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IrishInOntario said:
If they take Toilolo it better be as the 3rd DT in the class. That's an acceptable take, IMO. It's not if he's one of the two they take... Unless you're referring to Marcus Fakatou? He's an obvious take and if ND can somehow land Folorunsho, Fakatou and Parks in the same class that would be DL haul I can ever remember them having. Ultimately, I think they get two of the three.

Sabb and Henderson are among my realistic reaches and I would agree that ND's chances with them are much lower than they are with some other players on the list.

If you miss on Henderson, however, you better hit on one of... Joakim Gouda, Toa Satele, Roman Igwebuike or Brayton Feister as a backup option. Guys like Noah Glover and Mekahi Allen are not sufficient replacements to be #1 LBs in a class of this quality, IMO. Especially in a two man class.

Similarly with Sabb, if you miss the replacement has to be adequate. I'm talking Easton Royal, Osani Gayles, Julian Caldwell, or at worst, Khalil Taylor. The likes of Quenten Burrell or Tyler Fryman aren't going to cut it in what projects to be a three man class.
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Unfortunately that's what usually seems to happen in our classes. Royal I would take before any of them by then somehow we end up with a guy like Fryman.
 
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Unfortunately that's what usually seems to happen in our classes. Royal I would take before any of them by then somehow we end up with a guy like Fryman.
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A guy the caliber of Fryman is a fine take as the #3 WR in a 3 man group. If a top 250 caliber guy is your 3rd WR, you've done fine. The other 2, however, should be bonafide top 100 types though, ideally with variance in skill set.
 
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Hypothetical: a booster comes to you and says we will give you 3 blank checks-one on offense, one on defense, one on whoever. Who you asking them to write it to? Realistic targets only
 
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Hypothetical: a booster comes to you and says we will give you 3 blank checks-one on offense, one on defense, one on whoever. Who you asking them to write it to? Realistic targets only
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Assuming it means they say yes?
Fakatou
Zyron Forstall
Albert Simien

Then lock up Parks, Sesay, Mekhai Brown, and Folorunsho or Aidan O’Neil for the D-Line and Von Brandt and Wagner on the O-Line. O-line and D-line driven program, as Coach Freeman says.
 
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allenm5333 said:
Haha. I wouldn’t consider these 3 realistic but I appreciate the participation
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If you’re dealing with blank checks, they're all realistic. My answer would be different if I was limiting myself only to guys I think we get anyhow, but this being what locks it up.

I did try to limit to guys that at one point were showing interest in ND.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
If you’re dealing with blank checks, they're all realistic. My answer would be different if I was limiting myself only to guys I think we get anyhow, but this being what locks it up.

I did try to limit to guys that at one point were showing interest in ND.
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I get it. If I was playing this way, I like your list. I would probably put Sales in before Royal. Just bc I want that big boundary wr finally
 
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Irish du Nord said:
Assuming it means they say yes?
Fakatou
Zyron Forstall
Albert Simien

Then lock up Parks, Sesay, Mekhai Brown, and Folorunsho or Aidan O’Neil for the D-Line and Von Brandt and Wagner on the O-Line. O-line and D-line driven program, as Coach Freeman says.
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You pretty much stole my thoughts man. Fakatou and Simien made my top 2. I may go with a WR over Forstall but that is me thinking about the other DEs we seem to have a shot at with already
 
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allenm5333 said:
You pretty much stole my thoughts man. Fakatou and Simien made my top 2. I may go with a WR over Forstall but that is me thinking about the other DEs we seem to have a shot at with already
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If a booster gave me 3 blank checks for guys that seriously considering / are seriously considering Notre Dame this cycle... And I'm intentionally leaving out players I think ND will land without a blank check... Give me...

1. DJ Jacobs
2. Albert Simien
3. Josh Dobson

If I couldn't have any of those top 3, my next 5 in order would be....

1. Kemon Spell
2. Easton Royal (I admit it's a stretch)
3. Xavier Sabb
4. Marcus Fakatou
5. Kaden Henderson

Note: By the end of the cycle Jake Nawrot might very well vault way up my list as I think from a fit perspective he's nearly perfect in terms of what ND needs at QB in the class to follow up Teddy Jarrard.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
If a booster gave me 3 blank checks for guys that seriously considering / are seriously considering Notre Dame this cycle... And I'm intentionally leaving out players I think ND will land without a blank check... Give me...

1. DJ Jacobs
2. Albert Simien
3. Josh Dobson

If I couldn't have any of those top 3, my next 5 in order would be....

1. Kemon Spell
2. Easton Royal (I admit it's a stretch)
3. Xavier Sabb
4. Marcus Fakatou
5. Kaden Henderson

Note: By the end of the cycle Jake Nawrot might very well vault way up my list as I think from a fit perspective he's nearly perfect in terms of what ND needs at QB in the class to follow up Teddy Jarrard.
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Jacobs was another guy I considered. Love Spell’s film. But I would rather invest in OL. But get it
 
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Jacobs was another guy I considered. Love Spell’s film. But I would rather invest in OL. But get it
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Yeah, Simien is too good not to list which is why he made my top 3. That said, ND's OL room is 20 players right now and even if it does face eventual attrition via the Transfer Portal (which seems inevitable) the foundational talent base is top 3 nationally and I don't think there is any credible argument to that point. The depth of talent is elite. The question is whether or not ND's coaching will maximize their potential and consistently get the best 5 on the field.

I don't like to look at college football in greater than 2 year stretches anymore due to movement rules and the potential for your roster to change drastically over that time. Therefore, with that said, if you pick through ND's current OL that are likely to be in South Bend for as least the 2026 and 2027 seasons and focus on the cream of the crop, the following group is nearly unmatched nationally...

Charles Jagusah
Guerby Lambert
Will Black
Matty Augustine
Grayson Mckeogh
Gregory Patrick
Joe Otting

IMO, those 7 guys that should be in South Bend for at least 2 more years are an incredibly strong foundation for the OL group to be built on. I think that James Halter is another top of the board guy in 2027, so if they can pair him with a Layton Von Brandt they've done very well in maintaining the talent level. If they add someone the likes of Simien, they've absolutely crushed it.

The player that I'm interested in the back story on regarding ND's lack of traction is Oluwasemilore Olubobola. On paper he's the kind of kid ND is usually at least heavily in the mix on, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this cycle. The other kid I like is Jake Hildebrand from Basha, but it doesn't look like ND will be a fit there either.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
Yeah, Simien is too good not to list which is why he made my top 3. That said, ND's OL room is 20 players right now and even if it does face eventual attrition via the Transfer Portal (which seems inevitable) the foundational talent base is top 3 nationally and I don't think there is any credible argument to that point. The depth of talent is elite. The question is whether or not ND's coaching will maximize their potential and consistently get the best 5 on the field.

I don't like to look at college football in greater than 2 year stretches anymore due to movement rules and the potential for your roster to change drastically over that time. Therefore, with that said, if you pick through ND's current OL that are likely to be in South Bend for as least the 2026 and 2027 seasons and focus on the cream of the crop, the following group is nearly unmatched nationally...

Charles Jagusah
Guerby Lambert
Will Black
Matty Augustine
Grayson Mckeogh
Gregory Patrick
Joe Otting

IMO, those 7 guys that should be in South Bend for at least 2 more years are an incredibly strong foundation for the OL group to be built on. I think that James Halter is another top of the board guy in 2027, so if they can pair him with a Layton Von Brandt they've done very well in maintaining the talent level. If they add someone the likes of Simien, they've absolutely crushed it.

The player that I'm interested in the back story on regarding ND's lack of traction is Oluwasemilore Olubobola. On paper he's the kind of kid ND's usually at least heavily in the mix on, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this cycle. The other kid I like is Jake Hildebrand from Basha, but it doesn't look like ND will be a fit there either.
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Very fair point about the OL. I definitely evaluate things at a 2 years at a time thing as well. That is why I almost put the LB Henderson in the top 3.
 
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Wiltfong with a prediction for the good guys :)
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Yeah, I've been expecting Cooper in the class for a while now. IMO, he HAS to be the #3 WR of a three man group. If Cooper is the floor as your Boundary WR and you recruit a Slot WR and Field WR that project above him, you've done well... But if Cooper is your #1 or #2... yeah, no.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
A guy the caliber of Fryman is a fine take as the #3 WR in a 3 man group. If a top 250 caliber guy is your 3rd WR, you've done fine. The other 2, however, should be bonafide top 100 types though, ideally with variance in skill set.
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Generally yes, but as a "Baseball first" guy is feel better about him as the 4th guy in a 4 player class aa opposed to the 3rd in 3. He had a helluva Jr year but it was KY and I've never been crazy about their WR talent pool.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
Yeah, Simien is too good not to list which is why he made my top 3. That said, ND's OL room is 20 players right now and even if it does face eventual attrition via the Transfer Portal (which seems inevitable) the foundational talent base is top 3 nationally and I don't think there is any credible argument to that point. The depth of talent is elite. The question is whether or not ND's coaching will maximize their potential and consistently get the best 5 on the field.

I don't like to look at college football in greater than 2 year stretches anymore due to movement rules and the potential for your roster to change drastically over that time. Therefore, with that said, if you pick through ND's current OL that are likely to be in South Bend for as least the 2026 and 2027 seasons and focus on the cream of the crop, the following group is nearly unmatched nationally...

Charles Jagusah
Guerby Lambert
Will Black
Matty Augustine
Grayson Mckeogh
Gregory Patrick
Joe Otting

IMO, those 7 guys that should be in South Bend for at least 2 more years are an incredibly strong foundation for the OL group to be built on. I think that James Halter is another top of the board guy in 2027, so if they can pair him with a Layton Von Brandt they've done very well in maintaining the talent level. If they add someone the likes of Simien, they've absolutely crushed it.

The player that I'm interested in the back story on regarding ND's lack of traction is Oluwasemilore Olubobola. On paper he's the kind of kid ND is usually at least heavily in the mix on, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this cycle. The other kid I like is Jake Hildebrand from Basha, but it doesn't look like ND will be a fit there either.
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Watch his film? Think we got a shot? Seems like a quiet recruitment
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Oh yeah, dude has enormous upside. Very Guerby Lambert like in that respect.

Hoping his recruitment mirrors Lambert's as well where he remains quietly interested and jumps on board when the time is right.
 
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As an interesting aside to the above discussion, ISD has the following players rated highest on the board:
Albert Simien-96
KJ Green-96
Jaden Henderson-96
Zyron Forstall-97
John Meredith-99
David Folorunsho-99(!)

A couple surprising ones to me:
Joakim Gouda-94
Gavin Williams-94
 
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