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BilboBaggins said:
The ACC didnt screw ND over. The SEC did. Dont get it twisted.

Join the ACC and run a train on it like Florida State in the 1990s.
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Fucked up their tiebreaker so badly that a team that had no chance of making the playoffs got in over Miami.

Spent all week lobbying hard against us.

Includes absolute dogshit teams like Syracuse and BC that served as an anchor on our SoS.

Given how things shook out it should have been Bama and not Miami that got excluded but the broken ass ACC is responsible for a lot of these conditions.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
The conference where Texas Tech finally won the conference championship? All it took was Nebraska, Texas, OU, Mizzou & aTm leaving. B12 is AAC+
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Oh well....you can be in a dogshit conference and still get in. Tulane and James Madison are living proof
 
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Katzenboyer said:
Yup. Explore exiting the deal. Tell Clemson to go fuck themselves.
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You’re a lawyer right? Can’t we ignore the contract, let them sue us, and watch the courts do nothing. Don’t we have plenty of ammunition to beat them in court?
 
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stpeteirish said:
You’re a lawyer right? Can’t we ignore the contract, let them sue us, and watch the courts do nothing. Don’t we have plenty of ammunition to beat them in court?
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Also a lawyer. It depends on the language in the contract, but it's rarely a good idea to deliberately breach a contract unless you are prepared to pay damages. ND could argue that it has good cause to leave before 2036 whatever, but (again) it would depend on the terms in the contract.
 
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ND fans should absolutely take over Chapel Hill in October and have a giant Fuck You ACC party.

(unless we blow up the ACC deal this offseason)
 
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RockyBoiman said:
Just join the big 12. I’d say acc but fuck em
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You know what...I laughed at this when I first read it, but it is growing on me.
Middle Fingers to ACC, SEC, & Big 2 (OSU + random annual yokel)
We can play both Offense and Defense, it would be an annual ticket to top 4 seed for at least the next few years to come
 
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Difference here between the SEC and the ACC is that the SEC was simply protecting themselves, while the ACC fucked up their own situation with the tiebreak and then dragged down their own partner to save their skin and get a team in the playoff.

The sport is corrupt to kowtow to the SEC (and especially Bama) the way they do. But the ACC is the one that actively harmed us.
 
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Super interested to see how this dan Patrick (fuck him all the way sideways too honestly) interview with Pete is going to go tomorrow. I want venom,… if this is just a shoulder shrug interview i lose some faith in the leadership structure
 
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I'd prefer that we join the Big Ten. It would seem that now is the time to join, before the Big Ten does something really stupid with a Private Equity deal. I would think that ND would need something legal in place before joining to prevent the likelihood of a Private Equity deal in the future.

If the Private Equity deal goes through, I don't think we will ever join.
 
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What hurt us more than anything was shitting on the ACC teams we played on ESPN and giving the commentators a full two quarters to tell everybody about how Miami "dominated" us in a 3 point road game
 
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stlnd01 said:
Difference here between the SEC and the ACC is that the SEC was simply protecting themselves, while the ACC fucked up their own situation with the tiebreak and then dragged down their own partner to save their skin and get a team in the playoff.

The sport is corrupt to kowtow to the SEC (and especially Bama) the way they do. But the ACC is the one that actively harmed us.
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Except, it’s never just the SEC “protecting themselves” or them “getting kowtowed to”.

The SEC is ACTIVELY ENGAGED in collusion with ESPN to net those two entities the most money. They will do whatever scheming, conniving, AND felonious activities that it takes, with no shame or even fear of consequence. They are literal villains.

The ACC in this story is a flunky who ESPN and the SEC used to do their dirty work. Are they fuckstick bad guys too? Yes, of course, but they are random pickpockets compared to the SEC/ESPNs Capone.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
I'd prefer that we join the Big Ten. It would seem that now is the time to join, before the Big Ten does something really stupid with a Private Equity deal. I would think that ND would need something legal in place before joining to prevent the likelihood of a Private Equity deal in the future.

If the Private Equity deal goes through, I don't think we will ever join.
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If we must join a conference, I'd much prefer the Big Ten as well. The timing of the private equity deal is a good point, as that seems like a bad deal for elite programs like ours. Maybe we're a big enough prize that they lose interest. Or maybe USC and Michigan say screw that, and join us in independence and the mega-conference era is over nearly as soon as it began. (wishful thinking, particularly on the Michigan front, perhaps, but a fellow can dream.)
 
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ND likely doesn’t do anything regarding the ACC once the dust settles but IF ND were to affiliate w/ another conference for the sake of non-football sports, the B1G is the obvious answer. For starters, it’s one of the last two respectable conferences. It’s an academic fit. It includes ND’s biggest rival after it absorbed most of the P12. And best of all, it’s affiliated w/ Fox & NBC so the connection to ESPN via the ACC agreement would go away.

Don’t we all agree it’s coming to either one or two super conferences anyway? It’ll be similar to the NFL w/ one network (ESPN) broadcasting most of the SEC games & another (Fox &/or NBC) broadcasting most of the B1G games.
 
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What happens to the ACC in the near-term if ND finds a way to end their scheduling agreement and withdraws in other sports?
 
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tussin said:
What happens to the ACC in the near-term if ND finds a way to end their scheduling agreement and withdraws in other sports?
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At a minimum the ACC loses 2-3 of its top ~5 tv viewership football games a year and the overall SoS of ACC teams decreases below it's already abysmal level. It would almost guarantee that the conference doesn't survive next round of realignments.
 
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I honestly have just lived my ND fan life with the assumption that ND will stay IND for as long as they possibly can. With that said, given how gigantic the B1G and SEC are and how much leverage they seem to have, is there a window of opportunity for ND that could close? I understand ND is a giant brand and they'd take us in willingly, but hypothetically, is there a point where the ND leaves the ACC and the B1G and SEC say no thanks? If they wanted to screw ND, that's exactly what they'd do. I don't see it happening. Just spitballing. Overconfidence can be a killer. Trying to cover all basis here for better understanding of the landscape.
 
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BleedBlueGold said:
I honestly have just lived my ND fan life with the assumption that ND will stay IND for as long as they possibly can. With that said, given how gigantic the B1G and SEC are and how much leverage they seem to have, is there a window of opportunity for ND that could close? I understand ND is a giant brand and they'd take us in willingly, but hypothetically, is there a point where the ND leaves the ACC and the B1G and SEC say no thanks? If they wanted to screw ND, that's exactly what they'd do. I don't see it happening. Just spitballing. Overconfidence can be a killer. Trying to cover all basis here for better understanding of the landscape.
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Can't lie, that thought crossed my mind today. I think right now we would have significant leverage but it probably is less than what it was prior to the Big Ten's expansion west. But is there a point where the conferences would be indifferent?
 
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