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This is going to be bad week. We will have the worst President ever to take over in Biden and going to lose to Clemson. Oh what fun.

You literally cannot already claim Biden to be the worst President ever...
 

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If Biden wins NV, WI, and MI today, then we won’t have to wait on PA which looks like is going to drag on all week. If that’s the case, and PA, NC, GA all remain Trump he still loses and ultimately it would have been Arizona that cost him the election.
 

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I think Biden will do what Obama did, campaign hard left, but his Presidency will be Left-Center. His career says that. In all honesty, Harris's career says that too, but she is now woke so who knows there. Biden's biggest issue is his running mate. If he had any shred of a good VP (Tulsi or Yang-Gang) I think he'd have won over more people.

Harris's voting record is left of Sanders.

I dont think Biden will really even get a chance to do much. Senate looking red.
 

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So I'm seeing that it looks as though AZ is only 84% in and not 95%. Also that WI is going up for a recount?
 

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Harris's voting record is left of Sanders.

I dont think Biden will really even get a chance to do much. Senate looking red.

Agreed. This has been proven by their voting records. I was surprised to see this & she didn’t handle that exact question well when it was posed to her.

She bailed out of the primary before she could be embarrassed by not winning her own state. Tulsi took her to the woodshed in the debates.

Bernie has not minced words that he & his followers will be heavily involved in driving the agenda to ensure “Biden is the most progressive POTSU since FDR”.

Otherwise, I would think Biden would be more moderate. He’s just so obviously mentally compromised so independents & Reps believe he’s just an empty suit that will be a puppet for the far Left. Time will tell.
 

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Biden up about half a point in MI & WI. WI has 99% reported and MI 93%. Trump had to carry at least one of those along with PA, NC and GA.
 

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So I'm seeing that it looks as though AZ is only 84% in and not 95%. Also that WI is going up for a recount?

Yea, it sounds like there is a lot to play out with AZ still. Ballots still to be counted and some precincts used sharpies and then the machines discredited those ballots because the sharpie ink bled through. Just more chaos.
 

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So I'm seeing that it looks as though AZ is only 84% in and not 95%. Also that WI is going up for a recount?

Read on Reuters that his campaign manager will ask for a recount almost immediately after WI declares given how close it is. I would think they might do the same with MI?
 

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Surprised Legacy hasn't been here today. Counting votes in PA, WI or MI? lol
 

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Read on Reuters that his campaign manager will ask for a recount almost immediately after WI declares given how close it is. I would think they might do the same with MI?

have to wait 10 days past election day to officially request this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The campaign will have to wait until counties finish their canvassing process before they can request this. That will happpen some time between now and Nov. 17.<br><br>In 2016, a presidential recount requested by Jill Stein got President Trump an additional 131 votes. <a href="https://t.co/dYDyA4FGPD">https://t.co/dYDyA4FGPD</a></p>— Adam Brewster (@adam_brew) <a href="https://twitter.com/adam_brew/status/1324048671940509696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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This shit is bananas lol.

You gotta feel bad for all rhe twitter commies who donated their money to the lady running against Mitch and the dude running against Lindsey and the lady running against Susan Collins.

Dems lit an awful lot of money on fire and it looks like their return on investment is the cosmonaut in AZ with weird ties to China and the creepy dude from Denver who admitted to watching porn with his mom.

For Presidency stuff, man this is pretty goofy. If Trump ends up snagging AZ the fox News decision desk should probably all be fired lol, they were constantly asked about it last night. Now maybe they know something nobody else does but...makes ya wonder lol
 

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This shit is bananas lol.

You gotta feel bad for all rhe twitter commies who donated their money to the lady running against Mitch and the dude running against Lindsey and the lady running against Susan Collins.

Dems lit an awful lot of money on fire and it looks like their return on investment is the cosmonaut in AZ with weird ties to China and the creepy dude from Denver who admitted to watching porn with his mom.

For Presidency stuff, man this is pretty goofy. If Trump ends up snagging AZ the fox News decision desk should probably all be fired lol, they were constantly asked about it last night. Now maybe they know something nobody else does but...makes ya wonder lol

GOP but a shit ton into trying to beat AOC in NY and it went miserably for them. Money wasted on both sides you could say
 

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Georgia elected a QANON and ND elected a dead guy. Sweet. At least no nazis this year.

Everyone seems on the same page. I think Biden ultimately wins but Don isnt going quietly and he will have to be drug out of the WH in the end. Their only path is to litigate the fuck out of WI and MI and hope enough votes get overturned or discarded to give Trump a narrow win. I dont see that happening in both. Also PA seems to be looking ok for a Biden victory from what I am seeing (not that I know).
 

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GOP but a shit ton into trying to beat AOC in NY and it went miserably for them. Money wasted on both sides you could say

How much did they spend? I figured they just found some local who was willing to take the beating. I'm not even sure why the GOP would want to get rid of her. She makes a really nice villain. Proposes outlandish ideas that you can dunk on in campaigns.

Dems dropped something like $300 million between SC, KY, TX, and ME. I fully get trying to find vulnerable seats but thats gotta hurt badly when you spend that kind of money and get slapped around like ND in a major bowl game.

also congrats to your North Dakota brethren for electing a dead guy

Lol that was pretty funny. I'm not even sure why we have general elections in ND anymore. The Republican primary is the only thing that matters.
 

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Georgia elected a QANON and ND elected a dead guy. Sweet. At least no nazis this year.

Everyone seems on the same page. I think Biden ultimately wins but Don isnt going quietly and he will have to be drug out of the WH in the end. Their only path is to litigate the fuck out of WI and MI and hope enough votes get overturned or discarded to give Trump a narrow win. I dont see that happening in both. Also PA seems to be looking ok for a Biden victory from what I am seeing (not that I know).

I have nooooo idea what QAnon is, only know about since you Liberals keep bringing it up!! Only Dems like the crazies.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Live look at the White House bunker where Trump is trying to stop the counting of ballots. <br><br>The internet remains undefeated... <a href="https://t.co/nd79MMYSuS">pic.twitter.com/nd79MMYSuS</a></p>— Rex Chapman&#55356;&#57287;&#55356;&#57340; (@RexChapman) <a href="https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324078979775684608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dont care who you are this is funny af.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Live look at the White House bunker where Trump is trying to stop the counting of ballots. <br><br>The internet remains undefeated... <a href="https://t.co/nd79MMYSuS">pic.twitter.com/nd79MMYSuS</a></p>— Rex Chapman���� (@RexChapman) <a href="https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324078979775684608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dont care who you are this is funny af.

Fucking gold. A bit on the nose with the Nazi stuff LOL

Honestly, might not be that different than what is happening in the Bunker. Minus most of the Nazi memorabilia (sans Stephen Miller).
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Live look at the White House bunker where Trump is trying to stop the counting of ballots. <br><br>The internet remains undefeated... <a href="https://t.co/nd79MMYSuS">pic.twitter.com/nd79MMYSuS</a></p>— Rex Chapman���� (@RexChapman) <a href="https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324078979775684608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dont care who you are this is funny af.

lol..........Al of those Hitler parodies are FAF.
 

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have to wait 10 days past election day to officially request this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The campaign will have to wait until counties finish their canvassing process before they can request this. That will happpen some time between now and Nov. 17.<br><br>In 2016, a presidential recount requested by Jill Stein got President Trump an additional 131 votes. <a href="https://t.co/dYDyA4FGPD">https://t.co/dYDyA4FGPD</a></p>— Adam Brewster (@adam_brew) <a href="https://twitter.com/adam_brew/status/1324048671940509696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Haven't had a chance to search, but had two different people tell me WI reported a little over 100K more votes than registered voters? That can't be true can it?
 
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Democracy!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a>: Large, animated crush of “stop the count” protestors trying to push their way into TCF hall in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Detroit?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Detroit</a> where ballots are being counted.<br><br>They’re being blocked by guards at the door. <br><br>Pizza boxes are pushed against the window to obstruct view. It’s tense. <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NBCNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/zFhzd88skX">pic.twitter.com/zFhzd88skX</a></p>— Steve Patterson (@PattersonNBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/PattersonNBC/status/1324086177885003778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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If Trump hangs onto PA, GA, and NC by my count Biden wins 270-268. Incredibly the one random flipped district in Nebraska will have decided the election.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">so trump wants them to stop counting in Michigan, count more in Arizona and Nevada, and recount in Wisconsin, is that correct?</p>— Farhad Manjoo (@fmanjoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/fmanjoo/status/1324094557017890816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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CNN calling Michigan for Biden. Needs only Nevada or one of GA, PA, NC. He is likely to get NV and PA pending all the litigation they are threatening.

ETA pretty much everyone else is calling it to.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pennsylvania Democratic officials are privately telling Biden campaign officials that they believe final margin of victory for Biden in Pennsylvania will be 100K-200K votes when the counting is finally done</p>— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) <a href="https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status/1324098012172439552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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The best outcome imaginable
Joe Biden will be a hamstrung and moderated president

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At the time of writing, several key states are still tabulating or finding votes (depending on what side of the aisle you prefer). Joe Biden presently looks to be headed to the White House as the 46th President of the United States. Yet oddly there is no exuberance flooding out from Democrats or their voters. There are no mass celebrations from fellow Democrats and the professional polling industry is on life support. Vote totals in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia and Pennsylvania still need to be finalized, but Biden is clearly sitting in pole position.

In a bizarre late-night appearance, President Trump and his campaign seemed poised to challenge the results and vote-counting methods. While there may be questions to be asked of Michigan and Pennsylvania, Biden is closing the gap beyond a margin of error, making Donald Trump a one-term president, just as liberals had hoped.

So why are Democrats still acting deflated? For starters, Republicans look poised to hold the Senate, rendering any Biden agenda dead on arrival. Filibuster remains. No Green New Deal. No court packing. No statehood for Washington DC and Puerto Rico and with them four new Senate seats. No massive defunding and restructuring of police. Nothing. The activist left has been neutered for now. Thanks to a newly tilted Supreme Court, Biden’s attempts to executive-order his way around Congress have been severely crippled as well. Biden will occupy the Oval Office while the national media gives Kamala Harris the presidential treatment. This should suit the political right just fine. A Mitch McConnell-led Senate will also force a President Biden to moderate his Supreme Court choices.

There are other enormous warning signs for the Democratic party and its leadership, both electorally and demographically. Democrats failed to unseat a single House incumbent. Republicans flipped several seats, with five of them now belonging to young Republican women. There was also a massive demographic shift among the Latino community particularly in Florida and Texas. For example, in Zapata County in the Rio Grande Valley, Trump lost to Hillary Clinton by a margin of 65 percent to 32 percent. This election he won the same county 52-47. The Cuban Latino population is largely being credited with putting Florida in the win column for Trump. The President carried more of a minority and urban vote than any Republican since 1960, despite being called a racist almost every day by the media (another industry that has to do some soul searching). Trump increased his share with these communities by approximately five points.

The Democratic party may well secure the White House, but it will by no means have an electoral mandate, likely having done so with only a handful of electoral votes. It makes you wonder how President Trump would have fared in a year without a global pandemic, a year when he’d perhaps reined in his most Trumpian personality traits. But what the election revealed is the path forward for the GOP: a mix of economic populism and nationalism, but this time without the tweets (if Trump decides against running in 2024, that is). The 2020 election was by no means a sweeping rebuke of Trump’s policies, as the media and pollsters has been telling us it would be, nor was it the crashing blue wave the Democrats wanted.

The Democratic party will face far more questions about its leadership and its relationship with radical ideologies and policies being driven by way-too-online activists and media-endorsed protest-to-riot movements. They might be rid of Donald Trump, but Joe Biden will be a hamstrung and moderated president. This is the best possible election outcome imaginable for the country.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW: A conspiracy theorist wearing a t-shirt that says "BBQ, Beer, Freedom" interrupts a press conference by the Clark County, Nevada Registrar of Voters. [KSNV-TV] <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Election2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Election2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/Rz2FgK38vZ">pic.twitter.com/Rz2FgK38vZ</a></p>— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1324101334140792832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW: A conspiracy theorist wearing a t-shirt that says "BBQ, Beer, Freedom" interrupts a press conference by the Clark County, Nevada Registrar of Voters. [KSNV-TV] <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Election2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Election2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/Rz2FgK38vZ">pic.twitter.com/Rz2FgK38vZ</a></p>— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1324101334140792832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah, now I know why YJ has been so quiet on here.
 
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