Antifa

[Circa]

I would like to hear from some of you whom are smarter/more read, then I.
Antifa Isn't all that new yet has become very much apart of our lingo.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Antifa 'mapping' started a long time ago.<br>Q</p>— John F. Kennedy Jr. (@John_F_Kennnedy) <a href="https://twitter.com/John_F_Kennnedy/status/1267186913737412608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If you haven't heard of 'Q' yet, I'd recommend doing some Internet surfing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644228247552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Circa]

This guy Tim Poole has some interesting clips. He at times goes a little off the weird end of conspiracy, but lately he seems to be on point.
I recommend to anyone wanting to hear an alternative side of the mainstream to give him a shot.
In the past I've turned him off because of some weird way over the top ideas.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say, he is a smart young guy.


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[Irish YJ]

 

[Legacy]

Less than two weeks ago

These people crashed security at the Michigan capitol building.

Armed black citizens escorted a female black lawmaker, state representative Sarah Anthony, 36, pass the white protestors with guns.

Similar protests were in Minnesota and Virginia and elsewhere. Trump tweeted that these are "good people" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA" with similar Tweets on Michigan and Virginia, which was aimed at duly elected officials in those states. Some protestors at the capitols carried swastikas and Confederate flags.

 

[ulukinatme]

Less than two weeks ago

These people crashed security at the Michigan capitol building.

Similar protests were in Minnesota and Virginia and elsewhere. Trump tweeted that these are "good people" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA" with similar Tweets on Michigan and Virginia, which was aimed at duly elected officials in those states. Some protestors at the capitols carried swastikas and Confederate flags.

I saw one Confederate flag in a separate Guardian article, but no swastikas that I could see. There were an awful lot of American flags. That's the Guardian for you though. What does any of this have to do with Antifa? Doesn't seem like any of these awful "white supremacists" hurt anyone or damaged property like Antifa.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Less than two weeks ago

These people crashed security at the Michigan capitol building.

Armed black citizens escorted a female black lawmaker, state representative Sarah Anthony, 36, pass the white protestors with guns.

Similar protests were in Minnesota and Virginia and elsewhere. Trump tweeted that these are "good people" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA" with similar Tweets on Michigan and Virginia, which was aimed at duly elected officials in those states. Some protestors at the capitols carried swastikas and Confederate flags.

Did they try to burn it down? Did they burn any cars? Did they attack anyone?

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

A lot of mothers will wonder why their basement is being raided across the country coming soon.

 

[irishff1014]

White, tan, black, man or woman, gay or straight this group is out of control and give the ones who are protesting the correct way a bad name. I still don’t think they should block traffic but some groups are actually acting sensible.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Less than two weeks ago

These people crashed security at the Michigan capitol building.

Armed black citizens escorted a female black lawmaker, state representative Sarah Anthony, 36, pass the white protestors with guns.

Similar protests were in Minnesota and Virginia and elsewhere. Trump tweeted that these are "good people" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA" with similar Tweets on Michigan and Virginia, which was aimed at duly elected officials in those states. Some protestors at the capitols carried swastikas and Confederate flags.

Where's all the pictures of smoke, burned out businesses, dead bodies, burned down churches, smashed windows, car bombs, graffiti, trash, weapons caches, bricks, shootings, flipped cars, and people in ICU after getting beaten up?

Put your politics aside and please try to use some kind of common sense. You're a bright guy. You can't possibly believe that comparing the lockdown protests to these riots is remotely logical or reasonable.

 

[Circa]

I saw one Confederate flag in a separate Guardian article, but no swastikas that I could see. There were an awful lot of American flags. That's the Guardian for you though. What does any of this have to do with Antifa? Doesn't seem like any of these awful "white supremacists" hurt anyone or damaged property like Antifa.

It's amazing isn't it? The people that want to be... Have changed the word communism to the word Antifa... These things are media driven. That Is all I can see with my 2 evenly placed eyes and ears.

 

[BGIF]

Where's all the pictures of smoke, burned out businesses, dead bodies, burned down churches, smashed windows, car bombs, graffiti, trash, weapons caches, bricks, shootings, flipped cars, and people in ICU after getting beaten up?

Put your politics aside and please try to use some kind of common sense. You're a bright guy. You can't possibly believe that comparing the lockdown protests to these riots is remotely logical or reasonable.

Did they try to burn it down? Did they burn any cars? Did they attack anyone?

I saw one Confederate flag in a separate Guardian article, but no swastikas that I could see. There were an awful lot of American flags. That's the Guardian for you though. What does any of this have to do with Antifa? Doesn't seem like any of these awful "white supremacists" hurt anyone or damaged property like Antifa.

Less than two weeks ago

These people crashed security at the Michigan capitol building.

Armed black citizens escorted a female black lawmaker, state representative Sarah Anthony, 36, pass the white protestors with guns.

Similar protests were in Minnesota and Virginia and elsewhere. Trump tweeted that these are "good people" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA" with similar Tweets on Michigan and Virginia, which was aimed at duly elected officials in those states. Some protestors at the capitols carried swastikas and Confederate flags.

Don't you guys realize how much Legacy abhors your whatabouts posts?

He really hates it when you do the same thing he does.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I would dare antifa to come to the suburbs

 

[Irish YJ]

Don't you guys realize how much Legacy abhors your whatabouts posts?

He really hates it when you do the same thing he does.

Legacy failed to post the pic from one of his links.

 

[dublinirish]

I would dare antifa to come to the suburbs

ehh thats where exactly they are coming from.

 

[Irish YJ]

ehh thats where exactly they are coming from.

Nah. Maybe some, but most are urban hipsters. If they're living in the burbs, it's because they haven't left their parent's basement. Here in ATL, there's distinct pockets of them in a few areas that are known as hipster/artsy/gay/lib sections of town. Saw a few of them in Buckhead a few years ago protesting and bullying, but they messed with some Georgia Tech frat boys who ran them off lol.

 

[ulukinatme]

I would dare antifa to come to the suburbs

Yup, 2/3 of rural residents own guns according to pew research, and somewhere between 4/5 and half of suburbans own one. Among those that do own at least one gun, 2/3 have multiple guns. Apparently in the North-East only 25% of the population owns a gun or lives with someone that does, but in the Midwest, South, and West it trends closer to 50%. Bottom line, we're the militia and we'll defend our homes from invasion. I seriously doubt they come though.

 

[Irish YJ]

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[dublinirish]

Yup, 2/3 of rural residents own guns according to pew research, and somewhere between 4/5 and half of suburbans own one. Among those that do own at least one gun, 2/3 have multiple guns. Apparently in the North-East only 25% of the population owns a gun or lives with someone that does, but in the Midwest, South, and West it trends closer to 50%. Bottom line, we're the militia and we'll defend our homes from invasion. I seriously doubt they come though.

probably more like to shoot a family member than an antifa member i'd wager

 

[Legacy]

I saw one Confederate flag in a separate Guardian article, but no swastikas that I could see. There were an awful lot of American flags. That's the Guardian for you though. What does any of this have to do with Antifa? Doesn't seem like any of these awful "white supremacists" hurt anyone or damaged property like Antifa.

Portland has a long history with antifa and white supremacists confronting each other, wrecking violence and attempting to bring arms into the it. Residents there do recognize both groups are outsiders, generally non-Oregonian. Antifa isn't worth their name but are anarchists. I have no problem with wrapping oneself in an American flag and pretending to patriotic like the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis and others while going to a Governor's house and expressing yourself. The same goes for the radical right who also do not acknowledge the legitimacy of our government. There's absolutely no place in our society for people who bring semi-automatics to take over a state government capital with those weapons and "Don't Tread on Me" flags and yelling at police. The biggest danger today is the future confrontation from those factions.

Madison in the Federalist Paper #10 on factions and the challenge they present began:

The Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection
To the People of the State of New York:

AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a wellconstructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction. The friend of popular governments never finds himself so much alarmed for their character and fate, as when he contemplates their propensity to this dangerous vice. He will not fail, therefore, to set a due value on any plan which, without violating the principles to which he is attached, provides a proper cure for it. The instability, injustice, and confusion introduced into the public councils, have, in truth, been the mortal diseases under which popular governments have everywhere perished; as they continue to be the favorite and fruitful topics from which the adversaries to liberty derive their most specious declamations. The valuable improvements made by the American constitutions on the popular models, both ancient and modern, cannot certainly be too much admired; but it would be an unwarrantable partiality, to contend that they have as effectually obviated the danger on this side, as was wished and expected. Complaints are everywhere heard from our most considerate and virtuous citizens, equally the friends of public and private faith, and of public and personal liberty, that our governments are too unstable, that the public good is disregarded in the conflicts of rival parties, and that measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority. However anxiously we may wish that these complaints had no foundation, the evidence, of known facts will not permit us to deny that they are in some degree true. It will be found, indeed, on a candid review of our situation, that some of the distresses under which we labor have been erroneously charged on the operation of our governments; but it will be found, at the same time, that other causes will not alone account for many of our heaviest misfortunes; and, particularly, for that prevailing and increasing distrust of public engagements, and alarm for private rights, which are echoed from one end of the continent to the other. These must be chiefly, if not wholly, effects of the unsteadiness and injustice with which a factious spirit has tainted our public administrations. (cont)

Perhaps that is a greater discussion than this thread, but is the reason behind my post. As disgusting as the looting by opportunists and the disregard for individual rights and property that antifa has demonstrated wherever they emerge and attack our institutions and first responders and the property of Americans, there is a greater danger when these factions meet. So far, antifa has not armed themselves with semi-automatics. They will.

At the risk of posting too many articles but along those lines,

U.S. attorney for Oregon says violent clashes being orchestrated nationally: ‘People need to wake up’

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Portland has a long history with antifa and white supremacists confronting each other, wrecking violence and attempting to bring arms into the it. Residents there do recognize both groups are outsiders, generally non-Oregonian. Antifa isn't worth their name but are anarchists. I have no problem with wrapping oneself in an American flag and pretending to patriotic like the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis and others while going to a Governor's house and expressing yourself. The same goes for the radical right who also do not acknowledge the legitimacy of our government. There's absolutely no place in our society for people who bring semi-automatics to take over a state government capital with those weapons and "Don't Tread on Me" flags and yelling at police. The biggest danger today is the future confrontation from those factions.

Madison in the Federalist Paper #10 on factions and the challenge they present began:

The Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection
To the People of the State of New York:


Perhaps that is a greater discussion than this thread, but is the reason behind my post. As disgusting as the looting by opportunists and the disregard for individual rights and property that antifa has demonstrated wherever they emerge and attack our institutions and first responders and the property of Americans, there is a greater danger when these factions meet. So far, antifa has not armed themselves with semi-automatics. They will.

At the risk of posting too many articles but along those lines,

U.S. attorney for Oregon says violent clashes being orchestrated nationally: ‘People need to wake up’

Yeah they skipped over semiautomatics to bombs. In all seriousness, ANTIFA seems wary of stuff that can be tracked/traced. That might have be part of the reason they dont arm up because it will cause a lot of attention. Also, this is just my observation and is not based on anything factual. But I feel like ANTIFA positions itself as the igniter of unrest, moving in shadows, manipulating angry and passionate crowds of people into mob rage. They serve as the catalyst to the unrest and keep the unrest burning as the mobs of people do the destruction. That may change because I suspect theyre highly organized and are probably trying to cause unrest in phases. This is the largest success these clowns have had, the next phase (which will not happen, theyll be crushed before that) is to occupy positions of power enacting and enforcing their agenda...then we'll see them armed up. But that won't happen.

 

[Irish YJ]

Portland has a long history with antifa and white supremacists confronting each other, wrecking violence and attempting to bring arms into the it. Residents there do recognize both groups are outsiders, generally non-Oregonian. Antifa isn't worth their name but are anarchists. I have no problem with wrapping oneself in an American flag and pretending to patriotic like the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis and others while going to a Governor's house and expressing yourself. The same goes for the radical right who also do not acknowledge the legitimacy of our government. There's absolutely no place in our society for people who bring semi-automatics to take over a state government capital with those weapons and "Don't Tread on Me" flags and yelling at police. The biggest danger today is the future confrontation from those factions.

Madison in the Federalist Paper #10 on factions and the challenge they present began:

The Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection
To the People of the State of New York:


Perhaps that is a greater discussion than this thread, but is the reason behind my post. As disgusting as the looting by opportunists and the disregard for individual rights and property that antifa has demonstrated wherever they emerge and attack our institutions and first responders and the property of Americans, there is a greater danger when these factions meet. So far, antifa has not armed themselves with semi-automatics. They will.

At the risk of posting too many articles but along those lines,

U.S. attorney for Oregon says violent clashes being orchestrated nationally: ‘People need to wake up’

To the bolded... LOL... Nobody "took over" anything. Nobody got beat up, nothing was burned, and nothing was looted. And you deem it as alt right. What about the armed guys from LAID (Legally Armed in Detroit) who also showed up at the State Capital Building. Pic below

The leader of the group had this to say...

"I want to present myself as an adult black man, fully armed and not a danger," said Stephen Alexander, 46, of Lansing, who carried a pistol outside the Capitol building during the event. "If you are not a danger to me, I am not dangerous. "It's as simple as that."

Are they alt right?

Did you know that many of the armed white guys at the Capital Building were Boogaloo guys, who are supporting BLM? What say yee? lol

 

[Irish YJ]

Yeah they skipped over semiautomatics to bombs. In all seriousness, ANTIFA seems wary of stuff that can be tracked/traced. That might have be part of the reason they dont arm up because it will cause a lot of attention. Also, this is just my observation and is not based on anything factual. But I feel like ANTIFA positions itself as the igniter of unrest, moving in shadows, manipulating angry and passionate crowds of people into mob rage. They serve as the catalyst to the unrest and keep the unrest burning as the mobs of people do the destruction. That may change because I suspect theyre highly organized and are probably trying to cause unrest in phases. This is the largest success these clowns have had, the next phase (which will not happen, theyll be crushed before that) is to occupy positions of power enacting and enforcing their agenda...then we'll see them armed up. But that won't happen.

Antifa was complaining that St Paul cops were taking their medical supplies. Turned out, the cops impounded one of their "medical" vehicles that included milk (to treat tear gas) and other stuff, but also included bats, body armor, etc.. One of bats was wrapped with barbed wire...

 

[Legacy]

Where's all the pictures of smoke, burned out businesses, dead bodies, burned down churches, smashed windows, car bombs, graffiti, trash, weapons caches, bricks, shootings, flipped cars, and people in ICU after getting beaten up?

Put your politics aside and please try to use some kind of common sense. You're a bright guy. You can't possibly believe that comparing the lockdown protests to these riots is remotely logical or reasonable.

You have my response and feelings above. I did read your latest post. Just as we have all been outraged at the brutality and murders with Floyd being the latest, stereotyping those who may offer a different opinion as well as questioning their "common sense", logic and reason is something to be expected from some posters and, unfortunately predictable. BTW, what happened with Praetorian?

When tribalism, for lack of a better word, devolves into antipathy and an inability to distinguish on a lawful protest and those who have no respect for our institutions, we risk our personal compassion for suffering of others whether victims of racism, vigilantism, or loss of entire family investments and personal injury.

 

[Legacy]

To the bolded... LOL... Nobody "took over" anything. Nobody got beat up, nothing was burned, and nothing was looted. And you deem it as alt right. What about the armed guys from LAID (Legally Armed in Detroit) who also showed up at the State Capital Building. Pic below

The leader of the group had this to say...



Are they alt right?

Did you know that many of the armed white guys at the Capital Building were Boogaloo guys, who are supporting BLM? What say yee? lol

Thanks for posting the photo of the armed AA group in my linked article. I had difficulty in getting the right http for it. The contrast between the thugs occupying the capitol and those who had to protect a black, female legislator to do her job was something that deserved to be included.

I had to look up Boogaloo boys but expected it would be something like a radical, white supremacist group that advocated violent uprisings and a second Civil War. That fits with the occupation of the Michigan state house. Clearly a domestic terrorist group that would have no restraint on killing Americans.

lol, eh? No comment on factionalism in America as addressed by Madison. This paragraph following the quote from F10 should have been included.

By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

That's my standard, though I doubt Madison or the other FFs could have envisioned Boogaloo, etc.

I have been impressed with the statements from the Atlanta mayor and the police chief and their quick action on firing those two police officers.

 

[Irish YJ]

Thanks for posting the photo of the armed AA group in my linked article. I had difficulty in getting the right http for it. The contrast between the thugs occupying the capitol and those who had to protect a black, female legislator to do her job was something that deserved to be included.

I had to look up Boogaloo boys but expected it would be something like a radical, white supremacist group that advocated violent uprisings and a second Civil War. That fits with the occupation of the Michigan state house. Clearly a domestic terrorist group that would have no restraint on killing Americans.

LOL... So armed AAs were needed to protect someone from other armed white folks (who did nothing but protest)? What about the LAID AA guys who weren't "protecting" anyone, but went to the Capital building to display their guns and exercise their 2A rights? So that's OK? lol

And Boogaloo folks that are standing and supporting BLM are clearly a domestic terrorist group, while Antifa is no threat. Very rich... Hey, there's some pics out there of Boogaloo guys hugging AA protesters, yet they're terrorist and white nationalists? Do your realize how silly you're sounding.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

You have my response and feelings above. I did read your latest post. Just as we have all been outraged at the brutality and murders with Floyd being the latest, stereotyping those who may offer a different opinion as well as questioning their "common sense", logic and reason is something to be expected from some posters and, unfortunately predictable. BTW, what happened with Praetorian?

When tribalism, for lack of a better word, devolves into antipathy and an inability to distinguish on a lawful protest and those who have no respect for our institutions, we risk our personal compassion for suffering of others whether victims of racism, vigilantism, or loss of entire family investments and personal injury.

If you want to have a discussion about Floyd and the problems relating to minority communities/violence in the communities/police violence, I'm all for it. Read the dozen posts I've made discussing the topic today and feel free to chime in, debate me, or disagree with me. I'm sure we can find common ground. I've been having a good discussion with other posters who disagree.

And yes, questioning someone's logic or intentions when they make assertions that are just flat out not true, like some, not all, of the posts you have made recently. There were armed black protestors in both Michigan and Minnesota that were allowed to peacefully protest, so the "what-if" black protestors had weapons argument is null. That is a fact. Secondly, I can't argue or provide proof to a scenario (what if majority armed black protestors in Michigan, would cops allow it?) that didn't happen. The Michigan protests didn't devolve into chaos, arson, looting, and murder. That is a fact. Not only did cops allow the many more numbered minority protestors in Minnesota (and later all over the country) to protest, once they turned violent, they still did not get involved and stop it which has led us to where we are now.

One scenario involved a peaceful demonstration and the other was hijacked into anarchy. Again, if you want to have discussions about the problems we're having in this country...i am all for dialogue. That's the only way this will get fixed. But using broad generalized talking points and asserting hypothetical outcomes of scenarios that didn't happen is a waste of time and leads nowhere.

 

[Irish YJ]

For Legacy

Some boogaloo nuts with BLM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“They want their civil war’: Far-right ‘boogaloo’ militants are embedded in the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis.”<br><br>There is a vast amount of new evidence that is pointing to outside people not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BLM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BLM</a> deliberately escalating the protests into violence.<a href="https://t.co/hVw1RrwLa1">https://t.co/hVw1RrwLa1</a></p>— 🇺🇸 𝘗𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘗𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘺 🇳🇱 (@pithypacky) <a href="https://twitter.com/pithypacky/status/1266749369883062274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here's from JJ MacNab, a GW prof and Berkely grad. She's an author and expert on extremism (and a Trump hater)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Boogaloo movement is not cohesive. <br><br>While there are pockets of white supremacist Boogaloos, the younger and bigger groups are generally not. <br><br>While there are Boogaloos that strongly support Trump, the younger and bigger groups hate him.</p>— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1266767564627034121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ACamp1900]

For Legacy

Some boogaloo nuts with BLM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“They want their civil war’: Far-right ‘boogaloo’ militants are embedded in the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis.”<br><br>There is a vast amount of new evidence that is pointing to outside people not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BLM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BLM</a> deliberately escalating the protests into violence.<a href="https://t.co/hVw1RrwLa1">https://t.co/hVw1RrwLa1</a></p>— 🇺🇸 𝘗𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘗𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘺 🇳🇱 (@pithypacky) <a href="https://twitter.com/pithypacky/status/1266749369883062274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here's from JJ MacNab, a GW prof and Berkely grad. She's an author and expert on extremism (and a Trump hater)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Boogaloo movement is not cohesive. <br><br>While there are pockets of white supremacist Boogaloos, the younger and bigger groups are generally not. <br><br>While there are Boogaloos that strongly support Trump, the younger and bigger groups hate him.</p>— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1266767564627034121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I love the assumptions of the last tweet,... it’s more and more common. Voting for trump=white supremacy. There are hundreds of different reasons a person votes how they do. I love the insistence on broad strokes over and over and over again by the very people who seem to constantly state over, and over, and over again that only the other side of the aisle ever does such things.

 

[Legacy]

If you want to have a discussion about Floyd and the problems relating to minority communities/violence in the communities/police violence, I'm all for it. Read the dozen posts I've made discussing the topic today and feel free to chime in, debate me, or disagree with me. I'm sure we can find common ground. I've been having a good discussion with other posters who disagree.

And yes, questioning someone's logic or intentions when they make assertions that are just flat out not true, like some, not all, of the posts you have made recently. There were armed black protestors in both Michigan and Minnesota that were allowed to peacefully protest, so the "what-if" black protestors had weapons argument is null. That is a fact. Secondly, I can't argue or provide proof to a scenario (what if majority armed black protestors in Michigan, would cops allow it?) that didn't happen. The Michigan protests didn't devolve into chaos, arson, looting, and murder. That is a fact. Not only did cops allow the many more numbered minority protestors in Minnesota (and later all over the country) to protest, once they turned violent, they still did not get involved and stop it which has led us to where we are now.

One scenario involved a peaceful demonstration and the other was hijacked into anarchy. Again, if you want to have discussions about the problems we're having in this country...i am all for dialogue. That's the only way this will get fixed. But using broad generalized talking points and asserting hypothetical outcomes of scenarios that didn't happen is a waste of time and leads nowhere.

I thought that was what I emphasized. You should see the distinction made numerous times through these that the peaceful protests are separate, have nothing to do with the opportunists and anarchists no matter which political side. One wasn't "hijacked" which to me implies a generalization that they are somehow connected. Ignoring my major points while trying to justify your assertions on my logic or reason or accusing my statements as outright lies does not evidence any interest in dialogue or that we can reach common ground. That's something I am used to with those who may have differing opinions than mine. They do not end with something like your last statement.

 

[Irish YJ]

I love the assumptions of the last tweet,... it’s more and more common. Voting for trump=white supremacy. There are hundreds of different reasons a person votes how they do. I love the insistence on broad strokes over and over and over again by the very people who seem to constantly state over, and over, and over again that only the other side of the aisle ever does such things.

They're not painting broad strokes, they are full on paint roller and paint spray gun....

My intent really wasn't to point out her conscious or subconscious linkage (although is pretty obvious). It was to use a far left experts own words to squash Legacy's assumptive hypocrisy. Same with the pics of armed AAs that were flexing their 2A rights (the same way the rednecks were, in the same place), while not "protecting" anyone (since he attempted to diminish the other pic I posted by claiming protection). He's not having a good day...