2023 - State of the Recruiting Class

[Bluto]

…but we least we have high GPAs!

At the end of the day that’s kind of the point with going to college, right?

 

[ColinKSU]

At the end of the day that’s kind of the point with going to college, right?

Of course! As long as that’s what you prioritize as a football program, then there aren’t any issues.

 

[Irishdrunk]

LOL who cares about the average score when 8 other programs were better than us?? Its relative not to ND but to our competition!

 

[irishff1014]

It’s still crazy that some of the players are good young people. And one of them would fall to us. The only team in the top 10 without a 5 star.

 

[Dale]

LOL who cares about the average score when 8 other programs were better than us?? Its relative not to ND but to our competition!

Well a whole website already gives us the team rankings, so just reproducing the same thing isn’t new info and would be redundant. This is helpful new info.

 

[irishff1014]

LOL who cares about the average score when 8 other programs were better than us?? Its relative not to ND but to our competition!

It does make a difference. We are 5th in average player ranking but 9th in team total.

 

[1rishftw]

should we be watching anyone else? is nd a major player for any blue chippers?

 

[ColinKSU]

should we be watching anyone else? is nd a major player for any blue chippers?

No.

 

[IrishSpartan]

If we can’t get top 50 players because of NIL there might need to be some movement when it comes to portal policy. I know people are tired of hearing this but I don’t know how you can be super successful without either.

 

[Irish4life]

LOL who cares about the average score when 8 other programs were better than us?? Its relative not to ND but to our competition!

We're top 5 in average player ranking. FWIW.

 

[Irish4life]

No.

That's more like it. Embracing it!

 

[Dale]

If we can’t get top 50 players navies of NIL there might need to be some movement when it comes to portal policy. I know people are tired of hearing this but I don’t know how you can be super successful without either.

*Signs Top 50 prospect and transfer portal receiver today*

 

[ColinKSU]

*Signs Top 50 prospect and transfer portal receiver today*

A sixth year graduate transfer senior and a third year junior transfer are two different things, and one is *almost* impossible to do at Notre Dame today.

That’s the gap ND needs to erase because nearly every other school in major college football is using it to transform their teams.

 

[IrishSpartan]

*Signs Top 50 prospect and transfer portal receiver today*

This only going to get worse. Wouldn’t doubt it’s a top 50 then top 100

 

[Dale]

A sixth year graduate transfer senior and a third year junior transfer are two different things, and one is *almost* impossible to do at Notre Dame today.

That’s the gap ND needs to erase because nearly every other school in major college football is using it to transform their teams.

Almost every other school also loses talent at a higher rate than ND.

It’s all inflow and outflow.

Now your response is gonna be we are gonna start losing more. And I’ll say well we haven’t yet and haven’t been and you’ll say we will and that’ll be the end of it.

 

[ColinKSU]

Almost every other school also loses talent at a higher rate than ND.

And I bet they replace them faster too.

I genuinely don’t understand how someone could not see ND’s stance on the portal as an issue. They just straight up can’t take nearly every undergrad in the portal because the university won’t admit them.

What happens if they don’t hire MF and lose a ton of last year’s class, and major numbers from the current roster? They can’t hit the portal hard, so like … what do they do? It’s the death penalty.

 

[Dale]

And I bet they replace them faster too.

I genuinely don’t understand how someone could not see ND’s stance on the portal as an issue. They just straight up can’t take nearly every undergrad in the portal because the university won’t admit them.

What happens if they don’t hire MF and lose a ton of last year’s class, and major numbers from the current roster? They can’t hit the portal hard, so like … what do they do?

What happens when everything goes wrong and we rewrite history? Lol.

Listen we rarely see things the same. I just posted a factual statement and two responses later you’re rewriting doomsday. Just agree to disagree.

 

[ColinKSU]

What happens when everything goes wrong and we rewrite history?

That’s not an answer though. But I get it, because the university doesn’t have an answer either.

And that’s the problem!

 

[irishff1014]

Almost every other school also loses talent at a higher rate than ND.

It’s all inflow and outflow.

Now your response is gonna be we are gonna start losing more. And I’ll say well we haven’t yet and haven’t been and you’ll say we will and that’ll be the end of it.

Because 65 to 70% of the athletes are athlete students not student athletes.

 

[Dale]

That’s not an answer though.

BUT WE DID HIRE FREEMAN AND HE DID KEEP THE ROSTER AND HE DID LAND A GREAT CLASS AND WE HAVENT LOST EVERYONE TO THE PORTAL. REALITY.

/end response

 

[TorontoGold]

Because 65 to 70% of the athletes are athlete students not student athletes.

How do you arrive at that figure.

 

[Reaper97]

Because 65 to 70% of the athletes are athlete students not student athletes.

Huh?
You mean football players?
About 95% of athletes in college, across all sports at all schools, are student-athletes.

 

[BeatSC]

Is it me or have we shot on Kelly for being a below average recruiter and he’s about to outdo Marcus in his first year. Will probably smoke him in the transfer portal as well. Oh well. It was looking good for a while there. Some of these pussy recruits want the easy way out with easier curriculum, less position competitors and better weather. We need a watch list for the defectors so some of us poor sports can route for the to fail.

 

[ColinKSU]

What happens when everything goes wrong and we rewrite history? Lol.

Listen we rarely see things the same. I just posted a factual statement and two responses later you’re rewriting doomsday. Just agree to disagree.

I’m totally fine with you not agreeing with me. Of course you’re allowed to see things differently than I do. I’ve never insulted someone personally for seeing things differently than I do, unlike some others of this board who can’t handle disagreement.

But it’s silly to say a scenario that literally happens to every program undergoing a coaching transition in today’s game is unrealistic. This happens *everywhere* and it it happens to championship programs as much as it happens to MAC schools.

LSU had 39 scholarship players for its bowl game after they fired Coach O. Brian Kelly brought in 16 players from the portal to help get the roster healthy again.

It isn’t a matter of Notre Dame not wanting to do that. They can’t do that! And it’s in the program’s best interest that they figure out a solution to this before it becomes their reality.

 

[NDPhilly]

you can’t compare recruiting at LSU and ND. Kelly would have had a class in the high teens this year without freeman at DC.

 

[CanadalovesND]

You can see what Freeman has done, compared to Kelly. And if you count 2022 class as Kelly's class you are simply wrong.

 

[Dale]

LSU had 39 scholarship players for its bowl game after they fired Coach O

Not this asinine figure again. My god.

 

[Sea Turtle]

you can’t compare recruiting at LSU and ND. Kelly would have had a class in the high teens this year without freeman at DC.

Hence, why he left.

And why Freeman will leave in a few years.

 

[Reaper97]

you can’t compare recruiting at LSU and ND. Kelly would have had a class in the high teens this year without freeman at DC.

I don’t know.
BK was good about moving on from certain kids & just getting the solid ones in that 150-200 range.

You can see what Freeman has done, compared to Kelly. And if you count 2022 class as Kelly's class you are simply wrong.

I care about wins & losses.
8-5 with a top 5 team.
Or 54-9 last 5 years.

 

[IRISHMAN]

ND built a good class but man what could have been with all the decommits, specially at RB and S.