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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last night EMS in New York took 6,406 medical 911 calls, the highest volume ever, surpassing 9/11/01.</p>— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) <a href="https://twitter.com/michaelbd/status/1243197914840694786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 23,000 deaths from flu, 38 million flu illnesses and 390,000 hospitalizations.

This is in the United States alone.
 

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The amount of non-confirmed cases is impossible to know and will just take time for better estimates - every doomsday I see assumes confirmed cases are the only cases. The fact so many ran with such bad statistics is beyond pathetic - I mean it isn't that complex of a concept and the skew in data produced is huge.

Agreed 100%. The Imperial College study is getting a lot of criticism now. And the COVID-19 ACT NOW group has been exposed as being fear mongering partisans. Never let a good crises go to waste, right?

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/2...nicking-officials-into-ill-advised-lockdowns/

At least Ferguson from Imperial College (who is advising UK Parliament) adjusted his projections. Initially, his study projected 500K deaths in the UK & 2M deaths in the US. Now he is saying likely deaths in UK could be 20K or lower.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/
 
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Indy 500 has been postponed until 8/23. What the heck are we going to do now on Memorial Day weekend?
 

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  • The reports are that the truckers are getting supplies to the stores.
  • People are stocking the shelves all night and letting old people shop first.
  • Carnival Cruise line told Trump “We can match those big Navy Hospital ships with some fully staffed cruise ships”
  • GM said hold our cars and watch this; we can make those ventilators where we were making cars starting next week.
  • Women and children are making homemade masks and handing out snacks to truckers.
  • Restaurants and schools said, We’ve got kitchens and staff; we can feed kids.”
  • Churches are holding on-line services and taking care of their members and community.
  • NBA basketball players said, “Hold our basketballs while we write checks to pay the arena staff.”
  • Construction companies said, “Here are some masks for the medical staff and doctors”.
  • Breweries are making sanitizer out of the left-over ingredients.
  • We thought we couldn’t live without Baseball, NASCAR, NBA or going to the beach, restaurants or a bar. Instead, we’re trying to keep those businesses open by ordering take-out.
You’ve got two Democrat Governors getting told “We will make it happen” by a Republican President who has fought with them for three and half years. While the media keeps repeating itself, “We are a nation divided.”

What communist China didn't count on was America saying "Hey, sit back and watch this."

I think a Japanese Admiral in the middle of the Pacific said it best in 1941, "I think we have awakened a sleeping giant."

Give us a few more weeks (maybe months) and we will be doing much better! And stop listening to the hysterical media!!

Sharing this from another FB friend. We have wonderful country and an amazing God.

I know we will be ok

#unitedwestand

Fabulous post, thanks.
 
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  • The reports are that the truckers are getting supplies to the stores.
  • People are stocking the shelves all night and letting old people shop first.
  • Carnival Cruise line told Trump “We can match those big Navy Hospital ships with some fully staffed cruise ships”
  • GM said hold our cars and watch this; we can make those ventilators where we were making cars starting next week.
  • Women and children are making homemade masks and handing out snacks to truckers.
  • Restaurants and schools said, We’ve got kitchens and staff; we can feed kids.”
  • Churches are holding on-line services and taking care of their members and community.
  • NBA basketball players said, “Hold our basketballs while we write checks to pay the arena staff.”
  • Construction companies said, “Here are some masks for the medical staff and doctors”.
  • Breweries are making sanitizer out of the left-over ingredients.
  • We thought we couldn’t live without Baseball, NASCAR, NBA or going to the beach, restaurants or a bar. Instead, we’re trying to keep those businesses open by ordering take-out.
You’ve got two Democrat Governors getting told “We will make it happen” by a Republican President who has fought with them for three and half years. While the media keeps repeating itself, “We are a nation divided.”

What communist China didn't count on was America saying "Hey, sit back and watch this."

I think a Japanese Admiral in the middle of the Pacific said it best in 1941, "I think we have awakened a sleeping giant."

Give us a few more weeks (maybe months) and we will be doing much better! And stop listening to the hysterical media!!

Sharing this from another FB friend. We have wonderful country and an amazing God.

I know we will be ok

#unitedwestand

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Originally Posted by Old Man Mike View Post
I received this statement from a close friend who knows this MD researcher. The researcher is the head of the infectious disease department at the U of M, one of the country's leading research labs on these matters. In my opinion, his opinions are worth passing along.



Dear friends,

In these unprecedented and eerie times I felt the need to send an email with my thoughts and recommendations. Doing so has helped me organize my thoughts and outline a plan forward for myself and my family. Feel free to forward this email to others, or ignore it if you must (I prefer that you don’t do the latter).



To remind folks, I am an infectious diseases specialist and my entire career has been spent in infection prevention. A good chunk of time has been spent on pandemic preparation and response.



So here it goes. Some take home messages and recommendations:

1) This is the real deal. A bona fide serious pandemic. The media is not overreacting.

2) Anthony (Tony) Fauci speaks the truth and has tons of experience – trust his opinions and recommendations

3) This is an unprecedented pandemic in our lifetimes – H1N1 in 2009 was a pandemic but illness was much milder and we had a vaccine and proven treatments and it was somewhat of a known entity being an influenza variant.

4) Practice social distancing – avoid all public places and interactions with others outside of your household except for things like getting food and pharmacy visits (and let me know if you find a good toilet paper source J). This is especially important for older adults and those with serious underlying illnesses – and for those living with or having contact with these high risk people.

5) Walking or running and walking your dog outside is fine – unless your region or area has specific restrictions that don’t allow this. But keep your distance from others except your family/household members

6) Your kids and family members should all practice social distancing. My kids are not seeing friends or socializing outside the house.

7) Remember, if younger people (like your kids) get infected, they will likely become mildly ill or be asymptomatic (although they also can get really sick) – but even if mildly ill or asymptomatic, they can pass the virus on easily to household members and high risk people like older adults (ex grandparents) and people with severe underlying diseases (like those with lung disease and heart disease and immuno-compromised individuals). In high risk people, infection often results in severe illness or death.

8) I anticipate this extreme level of response/social distancing to last likely at least 4-12 more weeks, but I really don’t know – it’s just a guess. The actual outbreak and responses to the outbreak will last much longer, but this extreme phase of containment effort and social distancing will, in my estimation, last a few months.

9) As my fellow ID colleague and close friend John Engemann said, “You will be lucky in a few months if you don’t know someone who dies from COVID-19.”

10) So be a good citizen, practice social distancing, wash your hands a lot (alcohol sanitizer is a good alternative) and have your family do the same. And try to not to drive your family members crazy (or let them drive you crazy) - the house starts to feel small really quickly : )

So be safe, stay home and be a good citizen and spend tons of quality time with your family : )


End of his e-mail.

It is my belief that the virtual lockdown recommendations will last until we get a good test kit well distributed, and a vaccine.

Thanks for passing this along, Mike. The clinical implications of COVID-19 from him, Oahu, SouthSideChi, PerthDomer and others as well as those from Fauci, the Surgeon General, the CDC, etc. recognize the dangers of this pathogen.

This is "the real deal", a "bone fide pandemic", etc. Even with the mitigation measures clinicians emphasize, the CDC's daily Morbidity and Mortality report indicates what the Surgeon General expects - "This week it's going to get bad."

Link to the CDC's "Cases in the U.S." and their Bar graph under "Cumulative total number of COVID-19 cases in the United States by report date, January 12, 2020, to March 25, 2020, at 4pm ET (n=68,440)*

As your infectious disease friend says, COVID 19 is an "unprecedented pandemic in our lifetime" and may last another 12 weeks.
 
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Dyson making 15000 ventilators in only a couple weeks.

https://www.ft.com/content/4cc667f2-6ee2-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

If one could ever love a household appliance, my two Dyson vacs would get V-day cards.. Best appliance ever. Very cool they are jumping into this. Wouldn't doubt if it became a mainstay high margin product for them long term.

Meh... I listened to a Dyson Cult Convention here years back and was like HellYA!

366 days later after not much use, battery died. $125 for a new battery. Sits there and watches my two Shark corded warriors clean like a pack of Polish Grandma's.

When Elon makes one, I'll rejoin the revolution.
 

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Meh... I listened to a Dyson Cult Convention here years back and was like HellYA!

366 days later after not much use, battery died. $125 for a new battery. Sits there and watches my two Shark corded warriors clean like a pack of Polish Grandma's.

When Elon makes one, I'll rejoin the revolution.

I have a Dyson corded vac and it sucks like a high priced hooker should.
 

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From the part of the video of Fauci's interview from his visit to Regis H.S. that is specific to pandemics like this is:
"...the thing that I worry about when I am awake when you're thinking about infectious diseases is a respiratory disease that is easily spread from person to person that has the higher morbidity and mortality. And that's influenza. I mean influenza on a seasonal basis is bad enough. We've had fourteen pandemics that have been recorded well in history. 1918 that killed 50 to 100 million people is a brand new influenza that nobody had a background immunity to. We had another one in 1957, 68 and 2009. My concern is that there always are emerging infections. Infections have emerged before my career, through my lifetime and will emerge long after I'm gone. Ones that are most devastating and spread rapidly respiratory illnesses and that's the reason why we're putting so much effort on trying to get what we call a universal flu vaccine...."

So many similarities to Fauci's concern about a new flu that had no effective vaccine as well as the ID specialist's point of:
7) Remember, if younger people (like your kids) get infected, they will likely become mildly ill or be asymptomatic (although they also can get really sick) – but even if mildly ill or asymptomatic, they can pass the virus on easily to household members and high risk people like older adults (ex grandparents) and people with severe underlying diseases (like those with lung disease and heart disease and immuno-compromised individuals). In high risk people, infection often results in severe illness or death.
 
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Meh... I listened to a Dyson Cult Convention here years back and was like HellYA!

366 days later after not much use, battery died. $125 for a new battery. Sits there and watches my two Shark corded warriors clean like a pack of Polish Grandma's.

When Elon makes one, I'll rejoin the revolution.

I've had my Dyson Stick since they came out, use it several times a week, and battery still going strong. I bought my mother the stick the next year, and hers is still rocking and rolling. The only thing she has replaced is the end cap she stripped (where you take the roller out) by trying to turn it the wrong way with a butter knife. She uses here's daily almost, has 2 heavy shedding cats, and all hardwoods. It's been at least 4-5 years.

I had bought her the big pet Dyson the year before, and she rarely touches it anymore. I've got the medium/large ball one too at my crib on all hardwoods and tile. Never a problem with any of them. My mom has a shark she uses in the basement that's similar to the Dyson stick. She clearly favors the Dyson. She had a large bag-free prior to me buying her the Dyson pet, and it now stays out on the sun porch...

I have a Dyson corded vac and it sucks like a high priced hooker should.

It's a great bang (and suck) for the buck.
 

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Indy 500 has been postponed until 8/23. What the heck are we going to do now on Memorial Day weekend?

I'm supposed to be in Naples for two weeks during that time. Mom week 1 (race week), and then friends joining after race day. I'm close to formally pushing it to later in the year. It was hard to get everyone's schedule to line up, so really sucks to do it all over again. I was looking forward to doing a beach watch lol..
 

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Mom just informed me that a HS buddy of mine has the bug, in the hospital, and not doing well at all. That's now 2 folks in 2 days that I know.
 

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Thanks YJ,

Just re-arranged our Indiana trip for the August 500. Mama's thrilled, she was worried the bug was still gonna be still floating around. This will work out much better than going for the 4th. Really don't like going to Indy for much but the 500, a trip to St Elmo's or Harry & Izzy's and to see my chickie's Mom in Nobletucky... who should be moved into here new place on Morse Res. in Cicero by then.

Get in and out and down to Evansville for family time, though I will miss the Bierstube in Darmstadt. Was gonna drop off a few bags on Brady Allen's porch but someone will have to pick up the slack for me.

Hopefully Coronavirus is in the Rearview mirror by then.
 

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Thanks YJ,

Just re-arranged our Indiana trip for the August 500. Mama's thrilled, she was worried the bug was still gonna be still floating around. This will work out much better than going for the 4th. Really don't like going to Indy for much but the 500, a trip to St Elmo's or Harry & Izzy's and to see my chickie's Mom in Nobletucky... who should be moved into here new place on Morse Res. in Cicero by then.

Get in and out and down to Evansville for family time, though I will miss the Bierstube in Darmstadt. Was gonna drop off a few bags on Brady Allen's porch but someone will have to pick up the slack for me.

Hopefully Coronavirus is in the Rearview mirror by then.

Weather for the 500 is hit or miss so Aug is better IMO if you're making a trip out of it. I've had horrible luck weather wise when it comes to races the last 10 years. Probably why I go less these days, and spend more time on the beach. Don't forget to buy extra cocktail sauce to take home.
 

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Weather for the 500 is hit or miss so Aug is better IMO if you're making a trip out of it. I've had horrible luck weather wise when it comes to races the last 10 years. Probably why I go less these days, and spend more time on the beach. Don't forget to buy extra cocktail sauce to take home.

It's going to be hot as hell at the track in August. One bottle of water per every 6 or 7 beers folks...have to stay hydrated.
 

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Evidently the pace at which the virus is mutating is slow enough that it improves the chances that a vaccine would be successful. Also would allow those that had contracted the coronavirus to be immune for probably a couple of years before the virus would mutate enough.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A thread on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SARSCoV2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SARSCoV2</a> mutations and what they might mean for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> vaccination and immunity, in which I predict it will take the virus a few years to mutate enough to significantly hinder a vaccine. 1/12</p>— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) <a href="https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1242628550563250176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Still get drunk.

Get drunk and screw, like rainy days at the beach/ lake.

The lady and I purchased tickets to Los Angeles (my sister lives there) last night for a combined $230 including trip insurance. We figured book it for July, hopefully this is past us, and if not oh well it's $230.00. It was a steal. Couldn't turn it down.
 

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I dont think people will get it until they are hauling away 1000s of bodies per day in refrigerated semis.
 

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Just put water in your whiskey my friend. Two birds, one cup.

Simple as that, problem solved.

I’ve never been to the Brickyard but have heard many complain about how blazing hot that place gets in late summer. And the 500 will have a shit ton of more fans. I’d recommend wearing a good pair of underwear along with plenty of baby powder.
 

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Hey at least if you kill one of them you won't have to pay their unemployment.

None of my employees are unemployed and those who need time off to care for their children are being paid in full.

Go troll in your moms basement...its not working with me.
 

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Simple as that, problem solved.

I’ve never been to the Brickyard but have heard many complain about how blazing hot that place gets in late summer. And the 500 will have a shit ton of more fans. I’d recommend wearing a good pair of underwear along with plenty of baby powder.

Yup, but for me at least Heat > Rain/Cold.
In HS, seemed like all the 500s had great weather. Then later in life, crap. Maybe I was just happy to be there when I was young and didn't care.

Side note, I was at the Daytona 500 a few years ago. Was in FL on last minute business and extended my stay. It was so freaking cold... Below freezing in the evenings leading up to the race. Didn't bring a winter coat with me on the trip, and ended up buying two ugly over priced D500 blankets and a jacket at the track... .
 

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Thanks YJ,

Just re-arranged our Indiana trip for the August 500. Mama's thrilled, she was worried the bug was still gonna be still floating around. This will work out much better than going for the 4th. Really don't like going to Indy for much but the 500, a trip to St Elmo's or Harry & Izzy's and to see my chickie's Mom in Nobletucky... who should be moved into here new place on Morse Res. in Cicero by then.

Get in and out and down to Evansville for family time, though I will miss the Bierstube in Darmstadt. Was gonna drop off a few bags on Brady Allen's porch but someone will have to pick up the slack for me.

Hopefully Coronavirus is in the Rearview mirror by then.

Hate to tell you, but Harry & Izzy’s is no more.
 

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Simple as that, problem solved.

I’ve never been to the Brickyard but have heard many complain about how blazing hot that place gets in late summer. And the 500 will have a shit ton of more fans. I’d recommend wearing a good pair of underwear along with plenty of baby powder.

I’ve been 4-5 times and it does get hot if you’re not under the canopy on the main stretch. The aluminum bleachers are not your friend.
 
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