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Luckylucci · Sep 11, 2020

It does.

Luckylucci · Sep 15, 2020

Irish YJ · Oct 4, 2020

9th currently in the class rankings with the new add.

10th in AVG for those with at least 15 commits.

IRISHMAN · Oct 13, 2020

with NDs OL and the early success of the RBs, will ND be able to land a 2nd RB to this class.

Luckylucci · Oct 13, 2020

IRISHMAN said:
with NDs OL and the early success of the RBs, will ND be able to land a 2nd RB to this class.

I think they'd take one, if one that was good enough wanted in. However, as of today, it seems like Donovan Edwards is the only option and he's not much of an option.

If you can't get Edwards, I say we feel good about the quality and youthfulness of the current group and go big game hunting in 22'. And, definitely take 2 in that class with one being maybe a smaller APB type guy.

zelezo vlk · Oct 13, 2020

Is Gavin Sawchuk too big to be that smaller APB? I'd love to have him in the class

Luckylucci · Oct 13, 2020

zelezo vlk said:
Is Gavin Sawchuk too big to be that smaller APB? I'd love to have him in the class

I think Gavin would be the headliner if we were lucky enough to get him. That kid is really good.

The APB that I have circled is Aidan Laughery (Crus special). 10.7 100 M as a freshman out of IL. It'd be a great way to get a guy in the program without scaring away the bigger fish, so to speak.

NDIrish88 · Oct 30, 2020

Looks like they are trying to flip him.

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Irish#1 · Oct 30, 2020

Trying to flip because of the upcoming "no thanks" that will be given to Ariaba?

NDIrish88 · Oct 30, 2020

Irish#1 said:
Trying to flip because of the upcoming "no thanks" that will be given to Ariaba?

I saw the post form Singer but just saw the pic in front of the paywall. I assume your reasoning is correct.

NewEnglandGuy · Oct 30, 2020

Interesting his timeline doesn’t show we previously offered. Unknown how much a recent relationship versus coming in second when a prospect previously commits matters. Not saying it’s moot, but look at Riley. USC wasn’t listed in his final group prior to his commitment to ND.

Looking at Gilliam’s offers makes me more optimistic of a long shot move. Instead of all football factories 247 lists:

Air Force, Cal, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt.

In addition to:

Florida, LSU, Michigan, UNC, Penn St, Pitt, Tennessee, Texas, V Tech, etc

NDPhilly · Oct 30, 2020

Don’t understand why any highly rated defensive recruit would want to play at Oklahoma. Props to their staff.

Finishing with Gilliam and Philip Riley would make this the best class of the Kelly era IMO.

IRISHMAN · Oct 30, 2020

NDPhilly said:
Don’t understand why any highly rated defensive recruit would want to play at Oklahoma. Props to their staff.

Finishing with Gilliam and Philip Riley would make this the best class of the Kelly era IMO.

is ND expecting to get Philip riley back from usc?

BobbyMac · Oct 30, 2020

NDIrish88 said:
Looks like they are trying to flip him.

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My Day 1 SDE for this class. If you're from VA and chose OU however, I don't get any warm and fuzzy expectations.

BobbyMac · Oct 30, 2020

IRISHMAN said:
is ND expecting to get Philip riley back from usc?

Expecting? I don't know about that but they are trying.

NDIrish88 · Oct 30, 2020

NDCrusader said:
My Day 1 SDE for this class. If you're from VA and chose OU however, I don't get any warm and fuzzy expectations.

From what I read OU wants to add weight and make a 3 tech. Also agreed I do not get them either with him.

BobbyMac · Oct 30, 2020

For the second time in a week ND offers a RKG from Acadiana just days before he commits to LSU. Weird.

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Luckylucci · Oct 30, 2020

NDCrusader said:
For the second time in a week ND offers a RKG from Acadiana just days before he commits to LSU. Weird.

Yea, very weird. I'm not unhappy with the class at all but we have space and recent recruiting has me feeling like they are just wasting time.

NewEnglandGuy · Oct 30, 2020

NDCrusader said:
For the second time in a week ND offers a RKG from Acadiana just days before he commits to LSU. Weird.

Aren’t they at least down 8 scholarships, over 2 years, from OBJ incident before NCAA may apply more?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...0/21/lsu-football-self-imposed-sanctions-ncaa

Currently they have 19 commits in 2021 class. Scholarship reduction start next year?

BobbyMac · Oct 30, 2020

Would have been interesting to see how this played out if ND offered last winter when he should've been offered. He committed to Vandy for a reason. That reason plus Catholicism would've made that an ND commitment. The interesting part then is does he stick with ND over LSU's late advance. For some Catholic families, ND is not only a historic national football brand but it's also the Catholic Harvard + a huge source of pride every Sunday at mass.

And let me be on record, if you've read my master list WR board, Bech's been near the top and ahead of Thomas for over a year.

BobbyMac · Oct 30, 2020

NewEnglandGuy said:
Aren’t they at least down 8 scholarships, over 2 years, from OBJ incident before NCAA may apply more?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...0/21/lsu-football-self-imposed-sanctions-ncaa

Currently they have 19 commits in 2021 class. Scholarship reduction start next year?

I didn't read anything about LSU's sanctions so can't help you there.

hungryhippo · Oct 30, 2020

NewEnglandGuy said:
Aren’t they at least down 8 scholarships, over 2 years, from OBJ incident before NCAA may apply more?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...0/21/lsu-football-self-imposed-sanctions-ncaa

Currently they have 19 commits in 2021 class. Scholarship reduction start next year?

The 8 come off the total. Doesn’t matter how they allocate or how many in the next 2 classes. They just gotta come in at 77 total next 2 seasons. That is, if I read it right.

KizerWilhelm · Nov 5, 2020

ND offered OU commit Kelvin Gilliam, per his 247 profile

https://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Gilliam-46076864/

Loy says OU thinks he's locked up, but ND thinks they have a chance

zelezo vlk · Nov 5, 2020

Thought they had said that last week or maybe 2 weeks ago?

BobbyMac · Nov 5, 2020

zelezo vlk said:
Thought they had said that last week or maybe 2 weeks ago?

Someone at 247 (maybe an OU analyst or someone from the home office) updated his profile today to add the ND offer.

The offer came sometime after Abiara's news broke and when he tweeted this to address the rumors.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">⭕️</p>— “King” Kelvin Gilliam 👑 (@Kelvin_Gilliam2) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kelvin_Gilliam2/status/1321869840097882112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As much as I'd like there to be something here, I'm in full on Doubt It mode until after a 247 or Rivals ND/OU analyst summit says otherwise.

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zelezo vlk · Nov 5, 2020

So he's officially interested after ND wins on Saturday, but still ends up staying committed to not playing defense at OU?

Luckylucci · Nov 5, 2020

How about we go after some guys we actually have a shot with, lol.

dublinirish · Nov 10, 2020

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">😉☘️👀</p>— Blake Fisher☘️ (@bfisher54_) <a href="https://twitter.com/bfisher54_/status/1326225740904411136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

zelezo vlk · Nov 10, 2020

Philip Riley?

NewEnglandGuy · Nov 10, 2020

Or Kia. Or both.

Recent Wilfong and Loy CB's for Kia.

Wright, Gilliam, and Cardwell have longer roads.

TMA could use positive news first.

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