Breaking down ND/OU

[OUMallen]

One thing's for sure -- OU fans seem have a very, very disproportionate amount of internet access relative to the rest of the nation.

This is like SoonerEnvy today.

Oklahoma is known for being a innovation-forward, technological trendsetter. I think there's no arguing that.

 

[OUMallen]

The funny thing about those highlights of Trey Millard is they came against two defenses that aren't even remotely in the same league as ND. All things the same, ND would never let him rip off the run that Texas did.

Also, he seems to me to be a similarly built runner as Le'Veon Bell from MSU. Strong, bigger runner. Will take/give a hit to gain a few extra yards. I could be completely wrong in this assessment, but I think they're very similar. Either way, how did he do against ND?

Just showing you the goods, my man. Can we wait until the game is played before you refuse to allow Millard to be productive? TIA.

 

[woolybug25]

Oklahoma is known for being a innovation-forward, technological trendsetter. I think there's no arguing that.

And for being the Antique Capitol of the World.

 

[jbaker]

Keep telling yourself that. MSU and Stanford are statistically much better than OU at stopping the run (#12/#4 vs OU's #46). They thought they would be able to stop our running game too.

The problem is you keep trying to compare Stanford and Michigan State to Oklahoma.
Stanford, who lost to Washington. Michigan State, who is .500, lost to Iowa, and let Indiana put up 27 and almost beat them.

Also, you rushed for 122 yards against Michigan State. For 3.6 yards per carry. Against Stanford, you rushed for 150 yards on 3.4 yards per carry. It sounds like both those teams kept your running game in check...

 

[OUMallen]

And for being the Antique Capitol of the World.

Hey, do NOT bash our downtown infrastructure! I'm a patient man, but I will not suffer that.

 

[jbaker]

Have you watched our LB's?

It's clear that you know just as little (if not less) about Oklahoma as we know about Notre Dame.

 

[MPClinton22]

Just showing you the goods, my man. Can we wait until the game is played before you refuse to allow Millard to be productive? TIA.

For sure and I appreciate you helping us ND fans get more familiar with OU and their personnel. Just saying I don't think you can expect Millard to be able to match Eifert's production (as long as Golson finally starts to find Eifert in the passing game). This is not because he isn't a talented player, but because throughout this season our D has shown that it is able to shut down our opponents run game.

Is it more common for Millard to catch passes out of the backfield and get involved in the passing game that way, or is he generally just taking handoffs?

 

[OUMallen]

It's clear that you know just as little (if not less) about Oklahoma as we know about Notre Dame.

This.


We all need to stop being so offended at each other's ignorance of our respective squads. We play like once a decade. Don't be so pissy that we haven't heard of your TE, and we will try not to get pissy that you're unaware that Trey Millard eats glass for breakfast and runs like a rolling ball of butcher knives.

 

[OUMallen]

For sure and I appreciate you helping us ND fans get more familiar with OU and their personnel. Just saying I don't think you can expect Millard to be able to match Eifert's production (as long as Golson finally starts to find Eifert in the passing game). This is not because he isn't a talented player, but because throughout this season our D has shown that it is able to shut down our opponents run game.

Is it more common for Millard to catch passes out of the backfield and get involved in the passing game that way, or is he generally just taking handoffs?

All of the above. We get him the ball however we can other than making him a WR. If you see him in the slot, it's a new/gimmick/trick formation. I can't imagine that would occur.

 

[ickythump1225]

Thats my point, IF Y'all dont have a passing attack and have to rely on the run entirely Your in trouble. I dont know because I havnt watched much ND at all . Y'all could blow us out for all I know , but I doubt it
Like I've said TOP is pretty meaningless , Kansas had the ball something like 10 minutes more than we did last week , What was that score?


If Yall win Ill be back to give ya Props, But until then I'll stick with My prediction of 49 10 OU

You realize that you're predicting Notre Dame to give up 10 more points than they gave up the entire first 5 weeks of the season and only 3 less than we gave up through the first 6 weeks? You say you haven't watched much ND this year and it shows. I'm not saying that the Irish will win big, I'm not even saying we'll win but if we lost it won't be by 39 points.

 

[woolybug25]

The problem is you keep trying to compare Stanford and Michigan State to Oklahoma.
Stanford, who lost to Washington. Michigan State, who is .500, lost to Iowa, and let Indiana put up 27 and almost beat them.

Also, you rushed for 122 yards against Michigan State. For 3.6 yards per carry. Against Stanford, you rushed for 150 yards on 3.4 yards per carry. It sounds like both those teams kept your running game in check...

Stats don't lie, homeboy. They both rank higher than OU in rushing defense and they both play in conferences that run the ball a lot more than the pass happy Big12.

It's clear that you know just as little (if not less) about Oklahoma as we know about Notre Dame.

That's weird since I haven't said one incorrect thing about OU and you guys are saying some of the most retarded things I have heard all season. Btw, I watched 2 OU game live and watched the youtube condensed version of every one of your games so far. How about you?

Hey, do NOT bash our downtown infrastructure! I'm a patient man, but I will not suffer that.

I love antiquing. Not loving antiquing is like not loving Apple Pie.

It's unAmerican...

 

[olevet]

It's clear that you know just as little (if not less) about Oklahoma as we know about Notre Dame.

Let him ramble bro

Ive made my prediction, I'll be back after the game to Take accolades or Give them.

Every Fan base thinks their TEAM is the Greatest. so until after Game Sat I'll prolly just read

 

[ickythump1225]

The problem is you keep trying to compare Stanford and Michigan State to Oklahoma.
Stanford, who lost to Washington. Michigan State, who is .500, lost to Iowa, and let Indiana put up 27 and almost beat them.

Also, you rushed for 122 yards against Michigan State. For 3.6 yards per carry. Against Stanford, you rushed for 150 yards on 3.4 yards per carry. It sounds like both those teams kept your running game in check...

And yet we won those games.

 

[eyeballjr]

For sure and I appreciate you helping us ND fans get more familiar with OU and their personnel. Just saying I don't think you can expect Millard to be able to match Eifert's production (as long as Golson finally starts to find Eifert in the passing game). This is not because he isn't a talented player, but because throughout this season our D has shown that it is able to shut down our opponents run game.

Is it more common for Millard to catch passes out of the backfield and get involved in the passing game that way, or is he generally just taking handoffs?

Millard will hurt you the most when he sneaks out of the back field. He is an excellent blocker, with good hands, great balance, and some speed. He will take a few hand offs and is one of the "BELLDOZERS" main blockers.

 

[jbaker]

You realize that you're predicting Notre Dame to give up 10 more points than they gave up the entire first 5 weeks of the season and only 3 less than we gave up through the first 6 weeks? You say you haven't watched much ND this year and it shows. I'm not saying that the Irish will win big, I'm not even saying we'll win but if we lost it won't be by 39 points.

My guess is ND gives up around 30 and scores around 20.
You certainly haven't seen an offense like ours, but then again, our OC and QB have been known to randomly crap the bed every once in a while (though generally that doesn't happen in big games). So a 21-16 type of ND win wouldn't exactly shock me.

 

[olevet]

You realize that you're predicting Notre Dame to give up 10 more points than they gave up the entire first 5 weeks of the season and only 3 less than we gave up through the first 6 weeks? You say you haven't watched much ND this year and it shows. I'm not saying that the Irish will win big, I'm not even saying we'll win but if we lost it won't be by 39 points.

We'll see.

 

[jbaker]

That's weird since I haven't said one incorrect thing about OU and you guys are saying some of the most retarded things I have heard all season. Btw, I watched 2 OU game live and watched the youtube condensed version of every one of your games so far. How about you?

I've watched a good portion of most ND games, just because of your TV contract.
If you've watched that much OU and don't know what kind of effect Millard can have on the game, you're not watching very closely. He's the best player on our offense.

 

[eyeballjr]

Millard has 200 yards receiving and a little over 100 yards rushing. Pretty close to your TE's total yardage.

 

[woolybug25]

I've watched a good portion of most ND games, just because of your TV contract.
If you've watched that much OU and don't know what kind of effect Millard can have on the game, you're not watching very closely. He's the best player on our offense.

Where did I say that he was a bad player? I'm just not going to compare a 6'2" fullback to a 6'6" all-american TE. I would compare Landry Jones to Eifert either, but i'm not calling him a bad player. If you think that they play the same game and are used the same then you obviously weren't paying attention when you watched our games.

 

[woolybug25]

Millard has 200 yards receiving and a little over 100 yards rushing. Pretty close to your TE's total yardage.

Again, they are used completely different. They play different positions.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

The problem is you keep trying to compare Stanford and Michigan State to Oklahoma.
Stanford, who lost to Washington. Michigan State, who is .500, lost to Iowa, and let Indiana put up 27 and almost beat them.

Also, you rushed for 122 yards against Michigan State. For 3.6 yards per carry. Against Stanford, you rushed for 150 yards on 3.4 yards per carry. It sounds like both those teams kept your running game in check...

They lost the games not because of their run defense. It was their offenses inability to make plays and score, and at times weak secondary

 

[woolybug25]

We'll see.

Great insight. Thanks for the great football talk.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

Woolybug25 before you corrected what I thought of as the gamneplan with your own opinion and you honestly have it spot on. If ND wins this game it will because our running game was very successful, which controlled the clock and prevented OU's offense from gettign into a groove on offense. I also think that our pass rush getting in Jones face will be a huge determining factor as well. Im calling a huge GAIII performance

 

[eyeballjr]

Where did I say that he was a bad player? I'm just not going to compare a 6'2" fullback to a 6'6" all-american TE. I would compare Landry Jones to Eifert either, but i'm not calling him a bad player. If you think that they play the same game and are used the same then you obviously weren't paying attention when you watched our games.

They are used in the same fashion, lined up a little different. Both are very solid blockers, both have good hands, Millard has good vision when he does take a hand off, and makes people miss. I think they are similar enough to make a comparisson. Height wise, no, but style wise they are.

 

[phork]

Let him ramble bro

Ive made my prediction, I'll be back after the game to Take accolades or Give them.

Every Fan base thinks their TEAM is the Greatest. so until after Game Sat I'll prolly just read

Let me introduce you to Mr. Miami.

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Then after the game.

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Learn some manners son.

 

[OUMallen]

If you're comparing OU to scUM; you don't have the credentials to post on any NCAAF messageboard. Just sayin'. #sorrynotsorry

 

[TheSunIsRising]

I was calling OU fans calling for a 40-point blowout "idiot-trolls". I did call you "man" though. And then I said there's no way OU by 40 happens.

Theoretically, I can't really be on your side any more than I currently am.

If Yall win Ill be back to give ya Props, But until then I'll stick with My prediction of 49 10 OU

OUMallen, I'd like to introduce you to olevet, or as you like to call him "idiot-troll". Please make sure he gets home safely.

While many of the info exchanges have been enlightening, wonder what would be said to us Irish fans if we showed up on your boards predicting a 6+ TD win over the Sooners.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Overall, fantastic posting from both sides. I don't have much more for input other than what's already been said. So I'll leave my two cents at this: Cheers to a good, injury free game. Best of luck. Go Irish!

 

[Black Irish]

If you're comparing OU to scUM; you don't have the credentials to post on any NCAAF messageboard. Just sayin'. #sorrynotsorry

Shutting down UM's QB=Notre Dame victory. Shutting down OU's QB=Notre Dame victory. My broad generalization to counter your broad generalization.

 

[jbaker]

They lost the games not because of their run defense. It was their offenses inability to make plays and score, and at times weak secondary

I'm aware of that. I wasn't saying that as an indictment of their run defenses, just saying that you can't compare them to OU holistically.
I don't think OU is a great team, but I don't think they are Stanford or Michigan State either. Our run defense doesn't have to completely shut you down to win this game.