Biden Presidency

[Irish#1]

And yet another example of why his handlers have to do their best to keep him away from unscripted mic time. That Biden was hypocritical enough and stupid enough to do this is about as surprising as finding out a Kardashian acted trashy. What will be interesting and fun is watching CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the Pravda Amerika gang spin it.

This the same guy that said he would bring honor back to the presidency? How presidential of you Joe.

 

[drayer54]

To be clear, I don't think a POTUS should talk that way, but I'm more outraged at the hypocrisy from the media and startled by how inept he was to stand there in front of an open mic and say that. It wasn't a hot mic, it was intentional as could be and it's not like it was a ridiculous question. At least he called Doocy to apologize, I guess.

Also- Re: Biden's super-low unemployment rate

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JJHunt10/status/1485993315971608588?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[GowerND11]

To be clear, I don't think a POTUS should talk that way, but I'm more outraged at the hypocrisy from the media and startled by how inept he was to stand there in front of an open mic and say that. It wasn't a hot mic, it was intentional as could be and it's not like it was a ridiculous question. At least he called Doocy to apologize, I guess.

Also- Re: Biden's super-low unemployment rate

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JJHunt10/status/1485993315971608588?s=20[/TWEET]

Ok... so then it wasn't Trump's doing during his Presidency either.

 

[TorontoGold]

Ok... so then it wasn't Trump's doing during his Presidency either.

Shhhh don't point this out to them. The group that cheered on when Trump would clap back at Acosta is now upset that Biden said mean things to Doocy. Guess we'll see if Biden revokes his press pass, I wonder if we go back to 2019 and check out what the squad said then....

To be fair, Abc2miller was the only one who would call out when Trump when he said things like injecting disinfectants.

 

[Irish#1]

Shhhh don't point this out to them. The group that cheered on when Trump would clap back at Acosta is now upset that Biden said mean things to Doocy. Guess we'll see if Biden revokes his press pass, I wonder if we go back to 2019 and check out what the squad said then....

To be fair, Abc2miller was the only one who would call out when Trump when he said things like injecting disinfectants.

I agreed with a lot of his policies, but I have said many times that Trump needed to keep his mouth shut or get off Twitter. It's just hypocritical of Uncle Joe to say one thing and then act like Trump. At least he called and apologized. Trump would have never done that.

Trump didn't say to specifically inject with disinfectants.

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Then everyone quickly said Trump wants us to inject bleach.

 

[Greenore]

Shhhh don't point this out to them. The group that cheered on when Trump would clap back at Acosta is now upset that Biden said mean things to Doocy. Guess we'll see if Biden revokes his press pass, I wonder if we go back to 2019 and check out what the squad said then....

To be fair, Abc2miller was the only one who would call out when Trump when he said things like injecting disinfectants.

To be honest, that is not correct. You appear to be pretty intelligent but I also think you have been "chumming the waters" pretty hard the past few days.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Agreed. He never did say that people should actually inject themselves with bleach. However, it was still bonkers to even throw that out in the first place. Both sides were guilty of overhyping or understating what he said.

 

[drayer54]

I don't stand by all of Trump's words, especially those post-election. Again, my outrage is at the false perception that this stuff was isolated to Trump and the complete hypocrisy in the media outlook on this. I like it when the GOP shoots back at partisan hack journos and don't take the bait of journos trying to ask questions that box them into Dem talking points.

Also worth pointing out that Doocy's question was completely fair. Also supports the lack of competency perception clouding Biden as he stood in front of the mic and said this. I think the handlers decided they needed to attack the poll ratings and get him out in front of the camera more, but it isn't working. I would be looking for new managers if I were a Dem. Klain and Rice aren't running the country well and can't move the needle on his failures.

 

[ulukinatme]

Shhhh don't point this out to them. The group that cheered on when Trump would clap back at Acosta is now upset that Biden said mean things to Doocy. Guess we'll see if Biden revokes his press pass, I wonder if we go back to 2019 and check out what the squad said then....

To be fair, Abc2miller was the only one who would call out when Trump when he said things like injecting disinfectants.

The disinfectants comment was definitely stupid, but just as stupid was the way the media was taking it to the next level. Trump said it as a "what if" after talking about how there were some experiments with UV light and killing disease and wouldn't it be something if we could use disinfectants in a similar way. The media then ran with is and said, "OMG, he's telling you to inject bleach!" They did something similar when he was talking about the problems of forest fires on the west coast. He was talking about how all the dry, dead wood on the forest floor was like a match waiting to explode. Next media talking point: "Trump says trees spontaneously combust!" It's just disingenuous and silly what they were doing, but at the same time he should have known that they were going to take anything he said quite literally for a sound byte.

 

[TorontoGold]

To be honest, that is not correct. You appear to be pretty intelligent but I also think you have been "chumming the waters" pretty hard the past few days.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

I would ask if your political leanings may be contributing to that notion. I've seen some comments calling vaccine mandates similar to what jews faced in Germany and saying it's Nazi-esque without much push back.

People add hyperbole to their posts all the time no one is going to be robotic (maybe Legacy, that guy was always a different breed)

 

[TorontoGold]

I agreed with a lot of his policies, but I have said many times that Trump needed to keep his mouth shut or get off Twitter. It's just hypocritical of Uncle Joe to say one thing and then act like Trump. At least he called and apologized. Trump would have never done that.

Trump didn't say to specifically inject with disinfectants.



Then everyone quickly said Trump wants us to inject bleach.

Right, Joe puffing his chest out about restoring the "order" to the presidency is kind of a clown thing to do, because there's going to be times when a clown like Doocy will say "Uhhh sir is inflation bad?" You'll want to clown on him and if you criticized the other guy for doing it why are you yourself doing it.

The injection comment is pretty jokes because of watching everyone bend over backwards to defend it, like it was an insanely stupid thing for a president to say and have broadcasted around the world, just admit "Ya you know what, that was dumb" and everyone will move on. Like when Trump stared at the sun during the eclipse, everyone had a chuckle and moved on.

 

[Greenore]

I would ask if your political leanings may be contributing to that notion. I've seen some comments calling vaccine mandates similar to what jews faced in Germany and saying it's Nazi-esque without much push back.

People add hyperbole to their posts all the time no one is going to be robotic (maybe Legacy, that guy was always a different breed)

Reductio ad absurdum

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[Irish#1]

Right, Joe puffing his chest out about restoring the "order" to the presidency is kind of a clown thing to do, because there's going to be times when a clown like Doocy will say "Uhhh sir is inflation bad?" You'll want to clown on him and if you criticized the other guy for doing it why are you yourself doing it.

The injection comment is pretty jokes because of watching everyone bend over backwards to defend it, like it was an insanely stupid thing for a president to say and have broadcasted around the world, just admit "Ya you know what, that was dumb" and everyone will move on. Like when Trump stared at the sun during the eclipse, everyone had a chuckle and moved on.

So why is Doocy a clown? Reporters have asked questions outside of the subject or guidelines for ages. Regardless, Joe is responsible for his response, not Doocy.

 

[TorontoGold]

So why is Doocy a clown? Reporters have asked questions outside of the subject or guidelines for ages. Regardless, Joe is responsible for his response, not Doocy.

It was a ridiculous question. Ask a coach if they think it's an asset to score less points then the other team.

 

[drayer54]

It was a ridiculous question. Ask a coach if they think it's an asset to score less points then the other team.

Well, your misleading on the question. "Do you think inflation is a political liability going into the midterms?"

Doocy asks questions that the dem operatives from CNN, MSNBC, and NPR don't. Now to be fair, that presser last week was the first time we really saw anyone outside of Fox challenge him. They did ask some direct questions not about ice cream there for the first time.

People are transitioning to midterms, talking about retirements, generic ballot and favorability polls and you act like this is a question about Joe's unacknowledged grandkid in Arkansas.

It's a very fair question.

 

[irishog77]

It was a ridiculous question. Ask a coach if they think it's an asset to score less points then the other team.

Campaigning was also 1 of the 3 new strategies Biden said himself he was employing in his second year in office, i.e. attempting to bump his numbers.

Inflation is very real. Biden and his team have essentially spent his 1st year in office saying it isn't real, is transitory, or even good. Only in the last few weeks have the mainstream media begun to even question the administration's talking point that the inflation we're experiencing isn't transitory, nor good.

We all know the answer to Doocy's question. Based off that, sure, you can claim it is a ridiculous question. YOU may not like the question, but the fact is, it is a FAIR question to ask, given Biden's past treatment of it, and his stated actions for this year. It is also quite fair to use a president's own words and actions against him.

 

[Irish#1]

It was a ridiculous question. Ask a coach if they think it's an asset to score less points then the other team.

Hyperbole!

 

[TorontoGold]

Campaigning was also 1 of the 3 new strategies Biden said himself he was employing in his second year in office, i.e. attempting to bump his numbers.

Inflation is very real. Biden and his team have essentially spent his 1st year in office saying it isn't real, is transitory, or even good. Only in the last few weeks have the mainstream media begun to even question the administration's talking point that the inflation we're experiencing isn't transitory, nor good.

We all know the answer to Doocy's question. Based off that, sure, you can claim it is a ridiculous question. YOU may not like the question, but the fact is, it is a FAIR question to ask, given Biden's past treatment of it, and his stated actions for this year. It is also quite fair to use a president's own words and actions against him.

Fox is MSM, right?

There's intelligent ways to ask like "Joe you said X about inflation on date Y, there has been no improvement, what policies are you considering to help with this issue? What are you hoping that Jerome Powell does?" That achieves way more as it forces him to make statements on multiple issues.

 

[irishog77]

Fox is MSM, right?

There's intelligent ways to ask like "Joe you said X about inflation on date Y, there has been no improvement, what policies are you considering to help with this issue? What are you hoping that Jerome Powell does?" That achieves way more as it forces him to make statements on multiple issues.

Agreed that there are BETTER ways to phrase and the question. But 1) Joe also isn't exactly known for making himself available for questions and 2) he yelled the question out as they were exiting the room. Kinda tough to get a verbose soliloquy out when you're far away and being escorted out.
When Joe has the balls to sit down for an interview with anybody that won't lob softballs to him (or is allowed to do so by his handlers), and that question and the way it was worded comes out, then we can agree wholeheartedly.

What's your point about Fox? Are you trying to play some clever game about semantics? Just stop. You'll lose 100 times out of 100 if you want to make some argument that ~90% of the media doesn't give Joe and the democratic party hand jobs, nor carry their water.

 

[drayer54]

Fox is MSM, right?

There's intelligent ways to ask like "Joe you said X about inflation on date Y, there has been no improvement, what policies are you considering to help with this issue? What are you hoping that Jerome Powell does?" That achieves way more as it forces him to make statements on multiple issues.

Ahh, ok. He didn't frame it appropriately. To be clear, this wasn't Doocy stepping up to the podium, this was him getting a question in as Biden's handlers were trying to clear the room. Biden typically goes down the list of pre-approved question askers, like Yamiche who understands to include praise in her question. Those who ask real questions don't seem to make the cut. Doocy is so ridiculous for asking a question about one of the top concerns of most Americans.


This is Toronto's idea of a non-ridiculous question presented in the appropriate format-

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1375140811676004357?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[TorontoGold]

Agreed that there are BETTER ways to phrase and the question. But 1) Joe also isn't exactly known for making himself available for questions and 2) he yelled the question out as they were exiting the room. Kinda tough to get a verbose soliloquy out when you're far away and being escorted out.
When Joe has the balls to sit down for an interview with anybody that won't lob softballs to him (or is allowed to do so by his handlers), and that question and the way it was worded comes out, then we can agree wholeheartedly.

What's your point about Fox? Are you trying to play some clever game about semantics? Just stop. You'll lose 100 times out of 100 if you want to make some argument that ~90% of the media doesn't give Joe and the democratic party hand jobs, nor carry their water.

I don't disagree with your comments. Joe is a clown for trumpeting how he's going to be some presidential choir boy and then freak out on a hot mic about the same kind of stuff that Acosta would do to Trump. My point is, is it really worth it to get upset about this given the phrasing of the question and the composure of the recipient? If your stance lolz get rekt CNN when this was happening a couple years ago it's hypocritical but otherwise you're allowed to be upset at how Biden handled it.

My point is Fox has been allowed to be there and to ask questions the entire time. It's not like his press pass was revoked. I don't disagree that there is certainly bias on CNN/MSNBC for the Biden crew, these people are not heros so infatuation with press secretaries etc. is bizarre.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Ahh, ok. He didn't frame it appropriately. To be clear, this wasn't Doocy stepping up to the podium, this was him getting a question in as Biden's handlers were trying to clear the room. Biden typically goes down the list of pre-approved question askers, like Yamiche who understands to include praise in her question. Those who ask real questions don't seem to make the cut. Doocy is so ridiculous for asking a question about one of the top concerns of most Americans.


This is Toronto's idea of a non-ridiculous question presented in the appropriate format-

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1375140811676004357?s=20[/TWEET]

Watching that video it wasn't quite what I expected. A majority of MSM does the bidding of the Democratic party. Then you have a certain segment of those people who actually use their position in the press to influence policy or at a minimum trying to influence the views of their readers

I listened to her question and I interpreted her question as being framed in a way that she was not stroking Biden's ego or puffing him up. She included the statement "the perception of you that got you elected a moral, decent man........" as a way of in essence saying, a moral, decent man would eliminate these overcrowded facilities and the immigration policy be altered to what a good and moral man would do. I believe she was saying your are not acting like a moral decent man.

 

[TorontoGold]

Watching that video it wasn't quite what I expected. A majority of MSM does the bidding of the Democratic party. Then you have a certain segment of those people who actually use their position in the press to influence policy or at a minimum trying to influence the views of their readers. I listened to her question and I interpreted her question as being framed in a way that she was not stroking Biden's ego or puffing him up. She included the statement "the perception of you that got you elected a moral, decent man is the reason a lot of immigrants are coming to this country and are trusting you with unaccompanied minors" as a way of in essence saying, a moral, decent man would eliminate these overcrowded facilities and the immigration policy be altered to what a good and moral man would do. I believe she was saying your are not acting like a moral decent man.

Yep this how I interpreted it too, I thought for sure it was going to be some question about how good of a boy his dog is. I honestly think it's fair to say "You campaigned on being a good person and bringing respect back, but here you are picking fights with reporters and can't seem to get the senate in line."

 

[Irish#1]

Fox is MSM, right?

There's intelligent ways to ask like "Joe you said X about inflation on date Y, there has been no improvement, what policies are you considering to help with this issue? What are you hoping that Jerome Powell does?" That achieves way more as it forces him to make statements on multiple issues.

Even CNN's Tapper thought it was a fair question.

"I don’t think any president should be calling any journalist a dumb son of a b----," CNN's Jake Tapper told late-night host Jimmy Kimmel on Monday. "And to be fair to Peter Doocy, the question was fairly anodyne."

BTW Toronto.....This was pulled from an article on foxnews.com, not CNN.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-...ical-struggles

 

[TorontoGold]

Even CNN's Tapper thought it was a fair question.



BTW Toronto.....This was pulled from an article on foxnews.com, not CNN.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-...ical-struggles

I knew I could get the CNN take from you! lol

That's great Jake Tapper thinks the question was anodyne. We're into semantics here.

 

[drayer54]

I knew I could get the CNN take from you! lol

That's great Jake Tapper thinks the question was anodyne. We're into semantics here.

Just waiting for you to admit you called him a clown and thought it was a stupid question because you didn't like who asked it.

Also- Looks like the SCOTUS seat will change headlines for Biden in the coming weeks. Time to pick the best black woman. Worked great for VP.

 

[TorontoGold]

Just waiting for you to admit you called him a clown and thought it was a stupid question because you didn't like who asked it.

Also- Looks like the SCOTUS seat will change headlines for Biden in the coming weeks. Time to pick the best black woman. Worked great for VP.

You're able to go back to my posts and see I called him a clown and that I thought it was a stupid question, right?

Don't make it about race, but here let me qualify a nominee that's black won't be good because the VP choice was only picked because she is black and therefore I won't think any SCOTUS who's black is any good.

 

[irishog77]

I don't disagree with your comments. Joe is a clown for trumpeting how he's going to be some presidential choir boy and then freak out on a hot mic about the same kind of stuff that Acosta would do to Trump. My point is, is it really worth it to get upset about this given the phrasing of the question and the composure of the recipient? If your stance lolz get rekt CNN when this was happening a couple years ago it's hypocritical but otherwise you're allowed to be upset at how Biden handled it.

My point is Fox has been allowed to be there and to ask questions the entire time. It's not like his press pass was revoked. I don't disagree that there is certainly bias on CNN/MSNBC for the Biden crew, these people are not heros so infatuation with press secretaries etc. is bizarre.

Who's upset? People have simply been pointing out the double standard. In all honesty, I watched the clip, and my take was that Biden was saying it in jest. Like, "C'mon, of course inflation is bad for me, dude." And then Biden is getting praised as a stand up guy because he called Doocy to "clear the air." Well, ok, that's something, I guess. I may be totally wrong, but as of yesterday morning (when I quit following the story), I also hadn't read that Biden actually apologized or said the actual words, "I am sorry." So again, it seems a double standard would be in play regarding Biden.

As for the second part of the bolded, you are again upset about the phrasing of the question. Please tell us when Biden is available to answer all these well-phrased questions from the media? There is a reason he is literally called "Hidin Biden." The president just days earlier that he wanted and needed to get out and campaign for other dems, and inflation is not only real, it is probably the biggest issue voters are concerned about. So Doocy asked, as Biden's handlers were, yet again, removing press. Was Doocy expected to wait another year for Biden's next press conference to ask him? And besides, it seems Biden understands Doocy and his role better than you, evidenced by this quote from Doocy regarding the matter: 'And we went back and forth, and we were talking about just kind of moving forward, and I made sure to tell him that I'm always gonna try to ask something different than what everybody else is asking. And he said, ‘You got to.’ And that's a quote from the president, so I'll keep doing it."

The victim blaming by you in the second part of the bolded is quite noble as well. I'm sure that goes over well when you ask a victim of domestic abuse, "Well, did your phrasing or composure maybe mean you deserved for your husband to beat the hell out of you?"

 

[TorontoGold]

Who's upset? People have simply been pointing out the double standard. In all honesty, I watched the clip, and my take was that Biden was saying it in jest. Like, "C'mon, of course inflation is bad for me, dude." And then Biden is getting praised as a stand up guy because he called Doocy to "clear the air." Well, ok, that's something, I guess. I may be totally wrong, but as of yesterday morning (when I quit following the story), I also hadn't read that Biden actually apologized or said the actual words, "I am sorry." So again, it seems a double standard would be in play regarding Biden.

As for the second part of the bolded, you are again upset about the phrasing of the question. Please tell us when Biden is available to answer all these well-phrased questions from the media? There is a reason he is literally called "Hidin Biden." The president just days earlier that he wanted and needed to get out and campaign for other dems, and inflation is not only real, it is probably the biggest issue voters are concerned about. So Doocy asked, as Biden's handlers were, yet again, removing press. Was Doocy expected to wait another year for Biden's next press conference to ask him? And besides, it seems Biden understands Doocy and his role better than you, evidenced by this quote from Doocy regarding the matter: 'And we went back and forth, and we were talking about just kind of moving forward, and I made sure to tell him that I'm always gonna try to ask something different than what everybody else is asking. And he said, ‘You got to.’ And that's a quote from the president, so I'll keep doing it."

The victim blaming by you in the second part of the bolded is quite noble as well. I'm sure that goes over well when you ask a victim of domestic abuse, "Well, did your phrasing or composure maybe mean you deserved for your husband to beat the hell out of you?"

If you go to page 59 of this thread you can see multiple posts about this whole interaction, that doesn't seem like "NBD, defs not upset". You want to roast Biden or look into it further than I may think, that's fine, my comments towards the others are that they championed this behavior previously. So I won't hold you to their standard. I thought it was pretty jokes when the last guy did it because these "journalists" think they're gods gift to the world.

I don't know, personally I don't find it helpful to listen to pre-planned out responses on these items. Maybe you find it helpful, all the power to you, but if you're expecting some sort of important piece info being shared by Biden in that type of setting don't get your hopes up. I sure hope Doocy understands his role better than me, good to hear someone asking the POTUS is more knowledgeable about his position than some bozo on the internet.

Good grief, I don't know what to say to the last point - other than I hope you can help Doocy recover from an event apparently comparable to domestic abuse.

 

[drayer54]

You're able to go back to my posts and see I called him a clown and that I thought it was a stupid question, right?

Don't make it about race, but here let me qualify a nominee that's black won't be good because the VP choice was only picked because she is black and therefore I won't think any SCOTUS who's black is any good.

Biden campaigned on picking a black woman for the Supreme Court and a woman for VP. To be fair, it was the party that cornered him into picking a black woman. His Veep pick was awful. She wasn't picked to deliver a state or because her superb acumen. She didn't even make it to the vote in Iowa. Her disapproval is somehow worse than Bidens. Now we're using the same logic to make a SCOTUS pick. I don't know anything about these contenders, but it is quite clear they are being filtered to the top for a reason.