn't ask. That's ok.


I'll only comment on your 4/5 )'\

What do you want me to say? It's not that complicated...
she was told to keep silent for 4 or 5 years over her studies.. and then persecuted because she wanted to help others learn more..

....I appreciate anyone who understands the way and simple what' that they know... and the will or enlightened generation our grandchildren can figure out....

 

[TorontoGold]

Your answering questions I didn't ask. That's ok.


I'll only comment on your 4/5 )'\

What do you want me to say? It's not that complicated...
she was told to keep silent for 4 or 5 years over her studies.. and then persecuted because she wanted to help others learn more..

....I appreciate anyone who understands the way and simple what' that they know... and the will or enlightened generation our grandchildren can figure out....

Her one major accomplishment was retracted and taken out of Science magazine. Her subsequent attempts at reproducing her study, all failed. The whole point of science is that your able to reproduce the results after vigorous peer review. What was trying to help others know? Her research has been debunked by all other scientists.

You're hesitant to trust vaccines because they havent been studied long enough, yet believe a woman who has been caught lying about her work. Doesnt add up.

 

[Circa]

Her one major accomplishment was retracted and taken out of Science magazine. Her subsequent attempts at reproducing her study, all failed. The whole point of science is that your able to reproduce the results after vigorous peer review. What was trying to help others know? Her research has been debunked by all other scientists.

You're hesitant to trust vaccines because they havent been studied long enough, yet believe a woman who has been caught lying about her work. Doesnt add up.

I know It sounds conspiratorial. It's not that complicated. If you read her book, which was published before all this Covid 19 was a thought, then you can go along with the powers that be all ya want.
You won't deter me from seeing It as It is. Tell me what she has to gain from telling her story? If you say money.. Then tell me what the government has to lose with her story?

Confidence in the sheep?


BTW, she was jailed for "supposedly stealing" her own research. HER Research!

 

[Circa]

I agree. Just go ask the people of Nagasaki, and Hiroshima.

I guess I should have elaborated on this comment... Caught a lil flack....
Scientists warned Truman and those In power like General Leslie Groves about the dangers of using a weapon that they helped create.... Scientists usually have the intelligence to understand but they lack the power to change things.

 

[TorontoGold]

I know It sounds conspiratorial. It's not that complicated. If you read her book, which was published before all this Covid 19 was a thought, then you can go along with the powers that be all ya want.
You won't deter me from seeing It as It is. Tell me what she has to gain from telling her story? If you say money.. Then tell me what the government has to lose with her story?

Confidence in the sheep?


BTW, she was jailed for "supposedly stealing" her own research. HER Research!

The government has an incentive to shut this kind of stuff down, because it takes advantage of the intellectually vulnerable who think a lady batting 0.000 somehow cracked the code on a virus.

Likely in her contract, any sort of research she did was property of the company. Just like any job where you create something while at work, its property of the company.

 

[Legacy]

The ICU RN with other RNs that stood in silent counterprotesting those who protested in advocated opening of businesses on April 24th worked at Banner Health ICU, Phoenix.

She describes some of those statements she received:

"It was heated, people were very fired up about what they had to say. A lot of the top comments we got were about us being fake nurses, there was a huge majority of them that still believe this virus is fake, that it's a hoax and not real at all. They were convinced that we're fake nurses and that's why we weren't talking."

A video of that --https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/04/23/nurses-counterprotest-reopen-arizona-orig-jk.cnn

Gov Ducey's stay at home order. expired on April 30. Banner Health is now hiring 1,000 nurses, therapists, doctors for Arizona COVID-19 crisis as Arizona is overwhelmed by this hoax.

Six hundred out-of-state nurses are headed to Arizona to help.

 

[Irishize]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AZ corona update:<br>The positive % today was 20.78% this is up from yesterday (17.99%) and up from the same day last week (16.86%).<br>The # of people currently hospitalized with covid in AZ decline yet again today, to drop to lowest level in a month. A sign AZ may be past peak.... <a href="https://t.co/QLonkCscuv">pic.twitter.com/QLonkCscuv</a></p>— Alicia Smith (@Alicia_Smith19) <a href="https://twitter.com/Alicia_Smith19/status/1287407594903080961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[stpeteirish]

Miami Marlins just called off their home opener tonite in Miami due to numerous positive COVID tests after their games in Philly. 14 players and 2 coaches is what I saw (so far). They have not left Phila.

No word yet on the Phillies and how many of them have tested positive.

First weekend of baseball, doesn't look good. Footbal to me looks far more dangerous than baseball re spreading the virus. Not looking promising fellas.

 

[dublinirish]

Miami Marlins just called off their home opener tonite in Miami due to numerous positive COVID tests after their games in Philly. 14 players and 2 coaches is what I saw (so far). They have not left Phila.

No word yet on the Phillies and how many of them have tested positive.

First weekend of baseball, doesn't look good. Footbal to me looks far more dangerous than baseball re spreading the virus. Not looking promising fellas.

No problems with running leagues outside of bubbles in other countries (EPL in England etc). At some point players/coaches have to take personal responsibility

 

[Irishize]

Miami Marlins just called off their home opener tonite in Miami due to numerous positive COVID tests after their games in Philly. 14 players and 2 coaches is what I saw (so far). They have not left Phila.

No word yet on the Phillies and how many of them have tested positive.

First weekend of baseball, doesn't look good. Footbal to me looks far more dangerous than baseball re spreading the virus. Not looking promising fellas.

No it’s not. They need to pull the plug on college sports for the remainder of the year. I know they don’t want to lose that revenue but the rest of the country has had to deal w/ lost revenue, lost wages, lost jobs, lost lives. Shut it down now.

 

[arahop]

No it’s not. They need to pull the plug on college sports for the remainder of the year. I know they don’t want to lose that revenue but the rest of the country has had to deal w/ lost revenue, lost wages, lost jobs, lost lives. Shut it down now.

I just don't see college football happening this year. I'm hoping for the best. I think he NFL will give it a go and bubble up like the NBA. Time will tell

 

[notredomer23]

No problems with running leagues outside of bubbles in other countries (EPL in England etc). At some point players/coaches have to take personal responsibility

I could be wrong but wasn't each league putting each team into their own bubble? Like you couldn't leave the hotel besides to go to the training ground or to travel to the stadium you are playing at. I know a German manager was suspended for getting tooth paste.

 

[stpeteirish]

No problems with running leagues outside of bubbles in other countries (EPL in England etc). At some point players/coaches have to take personal responsibility

I guess we'll find out in a few days if the Marlins are an aberration or the canary in the coal mine.

They are an exceptionally young team with no realistic chance to contend so maybe they just went out to the clubs when they were in Atlanta. Other teams might be more disciplined..we'll see soon enough.

 

[dublinirish]

I could be wrong but wasn't each league putting each team into their own bubble? Like you couldn't leave the hotel besides to go to the training ground or to travel to the stadium you are playing at. I know a German manager was suspended for getting tooth paste.

in Germany for the first two weeks yes but then they were let go back to their homes/families.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

No it’s not. They need to pull the plug on college sports for the remainder of the year. I know they don’t want to lose that revenue but the rest of the country has had to deal w/ lost revenue, lost wages, lost jobs, lost lives. Shut it down now.

Too early/ no need to shut it down for football right now. Schools won't miss volleyball and soccer but football needs to happen, even if that means pushing the season back a few weeks to see how schools handle thousands of kids being on campus.

 

[dublinirish]

Too early/ no need to shut it down for football right now. Schools won't miss volleyball and soccer but football needs to happen, even if that means pushing the season back a few weeks to see how schools handle thousands of kids being on campus.

lol ehhh its not gonna go well

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm just gonna say it, I blame the Phillies too for no reason at all. Just don't let them or the Marlins play any other games for the rest of MLB's existence. That is the just punishment for trying to destroy the league with a virus

 

[notredomer23]

Too early/ no need to shut it down for football right now. Schools won't miss volleyball and soccer but football needs to happen, even if that means pushing the season back a few weeks to see how schools handle thousands of kids being on campus.

College football will be in the spring. Just accept it. That way if we somehow have a season this Fall it'll be even sweeter.

 

[dublinirish]

College football will be in the spring. Just accept it. That way if we somehow have a season this Fall it'll be even sweeter.

I don't see any way football will go ahead in spring either the way things are going. Maybe you try play it in summer when all students are off campus or something

 

[Irish#1]

College football will be in the spring. Just accept it. That way if we somehow have a season this Fall it'll be even sweeter.

There's no way this happens. Too many variables that directly impact the 2021 season.

 

[fightingirish26]

Too early/ no need to shut it down for football right now. Schools won't miss volleyball and soccer but football needs to happen, even if that means pushing the season back a few weeks to see how schools handle thousands of kids being on campus.

football does not need to happen

 

[dublinirish]

football does not need to happen

 

[notredomer23]

There's no way this happens. Too many variables that directly impact the 2021 season.

I don't think it really happens either but at least it gives me something to look forward to before the inevitable let down.

 

[stpeteirish]

I don't think it really happens either but at least it gives me something to look forward to before the inevitable let down.

I'm just wondering if Shawn Crawford can get a 7th year.

 

[Irishize]

There's no way this happens. Too many variables that directly impact the 2021 season.

Agreed. They have to cancel it or they’ll be accused of not caring about the health/welfare of their student-athletes. Just be done with it so we can move on.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

College football will be in the spring. Just accept it. That way if we somehow have a season this Fall it'll be even sweeter.

Hell no. I'm fine with the Ivy League going to the spring, but the Power 5 playing in spring would be a mess.

If we're not playing in the fall due to "health and safety of the student athletes", playing two full seasons within 8 months sounds counterproductive. And that's aside from a number of players who will opt out. And then early enrollees in Janaury. And eligibility issues.

Hard pass. In that case I'll just become a Penn fan for Spring of 21 since I'm close to Philly.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm just wondering if Shawn Crawford can get a 7th year.

Is Tee Shepard using this time to become eligible??