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Irish5Saint said:
Where do people get this notion that football is being held to some different standard on this? If you’re going to argue certain people at ND don’t want the football team to do well, then take off your tinfoil hat and touch grass.

Frankly it seems more like a coaching decision by Freeman and Bowden.
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I think the notion comes from the fact that a team with 85 scholarship spots (football) has historically taken significantly less undergrad transfers than a team with significantly less scholarship spots (basketball @12). I don't think it's crazy to think there is a double standard or, at the very least, different standards.

Also, please stop saying "touch grass". I'm embarrassed for you.
 
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Irish5Saint said:
Where do people get this notion that football is being held to some different standard on this? If you’re going to argue certain people at ND don’t want the football team to do well, then take off your tinfoil hat and touch grass.

Frankly it seems more like a coaching decision by Freeman and Bowden.
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I can't speak for him, but the issue might be that the basketball team brought in a transfer who was 2 years out of HS, and the football team hasn't been able to do that. Granted, the player came from NW, an elite academic institution.
 
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Free Manera said:
Prister flat out said in his article this week that when you see the names transferring into ND for 2025 you won't be so concerned about the recruiting class or roster holes. That statement along with Brice's hint at multiple SEC guys coming in?

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We might be doing some tampering.

And I'm all in for it!
 
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Even with the scholarship increase I think most teams will still settle around 85. It's happening in basketball too. Coaches aren't going to start recruiting guys who aren't going to play and then transfer, huge waste of time. I think even for the major programs it will be around 90 to 95 with most of the overflow being redshirted freshmen.
 
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LifelongFan said:
Even with the scholarship increase I think most teams will still settle around 85. It's happening in basketball too. Coaches aren't going to start recruiting guys who aren't going to play and then transfer, huge waste of time. I think even for the major programs it will be around 90 to 95 with most of the overflow being redshirted freshmen.
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I think for a team like ND, the final 95-105 will be walk-ons that they give scholarships too.

Dudes that won’t transfer out that will be integral members of scout teams and special teams.
 
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NDMatt91 said:
I can't speak for him, but the issue might be that the basketball team brought in a transfer who was 2 years out of HS, and the football team hasn't been able to do that. Granted, the player came from NW, an elite academic institution.
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Hasn’t or wouldn’t?
 
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LifelongFan said:
Even with the scholarship increase I think most teams will still settle around 85. It's happening in basketball too. Coaches aren't going to start recruiting guys who aren't going to play and then transfer, huge waste of time. I think even for the major programs it will be around 90 to 95 with most of the overflow being redshirted freshmen.
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Yup. You have a limited amount of practice time. You want to decrease someone else's reps to bring in #99, #100 etc? Another personality to manage in the locker room. Teams will exceed 85 to a small degree, but I can't imagine a team trying to keep 105 full ride scholarship guys happy and developing.
 
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ThePiombino said:
I think the notion comes from the fact that a team with 85 scholarship spots (football) has historically taken significantly less undergrad transfers than a team with significantly less scholarship spots (basketball @12). I don't think it's crazy to think there is a double standard or, at the very least, different standards.

Also, please stop saying "touch grass". I'm embarrassed for you.
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So you literally are alleging a conspiracy.

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Irish5Saint said:
Where do people get this notion that football is being held to some different standard on this? If you’re going to argue certain people at ND don’t want the football team to do well, then take off your tinfoil hat and touch grass.

Frankly it seems more like a coaching decision by Freeman and Bowden.
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This predates Freeman and Bowden by a lot. Although the transfer portal is relatively new, transferring isn't. ND football has never been able to get sophomores, juniors, or seniors past admissions.

Also doesn't it just seem unlikely that the football staff would elect to cut their transfer pool by 3/4 just because they.... what? Don't like sophomores or juniors for some reason?
 
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ThePiombino said:
I think the notion comes from the fact that a team with 85 scholarship spots (football) has historically taken significantly less undergrad transfers than a team with significantly less scholarship spots (basketball @12). I don't think it's crazy to think there is a double standard or, at the very least, different standards.
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I'd agree there may be different standards at play. Not in any conspiracy way but just by the nature of the sports.

College basketball has long been dirtier than college football, (which is saying something!). I think that's because it's easier to bend the rules for a team of 12 - i.e. keep one or two guys eligible or paid or whatever, and then be able to cover it up - than for a team of 85. Also in football almost no individual player is indispensable, whereas basketball teams often rise and fall with one guy. So you're more likely to do what you must to keep that one guy on the team.

I think the different standards re: transfers in football and basketball may come from a version of that. Not in a nefarious way, just that admissions has evolved to be more flexible with individual basketball transfers because they're more of a special case, whereas in football there's a lot more fish in the sea. If that's the case, I suspect Freeman and Bowden will help the admissions office keep evolving. They seem like persuasive fellows.
 
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LifelongFan said:
Even with the scholarship increase I think most teams will still settle around 85. It's happening in basketball too. Coaches aren't going to start recruiting guys who aren't going to play and then transfer, huge waste of time. I think even for the major programs it will be around 90 to 95 with most of the overflow being redshirted freshmen.
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Wonder how many of the higher level walk on players will fill in those remaining scholarship places. Probably know they aren't going to transfer and will still practice hard, but now get their school paid for. I
 
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CanadalovesND said:
I think for a team like ND, the final 95-105 will be walk-ons that they give scholarships too.

Dudes that won’t transfer out that will be integral members of scout teams and special teams.
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Yep and 85-95 will be guys who would have been processed out under the old (85) rules
 
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