Article: TCU playing Notre Dame would be a Frogs coup

[dublinirish]

Notre Dame in talks with TCU about football game, Wednesday, July 6, 2016 | The Star-Telegram

 

[Legacy]

We have openings for a Shamrock Series game in 2018 (Sept 15) or in 2019 (Sept 7).

Make it so, number one.

 

[Legacy]

Would love to see this in AT&T.

 

[texbender]

Would love to see this in AT&T.

That stadium would be packed with purple, home game for TCU if that's what you want?

 

[GoldenDomer]

Love it. I'm a big fan of Gary Patterson.

 

[Classic Irish]

I'd like to see a home and home series. The Shamrock series games do zilch for me. I try to do a road game at least once a year (this year going to NC State) and would love to road trip to Fort Worth.

 

[BobbyMac]

We have openings for a Shamrock Series game in 2018 (Sept 15) or in 2019 (Sept 7).

Make it so, number one.

No way.

ND should play the '18 SS against Vandy or if unavailable, UCF or USF at the New Miami Stadium. High probability win in a metro area where ND pulls a lot of recruits. Adding TCU on the road in their home market when you have UM, Stanford, FSU, & SC... not to mention NW, Pitt & Va Tech is unneeded if not foolish.

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ND's schedule is full in '19.

A home and away in '20 & '21 along with Purdue as the additional to the usual ACC - Stanford - SC would be better even though '20 has a home game with Clemson and '21 opens at FSU.

Would love to see this in AT&T.

Would rather see the Irish play SMU at AT&T or Rice at NRG Stadium in Houston.

That stadium would be packed with purple, home game for TCU if that's what you want?

You give the TCU fans a lot of credit. They could only put 45k in Jerry World for a game against Oregon St. and they allow this to happen at home for a conference game:

I'd like to see a home and home series. The Shamrock series games do zilch for me. I try to do a road game at least once a year (this year going to NC State) and would love to road trip to Fort Worth.

Would you rather go to their place or Jerry World? If I was Swarbrick I'd offer a two game series with them in '20 & '21. Play their home game at AT&T or NRG in Houston and ND's home game in SB or in Chicago or Indy as a SS game possibly. I'm not playing at a stadium that holds only 45k-50K if i can get them to drive a half hour and split the gate of 80k+... more room for recruits to unofficial

 

[calvegas04]

Let's get a home and home with Washington I would like to see a game in their stadium

 

[BobbyMac]

Let's get a home and home with Washington I would like to see a game in their stadium

I'd do a SS game against Washington and play in the LA Rams new Stadium.

No real reason to play in Seattle. Not enough recruits to chase there.

 

[Classic Irish]

Would you rather go to their place or Jerry World? l[/I]

I couldn't care less about "Jerry World." I'd much rather go to their place. I've been to games at numerous college football stadiums (e.g. ND, Air Force, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Tennessee, Penn State, Texas, North Carolina, Washington---to name a few). I prefer a college football game in a college football stadium, preferably on a college campus. I have zero interest in going to some NFL stadium.

 

[calvegas04]

I'd do a SS game against Washington and play in the LA Rams new Stadium.

No real reason to play in Seattle. Not enough recruits to chase there.

Still would rather play at Washington, we already cover LA and the bay area

 

[Classic Irish]

Still would rather play at Washington, we already cover LA and the bay area

Washington's stadium is a nice place to watch a game. I was there when ND played there in 2005.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Article: TCU playing Notre Dame would be a Frogs coup

I'd do a SS game against Washington and play in the LA Rams new Stadium.



No real reason to play in Seattle. Not enough recruits to chase there.

I'll be honest: I'm kind of tired of the whole "doesn't help recruiting" attitude. I get it, and understand it, but scheduling kickass games (like Michigan) in kickass places is awesome IMO, even if it doesn't necessarily "help recruiting."

Sure a game against Oregon in Autzen Stadium isn't going to be around as many recruits stomping grounds as one at Pitt or the likes, but (once again) IMO is way sexier.

I do like how ND has gone all over though. In my lifetime, I've seen games they played in the states of (not all in person of course, and I'm sure there's some left out):

Hawaii
Washington
California
Arizona
Texas
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Illinois
Michigan
Ohio
Tennessee
Louisiana
Florida
Georgia
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
Massachusetts
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
West Virginia

I mean that's almost half of the entire nation. There can't be anyone else who can claim that in less than 40 years (or ever).

 

[BobbyMac]

I couldn't care less about "Jerry World." I'd much rather go to their place. I've been to games at numerous college football stadiums (e.g. ND, Air Force, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Tennessee, Penn State, Texas, North Carolina, Washington---to name a few). I prefer a college football game in a college football stadium, preferably on a college campus. I have zero interest in going to some NFL stadium.

I would normally agree.

I like to go to road games too but stuffing ND fans into a 45k stadium when there's an 80,000 seat stadium that impresses recruits more and takes away their home field advantage, isn't in ND's best interest. If you want some Texas game day atmosphere, don't miss the game in Austin.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'll be honest: I'm kind of tired of the whole "doesn't help recruiting" attitude. I get it, and understand it, but scheduling kickass games (like Michigan) in kickass places is awesome IMO, even if it doesn't necessarily "help recruiting."

Sure a game against Oregon in Autzen Stadium isn't going to be around as many recruits stomping grounds as one at Pitt or the likes, but (once again) IMO is way sexier.

Yeah I agree. When ND had a full schedule to chose who they wanted, you didn't have to think like that. Now they have just 3 games and they have chosen to fill it with a lamb, a national power in recruiting + area and a former B1G historical rival. MSU, UM, Purdue and NW are all stagger-scheduled in the upcoming years.

You put Michigan and Oregon in the same category. Michigan is a great game all around. There's history, there's a mutual border, there's talent in Detroit metro, kids from NJ, FL, TX & CA will all come to SB or AA to see these two play. UDub and Oregon don't have those. With the ACC taking half the schedule, Navy, SC and Stanford, the lamb and the demand for a B1G rival taking 11/12's of the schedule, you have to make that last game count. UT, UGa, OSU, A&M all make more sense, just look at ND's roster.

 

[Classic Irish]

I would normally agree.

I like to go to road games too but stuffing ND fans into a 45k stadium when there's an 80,000 seat stadium that impresses recruits more and takes away their home field advantage, isn't in ND's best interest. If you want some Texas game day atmosphere, don't miss the game in Austin.

I attended the ND-Texas game in Austin in 1996. In my view, there's nothing like a college football game on a college campus. I'm all for impressing recruits, but the games are also for alums and fans---not just recruits. Any recruit whose decision on whether to come to ND is based on playing in an NFL stadium probably should go somewhere else.

 

[BobbyMac]

I attended the ND-Texas game in Austin in 1996. In my view, there's nothing like a college football game on a college campus. I'm all for impressing recruits, but the games are also for alums and fans---not just recruits. Any recruit whose decision on whether to come to ND is based on playing in an NFL stadium probably should go somewhere else.

Once again, I agree. I just feel the @ TCU vs TCU @ AT&T is a different beast. I hope they never play TCU to be honest. Booking them for a home and away 4 years out could be a big loser. TCU could fall apart and kill your SOS. A bad UT or SC doesn't kill you because they're Texas & Southern Cal, a bad TCU is like playing a bad Pitt, NW or Va Tech. You get no credit.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Article: TCU playing Notre Dame would be a Frogs coup

I attended the ND-Texas game in Austin in 1996. In my view, there's nothing like a college football game on a college campus. I'm all for impressing recruits, but the games are also for alums and fans---not just recruits. Any recruit whose decision on whether to come to ND is based on playing in an NFL stadium probably should go somewhere else.

This right here. Couldn't agree more. Playing Clemson in the Georgia Dome or somewhere like that last year instead of in Death Valley during a hurricane takes soooooo much away from what made that game great.

 

[texbender]

I'll be honest: I'm kind of tired of the whole "doesn't help recruiting" attitude. I get it, and understand it, but scheduling kickass games (like Michigan) in kickass places is awesome IMO, even if it doesn't necessarily "help recruiting."

Sure a game against Oregon in Autzen Stadium isn't going to be around as many recruits stomping grounds as one at Pitt or the likes, but (once again) IMO is way sexier.

I do like how ND has gone all over though. In my lifetime, I've seen games they played in the states of (not all in person of course, and I'm sure there's some left out):

Hawaii
Washington
California
Arizona
Texas
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Illinois
Michigan
Ohio
Tennessee
Louisiana
Florida
Georgia
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
Massachusetts
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
West Virginia

I mean that's almost half of the entire nation. There can't be anyone else who can claim that in less than 40 years (or ever).

I guess I must be older than you, but in my lifetime ND has also played in Alabama, Colorado, Mississippi, Missouri....and game upcoming in Kentucky

 

[texbender]

I guess I must be older than you, but in my lifetime ND has also played in Alabama, Colorado, Mississippi, Missouri....and game upcoming in Kentucky

oooops, and add S Carolina too

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Article: TCU playing Notre Dame would be a Frogs coup

I guess I must be older than you, but in my lifetime ND has also played in Alabama, Colorado, Mississippi, Missouri....and game upcoming in Kentucky

I knew there would be a few I'd forget, hell, South Carolina was last season, and I even mentioned that game earlier in another post.

 

[stlnd01]

I guess I must be older than you, but in my lifetime ND has also played in Alabama, Colorado, Mississippi, Missouri....and game upcoming in Kentucky

Yeah, they played in Colorado two years ago against Air Force. Also in Utah against BYU in the Willingham years.

As for TCU: Yeah, I'm generally for playing teams in on-campus venues. But (speaking as one who's been to a couple of games at BC) when the stadium is small and crappy and there's an NFL stadium in town, I don't think the bigger venue is so bad.

That said, I think the Shamrock Series is a tough sell for quality opponents. There's not much in it for them. I was at the BC game at Fenway last year and, well, if I was a BC fan I would have been pretty pissed. It was like they weren't even there. Until the game started anyway.
You can do like we did with Arizona State, where it's a home-and-home and our home game is the Shamrock game, but then we miss having interesting opponents come on campus, which is a lot more fun anyway. Honestly I'd be fine having the Shamrock be an occasional thing, not every year. As others have said, recruits want to see big games, not Notre Dame beating up a service academy at whatever NFL stadium is up the road.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Yeah, they played in Colorado two years ago against Air Force. Also in Utah against BYU in the Willingham years.

Good catch. We're up to around 30 states now.

How about countries? I know Japan and Ireland. Anywhere else?

 

[stlnd01]

I knew there would be a few I'd forget, hell, South Carolina was last season, and I even mentioned that game earlier in another post.

Your point is the same, though. Of states with a P5 football program, Notre Dame has played in all but maybe five (I see Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Kentucky. Kansas.) in the last 20 years.

 

[Legacy]

Oregon ('82)

 

[calvegas04]

Good catch. We're up to around 30 states now.

How about countries? I know Japan and Ireland. Anywhere else?

Japan? That was an alumni game against a Japanese team

 

[Classic Irish]

Japan? That was an alumni game against a Japanese team

ND played Miami in the Mirage Bowl in Japan in the late 1970s.

 

[calvegas04]

ND played Miami in the Mirage Bowl in Japan in the late 1970s.

oh wow, learn something every day.

 

[Classic Irish]

oh wow, learn something every day.

Yeah, kind of crazy. The game was in 1979: ND 40, Miami 15.