2024 WR Coach Search

[Jiggafini19Deux]

There's not a ton of chatter on the Wiscy boards about it yet, but from what there is....it sounds like no.

Popular among players but they weren't impressed with the WR room this year.

Further proves how dense college football fans are.

Can they get a year and a full recruiting cycle to change personnel to a modern offense from three decades worth of run heavy offense?

 

[Irish#1]

At what point does Fickell get pissed at MF for stealing his assistants and stop answering his calls? Brown is AHC @ Wisconsin... so presumably he would want more than just the WR position at ND?

Maybe he brings CJ Williams with him...

Money can appease a pseudo title.

 

[Irish#1]

Might be a while.

There's a couple of coaches in that pic that know how to score.

 

[Reaper97]

The problem is that's a bullshit story. We know it's a bullshit story because Swarbrick agreed that the early reporting about the buyout being the obstacle that prevented a deal was accurate. There's no getting around that. If the real story is Ludwig was actually the real obstacle - that his interest in ND wasn't earnest -then Ludwig was the obstacle. It wasn't the buyout. In that scenario, there is no way JS would have confirmed the buyout was the obstacle. He would have point-blank said the obstacle was something other than the buyout. He may not have outright said Ludwig was trying to use ND as leverage for a better deal with Utah. He may have said something like, "The buyout wasn't the obstacle. There were other obstacles but the buyout itself wasn't one of them," and that would be an absolutely true statement if it was true that Ludwig and Utah were misleading ND about the buyout.

I don't doubt there is a story going around in ND circles about Ludwig being misleading, but I believe that is a face-saving bullshit story that is now being told to obscure what really happened. Swarbrick confirmed the buyout itself was the obstacle that prevented ND from making a deal while Ludwig was on campus. There is no getting around that.

Swarbrick has done that (intentionally) before, (mislead what happened).
He is a very savvy man & lawyer.
The buyout was an issue, not because of the price, but because how it was purposely misled to ND.
ND could have, and probably would have, paid the buyout, if it was given to them properly in good faith the first time.
The “buyout issue” was the fact that Ludwig’s representation sent ND an outdated contract the first time.
So no, it’s not “bullshit,” or “face saving.”

 

[bumpdaddy]

Swarbrick has done that (intentionally) before, (mislead what happened).
He is a very savvy man & lawyer.
The buyout was an issue, not because of the price, but because how it was purposely misled to ND.
ND could have, and probably would have, paid the buyout, if it was given to them properly in good faith the first time.
The “buyout issue” was the fact that Ludwig’s representation sent ND an outdated contract the first time.
So no, it’s not “bullshit,” or “face saving.”

Yes, it is for the reasons I gave. Also, Sampson reported the details of Ludwig's contract were already public.

Swarbrick is savvy but it would not at all be savvy to agree the buyout was the obstacle when the actual obstacle was the party he was negotiating with was being deceptive. If the deception story makes sense to you then that's on you.

 

[Reaper97]

Yes, it is for the reasons I gave. Also, Sampson reported the details of Ludwig's contract were already public.

Swarbrick is savvy but it would not at all be savvy to agree the buyout was the obstacle when the actual obstacle was the party he was negotiating with was being deceptive. If the deception story makes sense to you then that's on you.

Nothing’s on me.
Sampson has also said the details are murky.
You can’t “report” something, then turn around & say the details are murky.
And it’s murky because a contract being public doesn’t mean it’s the correct, updated one. It just means it’s a contract, not the current one. ND received a contract from his representatives. Which one do you think ND should take as accurate? One that’s “out in the public,” or one from the actual source?

 

[EvilleIrish]

This might be as underwhelming as the OC debacle.

 

[PutuporShutup]

At what point does Fickell get pissed at MF for stealing his assistants and stop answering his calls? Brown is AHC @ Wisconsin... so presumably he would want more than just the WR position at ND?

Maybe he brings CJ Williams with him...

who else did he take? I know we got Gino but it was assumed Fickel after bowl was going elsewhere and wanted different OC

 

[arrowryan]

This might be as underwhelming as the OC debacle.

Not even close

 

[PutuporShutup]

Might be a while.

I want whatever Freeman was having before this picture was taken!!!

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Mike Brown | Football Coach | Wisconsin Badgers

Mike Brown officially joined the Wisconsin staff on Jan. 4, 2023 as the Badgers’ associate head coach and wide receivers coach. Brown arrived in Madison having served

uwbadgers.com

Young dude who had a cup of coffee in the NFL. The three years at Cincinnati should really be the area of focus.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Not even close

From names like Shepard and Hartline to in just a few hours some guy we have never heard of? To me it's equivalent.

 

[arrowryan]

From names like Shepard and Hartline to in just a few hours some guy we have never heard of? To me it's equivalent.

Why would Hartline even entertain that idea lol.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Why would Hartline even entertain that idea lol.

I'm not saying he entertained it. I'm talking about the reporting done from the ND side.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Why would Hartline even entertain that idea lol.

tis the season, everyone is watching hallmark and all the "hope & belief"

 

[bumpdaddy]

Nothing’s on me.
Sampson has also said the details are murky.
You can’t “report” something, then turn around & say the details are murky.
And it’s murky because a contract being public doesn’t mean it’s the correct, updated one. It just means it’s a contract, not the current one. ND received a contract from his representatives. Which one do you think ND should take as accurate? One that’s “out in the public,” or one from the actual source?

If you are going to ask rhetorical questions then so will I.

Why would Swarbrick confirm the buyout was the obstacle when the actual obstacle was the other party he was dealing with was being deceptive? I never said JS confirmed the "price" of the buyout was the obstacle. I just said he confirmed the buyout was the obstacle. A buyout and a deception about a buyout are NOT the same things. Why would he agree to the buyout itself being the obstacle, which is a false statement in the scenario you gave, when the real reason was the deception about the buyout?

Why would JS also confirm that, after the buyout debacle, ND later agreed to the higher-than-disclosed buyout amount? Why would ND continue to pursue someone who was being overtly deceptive with them?

Jack is savvy, but in this whole ordeal how could his specific handling of the OC search still be considered savvy when the end result is we ended up with Gerad Parker as the OC?

 

[NDdomer2]

He said "Just to be clear: Jamarcus Shephard is my best guess for Notre Dame's next receivers coach."

Smoke. Loy posted just now he's a very real possibility.

Freeman thinks everyone he's worked with is the best. He lives in a fish bowl.

lol 1.5 hours between

 

[Calabrese's People]

Freeman doing a great job of building Fickells first coaching staff as Notre Dame HC...

 

[NDFAN2008]

I gurantee Chansi leaving is more so because he thought their should be a change at OC and didn't agree with the play calling versus players not liking how he coached.

 

[Irish#1]

If you are going to ask rhetorical questions then so will I.

Why would Swarbrick confirm the buyout was the obstacle when the actual obstacle was the other party he was dealing with was being deceptive? I never said JS confirmed the "price" of the buyout was the obstacle. I just said he confirmed the buyout was the obstacle. A buyout and a deception about a buyout are NOT the same things. Why would he agree to the buyout itself being the obstacle, which is a false statement in the scenario you gave, when the real reason was the deception about the buyout?

Why would JS also confirm that, after the buyout debacle, ND later agreed to the higher-than-disclosed buyout amount? Why would ND continue to pursue someone who was being overtly deceptive with them?

Jack is savvy, but in this whole ordeal how could his specific handling of the OC search still be considered savvy when the end result is we ended up with Gerad Parker as the OC?

Nothing’s on me.
Sampson has also said the details are murky.
You can’t “report” something, then turn around & say the details are murky.
And it’s murky because a contract being public doesn’t mean it’s the correct, updated one. It just means it’s a contract, not the current one. ND received a contract from his representatives. Which one do you think ND should take as accurate? One that’s “out in the public,” or one from the actual source?

Well looks like we'll have another booking at the Irsay Y very soon.

 

[Lberry]

It does seem like time is of the essence given the rumblings of ND's WR depth being pillaged come Monday. A WR coach doesn't have to be the home run a HC/OC/DC have to be, so hoping they can move quickly on a good coach.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

It does seem like time is of the essence given the rumblings of ND's WR depth being pillaged come Monday. A WR coach doesn't have to be the home run a HC/OC/DC have to be, so hoping they can move quickly on a good coach.

Depends on the honest truth behind how the new coach will be received by the players we’re potentially losing.

Worst case is we settle, and then the players we rushed the process for transfer out anyway.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Been in bed the last few days with the flu and I’m now catching up
-everyone is staying
-stucky fired
-all receivers will leave if Stuckey stays
-all receivers are leaving allegedly
-we have multiple names at receivers coach
- Loy reports what we like to hear “yeah!!!”
- Loy reports what we don’t like to hear “he sucks!!!!”

Did I miss anything?

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Been in bed the last few days with the flu and I’m now catching up
-everyone is staying
-stucky fired
-all receivers will leave if Stuckey stays
-all receivers are leaving allegedly
-we have multiple names at receivers coach
- Loy reports what we like to hear “yeah!!!”
- Loy reports what we don’t like to hear “he sucks!!!!”

Did I miss anything?

Yep, we are still discussing Ludwig, and Porker can't coach.

 

[Calabrese's People]

We've got Wreck-it Ralph organising the Offensive side so Freemans gonna have to spoon feed him.

 

[thekid33]

There's not a ton of chatter on the Wiscy boards about it yet, but from what there is....it sounds like no.

Popular among players but they weren't impressed with the WR room this year.

Until this year Wisconsin ran an offense that was predicted on running and the TE (sound familiar?).

So, I wouldn't have expected massive upgrades to the position in one year.

That being said, I have no idea if he's an upgrade if it ends up being him.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Been in bed the last few days with the flu and I’m now catching up
-everyone is staying
-stucky fired
-all receivers will leave if Stuckey stays
-all receivers are leaving allegedly
-we have multiple names at receivers coach
- Loy reports what we like to hear “yeah!!!”
- Loy reports what we don’t like to hear “he sucks!!!!”

Did I miss anything?

Riley Leonard

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Yep, we are still discussing Ludwig, and Porker can't coach.

Got it. Thought it was a fever dream. I’m going back bed. Wake me up when we start talking about the direction of the s&c program…..

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Riley Leonard

At one point in my reading, I assumed he was already enrolled. Now I’m reading that board members are ready to revolt when TVD has a 574 area code.

 

[tko]

Been in bed the last few days with the flu and I’m now catching up
-everyone is staying
-stucky fired
-all receivers will leave if Stuckey stays
-all receivers are leaving allegedly
-we have multiple names at receivers coach
- Loy reports what we like to hear “yeah!!!”
- Loy reports what we don’t like to hear “he sucks!!!!”

Did I miss anything?

Don't forget Howard from KSU was locked and loaded and ND says they are going in a different direction. They will likely strike out on Leonard because that's what happens around here.