NorthDakota
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Very okay with them declaring whenever or doing the hockey route and let them stay in school after drafting them
College Football: End of an Era
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I guess the SCOTUS could take up a case on the NFL's 3 year draft rule. 20 years ago, the NFL beat Clarett on appeal to the 2nd court of appeals and the SCOTUS did not take the appeal. Sotomayor wrote the majority opinion, so that's one vote for the NFL or a recusal.
It's going to be tough to get past that it's collectively bargined.
It's going to be tough to get past that it's collectively bargined.
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That lasted about three seasons...
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That would be a very interesting twist although I cannot see the NFL going for it.
If a player declares, they'd likely have to guarantee the team they're leaving school or drop a few rounds in the draft because the team is taking all the risk. Why would a top player do that? Slot themselves into round three money two years from now when NIL is paying them more.
I remember going through that in some class in law school and the professor coming down on the side of it being pretty dubious
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I’ve enjoyed living in SEC country and hearing all the fans lament the “destruction” of college football. They pine for the good old days where kids had no options and were happy to do their bidding for a McDonald’s bag full of cash. Feels like a rebirth to me. Go Irish!
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Yeah I don't think it would really be great unless you have the top pick and a prospect like Trevor Lawrence is a sophomore and you are dealing with a shitty QB class like the Kenny Pickett year or something.
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Yeah, because only SEC programs clandestinely paid players …
If you enjoy a two-conference system, the death of other conferences (Pac 12 and the ACC, which is currently on hospice), programs “without a home” (See Oregon St, Washington St), teams in conferences that make no sense whatsoever (Cal and Stanford in the Atlantic Coast Conference), free reign, unrestricted transfers, “pay-for-play” players, the death of bowl season, player opt outs, and so forth…then more power to you. The sport is a shell of its former self.
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Sure, Everyone Cheats
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You can go to the NBA when you’re 19. You can go straight to the MLB from high school. Why not football? Everyone said Jeremiah Smith would be the top pick … seems pointless to force him to stick around and play Double A / Triple A football.
I'm definitely not saying if it is or isn't a good opinion because I haven't read too much about it and I only have some, not a lot, of knowledge about antitrust law. I was pointing out that there is an appellate court opinion and a SCOTUS rejection specifically on the 3 year wait. One could easily point at spencer hayward's win from the 70s as a reason the SCOTUS would take it up this time.
I'm not sure how precedent works for a SCOTUS rejecting an appeal, but later taking up a different case/appeal on the exact same issue. Even without knowing that, precedent has been a fluid idea, so I think it's very possible someone takes another crack at it and the SCOTUS takes it up. It's why I mentioned Sotomayor writing the opinion in the carett case. Would the court take a case on which one of its members, in court of appeals, has already wrote an opinion on? If yes, does Sotomayor recuse herself? If she doesn't has anything really changed since clarett that could cause he to change her mind?
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Cuz maybe you'd be squashed like a bug ?
You have to be one year out of hs or 19 for the NBA draft. That rule is just as legally exposed. I think it's much easier to prove that fresh out of hs players can compete in professional basketball w/examples like, Moses, LeBron, Kobe, and Luka. You could also point to guys like Jermaine O'Neal, Jonathan Bender, and Darius Miles as players that initially struggled, but ended up with good basketball careers. It's just the NBA got sick of the bad press because more players weren't ready, than were. Korleone Young immediately comes to mind.
MLB is not a contact sport. I think that matters.
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NBA is a contact sport. MLB is not even a contact sport.
Football is a violent collision sport
Yes Jeremiah Smith and other 0.001% of CFB players could make the jump, most others could not
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Everyone forgot about hockey apparently 😂
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NBA makes you go one year of college and MLB has minor leagues. I think the NFL prefers to use college football as their minor leagues to develop and get a good idea what kind of player they are.
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My grandma used to always said that.
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Unless it’s changed recently, NBA requires one year out of high school. Darius Bazley didn’t go to college and instead signed some contract with New Balance out of high school and then entered the draft the following year.
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Yep. The three years rule is an NFL rule, correct? They like the system as it is.
I’m not a lawyer but lots of industries/companies/jobs set their own rules about training or experience or whatnot before they’ll hire someone. Why can’t the NFL? You do not have a constitutional right to play pro football.