Clausen leaving early??

[WaveDomer]

NDinLA

NDinLA

Your phrase was "dropping like flies." Pretty similar to the flood gates, I would think.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

The one thing that I think is not discussed enough about Clausen is his toughness. Kid is T-O-U-G-H! He took countless sacks, hits, and knock-downs last year and he got up every time. He has already taken a few really good pops this year and he gets up. This guy, to me, is "all day tough" as they say.

Also, I don't understand the "undersized" comments. His listed height is 6'2", but I think he is taller than that. I saw him at a restaurant in Thousand Oaks over the summer. I am over 6'5" and 230lbs and when he walked right by me, he looked pretty darn big to me. Much bigger and thicker than I thought he would look.

I think this kid is going to be awesome. I have already seen him make some passes that are among the best I have seen by just about anyone.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Actually, I mentioned in one of my first posts that he showed grit last year. Does that count as toughness?

Lots of good points made, but I still differ with people that say "look at his stats" or "look at his techniqe" or look how short he is...

The only stat that matters is can he lead a team to victory. Does he come through in clutch situations, or does he get intercepted. Does he get the job done. Period.

Doug Flutie is 5'10". Jim Plunkett, Billy Kilmer, those guys had awful throwing motions. (Watched them in some NFL highlight show a few years ago.) But they got the job done.

This site is not the only place I have heard people whispering that Jimmy may turn pro before his senior year. You can hear that talk "out on the street" already.

Someone made a great point about leaving early. School will be there when a former athlete turns 50 and decides he wants to go back, but the window of oppourtunity to make millions is very small. Grab it while you can.

Don't people go to school so they can get better jobs and thus make more money?

I hope he stays and win two NCs. I think he is that good.

 

[03euroSVT]

why is it hard to believe a player may leave early? Walker left early and I believe he also graduated (not sure exactly on that one).

 

[ARALOU]

My, my, I like Clausen but lets look at the defenses he has "torched". Were any of them in the top 90? I think he has a great future and made great progress, but lets see what he can do against some of the better defenses in the country (USC #5 defense for one) before we re-rank all the great ND qbs.

 

[Irish Rogue]

Way too early for this. It's wise for QB's to stay 4 years to get seasoned to become Pro's, I always thought Ryan stunk at BC until his senior year, same with Carson Palmer, but they seem to have benefited from the 4 year stay.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

My, my, I like Clausen but lets look at the defenses he has "torched". Were any of them in the top 90? I think he has a great future and made great progress, but lets see what he can do against some of the better defenses in the country (USC #5 defense for one) before we re-rank all the great ND qbs.

There goes another statistician. Otherweis, great point.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Way too early for this. It's wise for QB's to stay 4 years to get seasoned to become Pro's, I always thought Ryan stunk at BC until his senior year, same with Carson Palmer, but they seem to have benefited from the 4 year stay.

Great points. But...

It is not too early because this question is already being asked in "the streets." That means a whole bunch of people that watch ND football think he is that good (to include the "haters").

I really hope he becomes an all time great. He has already impressed me more than any ND qb ever. (Mind you, I have studied him on TV more than I have studied any other ND QB.) He needs to keep his ego intact and stay hungry.

My favorite ND qbs, off the top of my head, are Rice and McDougal. Montana is the automatic and not worth mentioning (so, forget that I just mentioned him) because he is so much the obvious choice. Clements and Powlus are right up there too. Clements is before my time, but I have seen videos...

 

[ARALOU]

There goes another statistician. Otherweis, great point.

Well, I actually had to look it up. I was not trying to bash him. I always said he would be a great one especially after watching him in the high school east/west army game. (or whatever it was). He has a strong accurate arm. There are still 11 guys on the field that have to do their thing too. I like this years team. Its a long season. It aint even cold yet.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

There goes another statistician. Otherweis, great point.

Was that spelling intentional?

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Well, I actually had to look it up. I was not trying to bash him. I always said he would be a great one especially after watching him in the high school east/west army game. (or whatever it was). He has a strong accurate arm. There are still 11 guys on the field that have to do their thing too. I like this years team. Its a long season. It aint even cold yet.

Yikes you read fast. I clicked "Submit reply" after I edited and you had already posted an answer.

Anyway.

I know you were not bashing. You were giving a sensible response. I have read all of your posts and you seem to be a poster with massive common sense and decency. Or maybe I was tipsy when I read your posts.

I simply think this guy is that good. 12 years from now, some nerd will find my posts about Jimmy and offer me a pro scouting job. I will refuse, because I plan on dating three 19 year old vivacious females and selling magazines at that time. Until that time, I will continue to post my opinion on a forum with not a single hope for any contact with anything female. Except for the mannequin at Target.

 

[ARALOU]

I will refuse, because I plan on dating three 19 year old vivacious females and selling magazines at that time.


Ah, an aspiring writer/publisher? Or maybe the next Hef? Anyway, thanks for reply.
One thing about Irish footbal is that there are many great quarterbacks to discuss. Especially if you want to go back to the Lamonica and Hanratty days. Remember those guys? How many Notre Dame quarterbacks have been in Super Bowls? Or better yet, How many Super Bowls have had Notre Dame players period?

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

The next Hef wannabee or at least appreciator. Someone needs to enable perverts.

JUST A JOKE FOLKS. CALM DOWN.

I would guess most Super Bowl winners have had an ND grad on the team. And the announcers seem to mention that fact.

Who are your favorite ND QBs? And why?

Go for it.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Was that spelling intentional?

Yep. You noticed? Yesssssss. I am not alone! Answer this: Was it a pun or a double entendre?

So what is the gameplan for losers who come together? ND was a loser last year that had a bunch of losers (3 and something?) and seem to be coming together.

ND du Lac got nothing else to do but win. They have shown the world how to lose and stay together.

OK. I am a bit tipsy on a Friday night, and dreading not finding the game on TV tomorrow.

 

[ARALOU]

Thats a tough one sort of. The obvious choices would be Montana, Rice, Powlus, Mirer, McDougal, just to name a few of the more recent ones. I enjoyed watching them all. I barely remember Theisman at Notre Dame. I recall Lamonica and Hanratty from their NFL years but not their Irish years. I guess you have to have a special appreciation of the ones on National Championship teams. Like Montana, Rice, Clements. I have researched most of the greats and can list them but alot of them I did not see first hand. I used to watch the replay of Irish football games every sunday morning in the early seventies. (attended Mass according to air time of game). I go back as far as Clements for memory. The Penn St. snow game with Mirer was one of my favorites. 73 Sugar Bowl with Clements. Montana and the Cotton Bowl. Another favorite moment was Rocket smoking Tennessee on a punt return in Knoxville to provide the winning margin. Many moments I enjoyed. Waters gashing Tennessee. The Bus blasting thru the linebacker Bates of A&M in the Cotton Bowl right on the goal line.

 

[NDMontana]

I can see your points. I still think he's excellent at escaping the pressure, but that might be my Irish eyes talking. I also agree with Steve M. that he needs to step UP in the pocket and
not sideways. I forgot to mention that. He's still very young, with only a handful of starts under his belt. The specialness is there (God I hope he shows it this weekend!!!). I'll be here to eat crow if I'm wrong...

You'll be starving, in all likelihood, because I don't think you'll have to eat crow. I think he'll have a big game this weekend. The rest of the team is starting to share the confidence that he's always had in himself and the program.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

What did the winners have in common?

 

[NDMontana]

why is it hard to believe a player may leave early? Walker left early and I believe he also graduated (not sure exactly on that one).

I wish he would have taken the other Walkers with him.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Thats a tough one sort of. The obvious choices would be Montana, Rice, Powlus, Mirer, McDougal, just to name a few of the more recent ones. I enjoyed watching them all. I barely remember Theisman at Notre Dame. I recall Lamonica and Hanratty from their NFL years but not their Irish years. I guess you have to have a special appreciation of the ones on National Championship teams. Like Montana, Rice, Clements. I have researched most of the greats and can list them but alot of them I did not see first hand. I used to watch the replay of Irish football games every sunday morning in the early seventies. (attended Mass according to air time of game). I go back as far as Clements for memory. The Penn St. snow game with Mirer was one of my favorites. 73 Sugar Bowl with Clements. Montana and the Cotton Bowl. Another favorite moment was Rocket smoking Tennessee on a punt return in Knoxville to provide the winning margin. Many moments I enjoyed. Waters gashing Tennessee. The Bus blasting thru the linebacker Bates of A&M in the Cotton Bowl right on the goal line.

What did the winners have in common?

This site is starting to confuse me. I click submit and I see stuff submitted before and after ne, I am so confused.

 

[NDMontana]

Yikes you read fast. I clicked "Submit reply" after I edited and you had already posted an answer.

Anyway.

I know you were not bashing. You were giving a sensible response. I have read all of your posts and you seem to be a poster with massive common sense and decency. Or maybe I was tipsy when I read your posts.

I simply think this guy is that good. 12 years from now, some nerd will find my posts about Jimmy and offer me a pro scouting job. I will refuse, because I plan on dating three 19 year old vivacious females and selling magazines at that time. Until that time, I will continue to post my opinion on a forum with not a single hope for any contact with anything female. Except for the mannequin at Target.

NFL scouts want realistic assessment with statistics included, not opinion that is blinded by devotion.

As far as the Target mannequin....that's the most realistic thing I've ever seen you post.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

NFL scouts want realistic assessment with statistics included, not opinion that is blinded by devotion.

As far as the Target mannequin....that's the most realistic thing I've ever seen you post.

Go away dude. You bore me.

 

[NDMontana]

Go away dude. You bore me.

And you are about to piss me off.

Stay here dude. You make me laugh.

What are you an interent tough guy....you going to jump through your screen.

Are you 10 years old?

 

[NDMontana]

Go away dude. You bore me.

You guys are crying for your rights. 3 states support you. I will listen. Just don't try to be a pain in my asshole. I will swipe you away kinda quickly.

Being coherent is always a huge plus.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Stay here dude. You make me laugh.

k

 

[NDMontana]

Do you know the psychological term "projection?"

You scream it out dude. Or dudess. You been suckin on me since I signed up. It was fun at first. Move on to your next sugardaddy, lil girl.

You have 42 more posts than I do and my rep is way higher so I suppose that my thoughts are more highly thought of than yours. Why than would I blame you for my unwanted thoughts?

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

You have 42 more posts than I do and my rep is way higher so I suppose that my thoughts are more highly thought of than yours. Why than would I blame you for my unwanted thoughts?

LOL buddy. Let's let it rip.

 

[SteveM]

Who Be Hatin'

Who Be Hatin'

Great points. But...

It is not too early because this question is already being asked in "the streets." That means a whole bunch of people that watch ND football think he is that good (to include the "haters").

...

NDoomer,

You're the one "hating" on anyone who does not have same assessment of Clausen that you do.

Look, this is an ND site. And when I (we) "talk" ND we wear an ND hat. But when I (we) "talk" Pro, the ND hat comes off because a Pro scout doesn't wear one. The assessment is clinical not emotional. We're just talking from a different perspective.

You can hype Jimmy up in your mind all you want. But just don't knock the other guys for not being active participants in you day dreams when we talk Pro.

And frankly, calling us "haters' for making honest assessments about a kid we actually like on a team we love is an insult.

Versteh?

SteveM

 

[Jason Pham]

Cut the unnecessary banter out.

 

[NDMontana]

NDoomer,

You're the one "hating" on anyone who does not have same assessment of Clausen that you do.

Look, this is an ND site. And when I (we) "talk" ND we wear an ND hat. But when I (we) "talk" Pro, the ND hat comes off because a Pro scout doesn't wear one. The assessment is clinical not emotional. We're just talking from a different perspective.

You can hype Jimmy up in your mind all you want. But just don't knock the other guys for not being active participants in you day dreams when we talk Pro.

And frankly, calling us "haters' for making honest assessments about a kid we actually like on a team we love is an insult.

Versteh?

SteveM

Thank You!!

 

[ACamp1900]

Lets get through his Sophomore year. Way early to be talking early entry for the draft. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

no shit... I learned my leason when we all talked about having five first round draft picks (Quinn, Walker, Shark, Zib, Rhema) after CW's first season when they were still a ways away from even going pro