BYU Postgame

[irishff1014]

If they lose to Miami and get left out of the playoff for a second straight year because they went 0-4 in the 4 games they got challenged in I’m going to lose my fucking mind

This is going to happen. Miami is better than BYU

 

[KMac151993]

Nolan James was cooking early. I don't understand why ND moved away from running the ball when they were so dominant early on.

That is the knock on Denbrock. What is our identity? He doesn't scheme he just calls plays and hope some work.

Walton gives you the lead and is fresh and then you just go fully away from him with all the momentum. He has 0 feel for the game but he is a reflection of the program.

Leave no doubt...serious doubt was left. Everyone made fun of Cig with his undaunted well he has a title something Freeman doesn't. Just win.

 

[TracyGraham]

Tonight sucked. At least they were number 1 for thirty minutes.

The way some of you guys are reacting to a top 10 loss on the road is hilarious though. The sky is not falling. They played like shit, and the flukiest spike fumble is literally the difference. Things have to change, especially with the coordinators and how quick they are to implement adjustments. And guess what- Freeman has proven they usually do adjust and regroup once that loss hits. I don’t like that it takes a loss to get the team focused. But I’m not panicking until they have a repeat performance against Miami.

The issue is BYU looked like garbage to TT and unimpressive against other big 12 teams. There is no reason to think BYU all of a sudden became awesome. If the go on to show continued success, maybe this loss will look better one day.

 

[benneboy]

Tonight sucked. At least they were number 1 for thirty minutes.

The way some of you guys are reacting to a top 10 loss on the road is hilarious though. The sky is not falling. They played like shit, and the flukiest spike fumble is literally the difference. Things have to change, especially with the coordinators and how quick they are to implement adjustments. And guess what- Freeman has proven they usually do adjust and regroup once that loss hits. I don’t like that it takes a loss to get the team focused. But I’m not panicking until they have a repeat performance against Miami.

Interesting and I respect you perspective but I actually think the seasons over. Legitimately over as far as national championship hopes

 

[Katzenboyer]

The way some of you guys are reacting to a top 10 loss on the road is hilarious though. The sky is not falling. They played like shit, and the flukiest spike fumble is literally the difference.

It's not, though.

BYU muffed a punt, threw a bad pick, and ran a HORRIBLE fake punt deep in their own territory. Take away those self-owns, and they win this game by 2 scores.

ND had no business being the game late. None. The fact that they blew it doesn't make it a moral victory because they should have never been in that position to begin with.

 

[BrianWalsh]

We deserve every ounce of crap talk we get on social media. Marcus and Denbrock need to eat every bit of it.

Robot Chicken style: strap them in a chair, keep them awake and make them read it all

 

[pumpdog20]

24 would absolutely smoke this team

Because 24 had Riley Leonard

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Indiana or OSU would dog walk BYU

IU has been squeaking by some bad teams this year and OSU is playing a freshman qb now.

 

[WildMan1]

Indiana or OSU would dog walk BYU

Yea I agree.. defensively not pressuring Bear at all & playing a confused zone look is just indefensible.

 

[MPClinton22]

Yeah so confirmed there was a second left and we should've had another play. Nice job Big 12 replay booth.

Everyone was saying Michigan actually lost to WMU so I’m just gonna say this was no contest. It’s a joke that these officials can just fuck up something this important and face no consequences.

We were fucked by officials against A&M egregiously and this is arguably worse.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Because 24 had Riley Leonard

And Love.

 

[US_Highway14]

Yeah so confirmed there was a second left and we should've had another play. Nice job Big 12 replay booth.

Again, doesn't matter because we're not Michigan or a conference team.

 

[Bane]

Miami fucking HATES Notre Dame; they'll play with emotion and fire, and I have no faith ND has anything in the tank to match that because they consistently fail to do so.

I think this is the most disappointing aspect of it all. I really thought Freeman would bring passion and fire to the program but we are still walking around out there like out of town salesmen at a business conference while our opponents are playing with their hair on fire.

Maybe Miami beats us, maybe they don't, but I do know they're gonna play with ill intentions while we're out there doing things The Right Way.

 

[BrianWalsh]

Everyone was saying Michigan actually lost to WMU so I’m just gonna say this was no contest. It’s a joke that these officials can just fuck up something this important and face no consequences.

We were fucked by officials against A&M egregiously and this is arguably worse.

Yeah and Denbrock was going to scheme something up there?

 

[Jeffwantpoppers]

It's not, though.

BYU muffed a punt, threw a bad pick, and ran a HORRIBLE fake punt deep in their own territory. Take away those self-owns, and they win this game by 2 scores.

ND had no business being the game late. None. The fact that they blew it doesn't make it a moral victory because they should have never been in that position to begin with.

Take away the bad overthrow to Faison that’s a touchdown, the fumble spike and… do you hear how stupid your argument sounds?

 

[notredomer23]

The issue is BYU looked like garbage to TT and unimpressive against other big 12 teams. There is no reason to think BYU all of a sudden became awesome. If the go on to show continued success, maybe this loss will look better one day.

I don’t think BYU is awesome, but it’s still a top 10 team (now top 5) on the road. Plenty of very good teams lost to inferior opponents today. It happens. I don’t give them a pass, but until a repeat performance against Miami occurs there’s no reason to jump ship yet

 

[Katzenboyer]

Because 24 had Riley Leonard

Yup. Hope this shuts up all the "Grubb should start in 2027 if Carr goes pro!" talk.

Go get a stone-cold killer in the Portal. The margin of error is simply too small not to. (Another topic for another day, I know).

 

[402puck]

 

[benneboy]

I don’t think BYU is awesome, but it’s still a top 10 team (now top 5) on the road. Plenty of very good teams lost to inferior opponents today. It happens. I don’t give them a pass, but until a repeat performance against Miami occurs there’s no reason to jump ship yet

BYU is not a top 10 caliber team. We made them look like a top 10 team because we are also highly overrated

 

[IrishInOntario]

Everyone was saying Michigan actually lost to WMU so I’m just gonna say this was no contest. It’s a joke that these officials can just fuck up something this important and face no consequences.

We were fucked by officials against A&M egregiously and this is arguably worse.

Anybody with an ounce of competitive spirit doesn't care one lick. ND lost because of their own ineptitude, incompetence and cowardice... The referees just closed the casket after ND dug it's own grave.

 

[Dale]

Last thing I have is a Freeman section. Because this seems like a Freeman down issue. The personnel rotation in big games is UNSERIOUS. And that is mainly a POSITION COACH decision. But the HC and OC and DC certainly play a role. This has been a thing since Freeman took over though. So it falls on him. I’m not talking play Premer type stuff. I’m talking small little subs. Random plays like Loghan Thomas in on a goal line play. Slot fades to James Flanigan. KVA sometimes but not first drive. Graham rotation. Zackery against Toney last year. Hobbs. Pauling/Greathouse stuff. They pile up. Freeman, Seider, Brown, Ash, Partridge, whoever FIGURE IT THE FUCK OUT because these one little plays add up in every single big game. That is how you go 0 - 3 in one score games last two years.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Take away the bad overthrow to Faison that’s a touchdown, the fumble spike and… do you hear how stupid your argument sounds?

Nope. ND was outplayed from start to finish today. BYU tried giving it back in the third quarter.

Did ND leave some plays on the field? Yes. Would that have mattered if BYU didn't try to fart the game away? No.

 

[NDPhilly]

I just can’t get that upset with Denbrock vs Ash when at the end of the day we ended up with 380 yards and left 6+ pts on the field (CJ fumble / spike and last drive). In a vacuum 30pts / 380 yards is a fine output against this defense, especially in a game with limited possessions. We assume this is a top 15 BYU defense and CJ was shitting his pants.

The defense on the other hand just has way too much talent be that incompetent / with guys just running free and us not getting pressure. we also know what many of these guys look like under golden’s defense in 2024. We know that team was less talented than this one, get the results from our 2024 run versus this speak for themselves.

 

[Irish2155]

I was looking forward to lighting this. Tonight isn’t the night, however.

 

[greyhammer90]

If we don’t beat Miami and go 10-2, we’re at a worse point than we were after 2016.

I always think I'm ready to come on here and be irrationally angry after a loss and then I read some of the stupid shit you guys drunkenly post and it sobers me right up

 

[Blazers46]

Tonight sucked. At least they were number 1 for thirty minutes.

The way some of you guys are reacting to a top 10 loss on the road is hilarious though. The sky is not falling. They played like shit, and the flukiest spike fumble is literally the difference. Things have to change, especially with the coordinators and how quick they are to implement adjustments. And guess what- Freeman has proven they usually do adjust and regroup once that loss hits. I don’t like that it takes a loss to get the team focused. But I’m not panicking until they have a repeat performance against Miami.

Context matters. After last year this was NDs time to finally show the world they are wrong but all the build up to validate all the haters.

 

[MacIrish75]

Last thing I have is a Freeman section. Because this seems like a Freeman down issue. The personnel usage in big games is UNSERIOUS. And that is mainly a POSITION COACH decision. But the HC and OC and DC certainly play a role. This has been a thing since Freeman took over though. So it falls on him. Random plays like Loghan Thomas in on a goal line play. Slot fades to James Flanigan. KVA sometimes but not first drive. Graham rotation. Zackery against Toney last year. Hobbs. Pauling/Greathouse stuff. They pile up. Freeman, Seider, Brown, Ash, Partridge, whoever FIGURE IT THE FUCK OUT because these one little plays add up in every single big game.

Hell yes.

 

[MPClinton22]

Yeah and Denbrock was going to scheme something up there?

We’ll never know, and that’s the problem. Denbrock sucked tonight, but it should have been 1st and goal with a second left, and even Denbrock could possibly avoid tripping over his own dick from that down and distance.

 

[lcaps20]

It's not, though.

BYU muffed a punt, threw a bad pick, and ran a HORRIBLE fake punt deep in their own territory. Take away those self-owns, and they win this game by 2 scores.

ND had no business being the game late. None. The fact that they blew it doesn't make it a moral victory because they should have never been in that position to begin with.

CJ missed 3 TD's? What is this revisionist shit you're posting? At least talk about errors on sides

 

[BrianWalsh]

Question: if Carr is fumbling a ball around and intentionally pushes it forward and a defender catches it, is it an interception or fumble recovery?