Adidas vs. Nike (Recruiting)

[ND2015]

hahaha I used that as justification a couple posts ago. I got Run DMC and B.o.B. on my Pandora randomly. Two hip hop stars o different eras repping Adidas? Zero repping Nike? Game, set, match.

Well for those who don't follow the rap game Mac Miller is the next big thing and is apart of Wiz Khalifa's crew and his most popular song is about Nikes. The song starts at 1:40.

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[jason_h537]

There is little, if any, reason to base a decision to chose school A, B or C over any other (D, E or F) simply due to the "coolness" of uniforms.

Does Notre Dame need to stoop to uniforms that are "the bees' knees," or "phat" to attract outstanding student athletes? I sure as hell hope not.

This isn't about uniforms but the brand making them. Notre Dame has 1 of the 10 best uniforms and that's not a debate.

 

[phillyirish]

I can't believe people are still talking about this, this is f***ing ridiculous. If a freakin muslim is willing to play at Natore Dame, then I'm pretty sure even the biggest nike fan can get over the "huge lifestyle change" he will have to make by wearing adidas

 

[NankerPhelge]

I read a thread like this, and I can only think about how out-of-touch I must have become with modern culture as I have grown older. I think if, when I were a kid, I would have based my decision on where to play ball on the brand of the uniform, or even what they looked like, my daddy would have disowned me. How shallow can you get?

 

[phgreek]

Why are noobs, AKA people with less than 100 posts, so sprung on this topic?

I find it mindless fodder. Pardon me. I say we switch to Starter brand clothing. Maybe Champion.

Geez.

your dating yourself bro...I wore champion jerseys, and I'm an old bastard...had Rydell pants, pads and helmet until I was a senior (I got the "new" bike pump up), who the hell knows what cletes we had. "Techfit" was wearing a jersey a size too small and having your buds pull it on and off ya...anyway I didn't have matching stuff until college...

Anyway, brands are funny things. Somebody will put more time in, and take some of Nike's apparel business, or a new kid will show up with a new product...in the end, if you chase around the flavor of the week, I see it as a distraction...one more thing to consider. I think you cut a deal to the highest bidder with credible, functional gear, and when that contract is up, you cut another deal...

 

[dshans]

This isn't about uniforms but the brand making them. Notre Dame has 1 of the 10 best uniforms and that's not a debate.

Sorry, Jason, should have added a sentence or two for the sake of clarity.

I was trying to point out the absurdity (in my opinion) of making critical decisions based on the "coolness" of one manufacturer over another when there is little, if any, difference in quality or effectiveness.

Should any of these kids be good enough to play in the NFL, do you think they should pass on signing in the first round to team A and drop to the third round to team B because team B has a tie-in with equipment provider X and team A does not?

Uniform design is a separate matter indeed.

 

[hack15]

i'm a collegiate coach and i believe what company you are with really matters to kids today! i coach softball and we are in the middle of a 4 year deal with mizuno and our kids would much rather have other shoes and bats but unfortunately our hands are tied. like many of us they are creatures of habit and comfort, so they would love to go with equipment they grew up with. if you were to look on the feet of any high school team across the country you will see more nike shoes than any other company. so to say this argument has no merit is incorrect.

GO IRISH!!!

 

[O'Aviles]

Only one brand matters
KangaROOS

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

How about ROOTS....?....

 

[TDHeysus]

I think this is a bigger deal in basketball than it is football. In basketball you got AAU kids, and all these other summer leagues, club leagues, etc. sponsered by shoe companies. that doesnt happen much with football players. These aau, club teams kids are defintely brand specific - ppl like Sonny Vaccaro was always aligned with some shoe company, and the kids that went to his camps have an 'in' with those universities associated with that same brand.

I think the Nike/Adidas issue is very big in college basketball, not so big in college football. I see young footballers into stuff like UnderArmor, more than nike, addidas, etc.

 

[IrishSLC]

I don't think it's the deciding factor for most kids, but definitely a contributor in the minds of 17-18 year-old kids. It's all about presentation and looking sharp. Pop culture, music, professional athletes all play into what kids buy and want. No one does this better than Nike. That Nike owns 99% of major college programs/athletes and every kid wants to be "Like Mike".

Not only are they branded well.. the media covers them as well.

ESPN - Sportscenter Covers it!

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[phgreek]

i'm a collegiate coach and i believe what company you are with really matters to kids today! i coach softball and we are in the middle of a 4 year deal with mizuno and our kids would much rather have other shoes and bats but unfortunately our hands are tied. like many of us they are creatures of habit and comfort, so they would love to go with equipment they grew up with. if you were to look on the feet of any high school team across the country you will see more nike shoes than any other company. so to say this argument has no merit is incorrect.

GO IRISH!!!

Now I'm an old guy, and a better baseballer than footballer so maybe I'm off, but I totally see that rationale in baseball/softball...to me the equipment is so much more integral to the performance...

most football equipment is for safety, save the tacified gloves and cletes. Its not really an active part of your success or failure...(so long as you have an equipment manager that knows how to fit you properly)

Whereas in baseball, change a bat vendor, and I had to spend Hours in the cage (ie Easton had thin handles, others were bulkier, and to get the same bat speed, I needed to drop an inch or choke up)...that changes alot...the cletes, oddly enough that also went directly to being comfortable in the box...if my feet felt funny...more cage time. Cletes in the field never bugged me much, but I was mostly a 3rd basemen, range was limited, all reflexes...the glove, man I only ever had two in my entire life...thats tough to change even within the same brand.

Football...I can recall when my coach made me wear a visor...Yuk...tried the double bar...Yuk...rather get poked in the eye 100 times. Thats the extent of my equipment changes that registered...

I'm with your girls...cletes and bats made a difference to me...no deal with anyone would have made me change my glove ...

I wasn't so intollerant to change on the football side of things...

 

[IrishSLC]

I don't think it's about performance at all. These recruits and high school kids aren't thinking

"I want to go to Oregon over ND because they use Nike and it will help me perform better"

It's more along the lines of...

"Nike looks sweet"

I seriously doubt they are "Nike help me run faster, jump higher, play better..." generation.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I don't believe current uniforms affect current recruits. But I do believe current uniforms affect recruits 10 yrs from now. The uniforms of today may draw young children to grow up fans of certain programs. And when you grow up a fan of a program you usually go there if they offer. But I love our uniforms.

 

[johnnykillz]

Only one brand matters
KangaROOS

Those the shoes with the cool zippers on the side you could stick coins in?

 

[O'Aviles]

yup

 

[jason_h537]

oh and another thing, doesn't everyone remember how superficial we all were as teenagers. C'mon

 

[johnnykillz]

oh and another thing, doesn't everyone remember how superficial we all were as teenagers. C'mon

You got a mouse in your pocket Jason?

 

[jason_h537]

You got a mouse in your pocket Jason?

no i was specifically referring to you

but i was popular in high school so...

 

[GreatGolson]

As a current highschooler, its all about the Nikes, doesnt matter what kind, as long as there is a swoosh on it, you can walk around without getting teased (sad but true)

 

[KPENN]

As a current highschooler, its all about the Nikes, doesnt matter what kind, as long as there is a swoosh on it, you can walk around without getting teased (sad but true)

Has nothing to do with this, but you need another new name. The stars bug me. Lol

 

[GreatGolson]

nothing to see here...

 

[KPENN]

Oh yah, forgot about that

Lol great. Here comes another injury Dayne. Haha

 

[GreatGolson]

I would change it to something like LuckyLou, but i fear for the dear coach's life hahaha