Chicago White Sox... The thread.

[Southside Sully]

Should see the final staff hirings here shortly. I keep hearing that Jose Qquendo is going to be involved somehow.

I really like the pitching coach hire. We'll see how the rest pans out.

Prob a bench or 1B.. Like to see the kid from AA get called up for base coach or bench coach as well.. Let him learn the ropes from TLR

 

[Crazy Balki]

For all the animosity the TLR hire received (and justified mind you), I was very surprised at the Katz hiring.

Most expected TLR to fill the staff with "his" guys and former players. Katz was very...not that. So that's good. Loved that hire.

Oquendo would fall more in line with the former, but I'm fine with a few of those.

I'm also really interested in what they're gonna do with Jirschele. If they keep him in AA or move him to the major league slot.

All in all, I have a feeling we'll like the way the coaching staff fleshes out. It's all on TLR to not deep-six the chemistry.

 

[Rogue219]

White Sox hire Miguel Cairo as bench coach.

He was player development with Yankees. I like this hire.

 

[Southside Sully]

White Sox hire Miguel Cairo as bench coach.

He was player development with Yankees. I like this hire.

I do too. I still want to see them get Justin Jirschele involved somehow.

 

[Rogue219]

I think this coaching staff rounded out nicely in the end. Maybe I'm wrong.

Rodon and Mazara are out.

 

[BobbyMac]

Hopefully 2020 Engel reports to Glendale. on the flip side, I have zero doubt Mazara has huge years ahead of him. But this was the right thing to do because Engel earned it.

 

[Rogue219]

Hopefully 2020 Engel reports to Glendale. on the flip side, I have zero doubt Mazara has huge years ahead of him. But this was the right thing to do because Engel earned it.

Mazara is 25 and has a career wOBA of .318. He is what he is at this point, in all likelihood.

This lineup is potent 1-7, and Robert should improve when it comes to his OBP. If they have Garcia in LF batting 8th and Engel in RF batting 9th, it won't be good enough for a 162 game season.

DH Eloy and find a couple of corner outfielders either by trade or free agency and this team is an absolute monster.

What will they do with the Vaughn kid? There are not enough at bats if Eloy and Abreu are healthy.

 

[pumpdog20]

Any thoughts on taking Schwarber?

 

[ozzman]

Len kasper leaving Cubs tv to take Sox radio play by play 😂

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[Rogue219]

Any thoughts on taking Schwarber?

Him in LF with Eloy DH'ing? In that hitter friendly park in Chicago? You could do worse.

Meanwhile, Rodon might make sense for the Cubs. Baseball, man.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

The lack of urgency for them to go out and get a solid starting pitcher is baffling along with DH or RF, I do like the idea of bringing on Swarber to DH because he can play RF if needed he should have better production than anything we have had before and with our lineup should see better pitches.

 

[Southside Sully]

The lack of urgency for them to go out and get a solid starting pitcher is baffling along with DH or RF, I do like the idea of bringing on Swarber to DH because he can play RF if needed he should have better production than anything we have had before and with our lineup should see better pitches.

He can not play RF at all, this is not an accurate take.

 

[Rogue219]

He can not play RF at all, this is not an accurate take.

Correct. 461 games in LF, 4 games in RF. He played first once.

He's either LF or DH at this point. Which is what Eloy is, so you have to determine if the juice is worth the squeeze. Schwarber is a DH and there is probably an AL team who would be happy to have him keep his glove around for interleague games or ememrgencies. For this Sox team, you'd be adding his bat in that park 81 times a year in an already potent lineup that needs a bat in left field and a lefty. He's both. Can you find someone equal or almost as good for less is the question? I think yes.

There is a 1 in 5 chance he's David Ortiz from this point on. I am curious as to why his numbers are not better than they are, especially in this era.

Schwarber could wind up in Tampa pounding the ball out on the cheap.

 

[BobbyMac]

Every Schwarber like slugger that has come to the Sox ends up batting .188. At least Schwarbs is already there.

I'm going to lunch with his college coach next Monday. I'll get the full skinny then.

Wonder how good of a LB he would've been in college?

 

[Rogue219]

Every Schwarber like slugger that has come to the Sox ends up batting .188. At least Schwarbs is already there.

I'm going to lunch with his college coach next Monday. I'll get the full skinny then.

Wonder how good of a LB he would've been in college?

I wouldn't be concerned about his batting average, or anyone else's other than Nick Madrigal's, so much as I would his slugging average. He's been over .500 SLG once in his career. Over 2100 plate appearances and he's a .480 SLG for his career.

He turns 28 in March and his body type doesn't exactly lend itself to age either.

If he's giving you the HR and walks with the strikeouts, you can live with it, but if he's not hitting the HR and not getting on base there's not much point.

I think there are other solutions for them out there, either via trade or free agency. Springer and Ozuna are the two FA that jump out. I have felt for some time that Ozuna would be a great fit for the White Sox. This owner pay up for Springer? Not holding my breath.

 

[Southside Sully]

I wouldn't be concerned about his batting average, or anyone else's other than Nick Madrigal's, so much as I would his slugging average. He's been over .500 SLG once in his career. Over 2100 plate appearances and he's a .480 SLG for his career.

He turns 28 in March and his body type doesn't exactly lend itself to age either.

If he's giving you the HR and walks with the strikeouts, you can live with it, but if he's not hitting the HR and not getting on base there's not much point.

I think there are other solutions for them out there, either via trade or free agency. Springer and Ozuna are the two FA that jump out. I have felt for some time that Ozuna would be a great fit for the White Sox. This owner pay up for Springer? Not holding my breath.

I think we have too many Schwarbers on the team already.. I will give him this, 2019 was best year statistically.. He is besides BA, an above average hitter. I think we have guys in the system who can produce as much as him as a DH.. Yermin, Vaughn, Collins prob not, but never had a full time shot. I would love Springer.

 

[Rogue219]

I'd have no problem having too many guys who can hit HR and walk.

Schwarber, however, isn't doing much of that lately. I'd really end up taking a pass on him if I were Chicago.

 

[Wild Bill]

I'd have no problem having too many guys who can hit HR and walk.

Schwarber, however, isn't doing much of that lately. I'd really end up taking a pass on him if I were Chicago.

I see your point but we have two guys, Eloy and Abreu, that can hit the piss out of the ball and struggle in the field. Vaughn is a six foot tall right handed first baseman so you can probably add him to the list of average fielders that can hit, assuming he's as good as advertised in the majors.

I'd pass and use the money on an elite SP, if that's even an option.

 

[Rogue219]

I see your point but we have two guys, Eloy and Abreu, that can hit the piss out of the ball and struggle in the field. Vaughn is a six foot tall right handed first baseman so you can probably add him to the list of average fielders that can hit, assuming he's as good as advertised in the majors.

I'd pass and use the money on an elite SP, if that's even an option.

Abreu and Vaughn play first base. Not exactly the end of the world if they don't win Gold Gloves over there. Eloy plays left, the one OF position where you can afford a dropoff in defensive metrics. Abreu was the best offensive player on that team, Eloy was third. Tim Anderson was second.

If you have butchers at catcher, short and center you're probably in serious trouble. First and Left are not nearly as consequential defensively, as the two gentlemen you mentioned have proven. Schwarber can't slug over .500 so what's he giving you? At least these guys are providing value in plate appearances.

Keep getting guys who can hit the piss out of the ball if you are able, or when they're not they're walking and getting on if you are able to. You have the utiliy guys on the bench to close out games defensively.

They could use another starter and two corner outfielders. They'd be a force.

 

[ozzman]

Lance Lynn for Dane Dunning and Avery weems. I like Dunning's potential but really wish we had Lynn down the stretch this season. Instantly makes the rotation much improved.

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[Rogue219]

This deal should have been done 5 months ago. If 2021 is all in for the CWS, they're going to need more than Lance Lynn.

It would appear Reynaldo Lopez is going to the bullpen now. Katz should be excited to work with him, though.

Get those corner outfielders and maybe another starter?

 

[ozzman]

This deal should have been done 5 months ago. If 2021 is all in for the CWS, they're going to need more than Lance Lynn.

It would appear Reynaldo Lopez is going to the bullpen now. Katz should be excited to work with him, though.

Get those corner outfielders and maybe another starter?

As you said, I liked this move a lot more in July. At least they got one starter. Now make another move they should've done last year and sign ozuna, although the rumors say joc.

3 of the top 7 in cy young voting in the rotation now. Go out and sign Bauer and make it 4. Really go all in as Jerry's last hurrah. Stop pretending you're a meddling middle market team.

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[Southside Sully]

This deal should have been done 5 months ago. If 2021 is all in for the CWS, they're going to need more than Lance Lynn.

This.. i don't get one year control vs. Dunning and his control.. If you are giving that up, I expect more in return or a sign and trade for at least another year of control.

I do not like the Eaton signing for 7.5m. He was a cancer of the clubhouse before and could really disrupt how cohesive this unit is.

 

[Rogue219]

This.. i don't get one year control vs. Dunning and his control.. If you are giving that up, I expect more in return or a sign and trade for at least another year of control.

I do not like the Eaton signing for 7.5m. He was a cancer of the clubhouse before and could really disrupt how cohesive this unit is.

I am fine with them giving up Dunning. The upside of Vaugh, Kopech, Cease is better. You don't want to trade them away.

The Eaton signing is shit. The guy is a douchebag and had a brutal year. Makes no sense.

 

[Rogue219]

Adam Eaton was on ESPN Radio 1000 in Chicago and hung up on the show's hosts when they asked if he thinks Tony LaRussa could have trouble relating to young players.

The White Sox have literally built a beautiful new home and have just added a safety hazard that could burn the entire house down.

 

[Southside Sully]

Adam Eaton was on ESPN Radio 1000 in Chicago and hung up on the show's hosts when they asked if he thinks Tony LaRussa could have trouble relating to young players.

The White Sox have literally built a beautiful new home and have just added a safety hazard that could burn the entire house down.

Couldn't agree more.. He's a baby.. He used to send DM's to 670 as well

 

[Wild Bill]

Couldn't agree more.. He's a baby.. He used to send DM's to 670 as well

Maybe they plan on trading him for another ace.

 

[Rogue219]

They are signing Eaton because Brantley was too expensive.

Yet they are interested in Liam Hendricks?

There you have it. This franchise is being held back by Jerry Reinsdorf, their chairman. Full stop.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I'm fine with the Eaton Signing to be honest between him and engel they both get on base and have good defense. The offense isn't the problem for the Sox you got to remember the Sox struggled last year with barely any production from DH and Moncada not 100%. I would like to see them go get Hendriks and then sign Jose Quentina to be the 4th or 5th starter. That way you have a pitching staff of Giolito, Lynn, Keuchel, Kopech, Cease and Quentina you also have Lopez who can come out of the bullpen. I think their plan is to start Vaughn off at DH.

 

[BobbyMac]

Found out yesterday there is serious smoke on Schwarber and the Sox but probably the Yankees unless the Sox can make it worthwhile to stay home.