2017-2018 Notre Dame Men's Basketball

[NDGOLDEN]

More easy cash.


Rolling with ND -1.5

Line moved up to -2.5

 

[irish4ever]

He looked good today in that limited action. Maybe they wanted the big fella to preserve something for tomorrow. I though the team played OK today. They played good defense and they hustled after loose balls. They just couldn't get anything to drop the second half. This is an easy win if the Irish shoot 30% the second half. Glad they could get that out of their system vs a team like Pitt. I see this being a wakeup call for the team. Irish win tomorrow!!!

Definitely going to need a much improved shooting night from Colson AND Gibbs. Bonzi was only 5-14 (0-3 for 3 pt.). And Gibbs was really off on some wide open looks! He's much better than a 3-10 (0-4 for 3 pt.) shooter! Need a BIG win tonight ... Go Irish!

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Definitely going to need a much improved shooting night from Colson AND Gibbs. Bonzi was only 5-14 (0-3 for 3 pt.). And Gibbs was really off on some wide open looks! He's much better than a 3-10 (0-4 for 3 pt.) shooter! Need a BIG win tonight ... Go Irish!

Gibbs is due for a big night. Law of averages has to come in to play at some point right? Hopefully we will see them shoot better tonight or were screwed

 

[Irish#1]

One thing everyone is overlooking is the return of Bonzi. This team had to adjust to playing without him and now has to adjust with him being back. It doesn't happen in 2-3 games. It's a game by game process.

I can't see us being cold as ice two games in a row.

 

[RDU Irish]

Exactly right just win! Biggest game of year is tomorrow.

Also can someone explain to me why djogo is playing so much? He hasn’t scored in like a month. Is he a really good defender? It seemed like geben didn’t play the last 10 mins

Mooney had 9 rebs today in very limited time. I know Mooney comes in for bonzie but why not play both.

Granted maybe 4 of Mooney's rebounds were on one exchange rebounding his own misses while getting mugged down low but I completely agree with him earning more time. As long as the three bigs are sharing 2 spots on the floor it will be a disservice to Mooney and Geben.

Djogo is playing b/c our three guards need rest and Brey refuses to go three bigs. I think he is such a liability on offense we end up playing 4 on 5. Pitt was not pressuring like VT will so I think we could have gotten away with two guards and used more size to muscle through Pitt's physical play. He gets more minutes b/c of the same math holding back Mooney - 4 guys splitting three spots on the floor.

I think we would be well served to eat them up down low early and often. +10 rebound margin would be great to see. With a need for ball handlers and perimeter defense I don't see three bigs happening - which means more Djogo than Mooney unfortunately.

Any way you slice it - I see real problems with our flow and chemistry. Hard time seeing how we improve that over night if they didn't sort anything out over the last week.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Granted maybe 4 of Mooney's rebounds were on one exchange rebounding his own misses while getting mugged down low but I completely agree with him earning more time. As long as the three bigs are sharing 2 spots on the floor it will be a disservice to Mooney and Geben.

Djogo is playing b/c our three guards need rest and Brey refuses to go three bigs. I think he is such a liability on offense we end up playing 4 on 5. Pitt was not pressuring like VT will so I think we could have gotten away with two guards and used more size to muscle through Pitt's physical play. He gets more minutes b/c of the same math holding back Mooney - 4 guys splitting three spots on the floor.

I think we would be well served to eat them up down low early and often. +10 rebound margin would be great to see. With a need for ball handlers and perimeter defense I don't see three bigs happening - which means more Djogo than Mooney unfortunately.

Any way you slice it - I see real problems with our flow and chemistry. Hard time seeing how we improve that over night if they didn't sort anything out over the last week.

3 on 5 if he is out there with Rex.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

3 on 5 if he is out there with Rex.

Well Rex can atleast score he had 13 yesterday. But ya djogo is a offensive reliability at the moment.

Just gotta make shots tonight or were in trouble

 

[Ndaccountant]

Well Rex can atleast score he had 13 yesterday. But ya djogo is a offensive reliability at the moment.

Just gotta make shots tonight or were in trouble

For the year, Rex's true shooting percentage (measure of shooting efficiency, taking into consideration 2 point FG, 3 pt FG and FT) is .487. Djogo is is .388. Both Rex and Djogo are in the bottom third of the team.

Another way of looking at it is offensive +/- compared to NCAA averages. Rex is 2.1, but Bonzie, Gibbs, Geben, Mooney and Farrell are all over 4. Djogo is -1.5 BTW.

I like what Rex brings defensively and I think he is a net asset to the team. I also think it isn't wise to have both he and Djogo on the floor at the same time. Losing Harvey (and Ryan) really hurt.

 

[RDU Irish]

3 on 5 if he is out there with Rex.

Rex hit 40% from three last year - when he is a complimentary offensive player he is an asset. When he forces shots he becomes a liability evident in his 33% 3pt shooting this year on nearly double the volume. You leave him open and he will make you pay from three.

Also a reliable ball handler, good passer and good off ball movement. Dude is a true glue asset - but haters gonna hate. When Rex plays in the flow/doesn't overthink it - he is a much better offensive player.

Last five games - Djogo is 4-20 from the field, 1-8 from three - last two games he has one shot so maybe he has a red light (I didn't know Brey had one). Just toxic for our offense to be free flowing. Also two rebounds in 36 total minutes in those two games - pretty abysmal production but I am not sure there is any other answer to rest our guards.

 

[RDU Irish]

For the year, Rex's true shooting percentage (measure of shooting efficiency, taking into consideration 2 point FG, 3 pt FG and FT) is .487. Djogo is is .388. Both Rex and Djogo are in the bottom third of the team.

Another way of looking at it is offensive +/- compared to NCAA averages. Rex is 2.1, but Bonzie, Gibbs, Geben, Mooney and Farrell are all over 4. Djogo is -1.5 BTW.

I like what Rex brings defensively and I think he is a net asset to the team. I also think it isn't wise to have both he and Djogo on the floor at the same time. Losing Harvey (and Ryan) really hurt.

Bingo - Harvey gave so much more roster flexibility. Who else can we roll in at the 2 or 3 spot other than Djogo? Pretty much nobody - maybe Bonzie could act like a 3 but that is asking a lot defensively.

 

[irishfan]

For the year, Rex's true shooting percentage (measure of shooting efficiency, taking into consideration 2 point FG, 3 pt FG and FT) is .487. Djogo is is .388. Both Rex and Djogo are in the bottom third of the team.

Another way of looking at it is offensive +/- compared to NCAA averages. Rex is 2.1, but Bonzie, Gibbs, Geben, Mooney and Farrell are all over 4. Djogo is -1.5 BTW.

I like what Rex brings defensively and I think he is a net asset to the team. I also think it isn't wise to have both he and Djogo on the floor at the same time. Losing Harvey (and Ryan) really hurt.

Agreed here completely. The only time I want them out there together is for a minute or two if Brey is trying to get some rest for Farrell or Gibbs before a TV timeout. I hope Brey was just experimenting a bit with lineups yesterday or something and figuring out what works best with Bonzie back.

I agree with what many have posted also and that we need to see a bit more of Mooney. I think sometimes Brey reacts to what the opposing team is doing with lineups and tries to match it, and I think someone like Mooney can be almost an X-factor for us since he can shoot over any guard. It lets us avoid going against a 4-guard lineup which we can't really defend.

 

[irishfan]

Also, FSU vs. Louisville on right now. FSU winning would be huge for us.

 

[Irish YJ]

Also, FSU vs. Louisville on right now. FSU winning would be huge for us.

Need a Cuse loss as well.

Baylor, TX, OK St, Marquette, UCLA, USC, Washington, Utah, Bama, Mid TN, and St Bon are all losses that help the good guys.

 

[Blaise]

I truly believe a win tonight and a good game vs Duke gets us in IMO

 

[RDU Irish]

Time to put up or shut up. If these guys are a Top 20 squad they need to start acting like it. That mean smoking VT and beating Duke. Anything less gives plenty of excuses to drop us from the NCAAs and relies on charity to get in. Also think a Duke win is needed to really get some swagger back that will be needed to make a Sweet 16 run.

 

[irishfan]

Louisville/FSU is not looking good...Louisville up 19 at half.

 

[Irish YJ]

Louisville/FSU is not looking good...Louisville up 19 at half.

Hopefully FSU can channel their inner Virginia and make a comeback.

 

[sportallyr]

Louisville looks like they are punching their ticket

 

[irishfan]

Arizona State losing by 4 to Colorado at half. ASU losing would make up for Louisville winning earlier.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[Henges24]

BC! Wow that Robinson is legit.

 

[NDty9]

BC! Wow that Robinson is legit.

I assume this CAN'T be good for us???

 

[irishfan]

I assume this CAN'T be good for us???

Unless it impacts where BC and NC State lie in the Quadrants, it shouldn't matter too much. NC State seems safely in regardless, and BC is too far back to get an at-large. We played both teams twice, so one beating the other doesn't affect the SOS I would assume.

 

[NDty9]

Unless it impacts where BC and NC State lie in the Quadrants, it shouldn't matter too much. NC State seems safely in regardless, and BC is too far back to get an at-large. We played both teams twice, so one beating the other doesn't affect the SOS I would assume.

Oh Ok, Good! For some reason I assumed BC was a bubble team, I D K Why. Thank you though

 

[irishfan]

Arizona State lost to Colorado 97-85. Could drop them out.

 

[Irishize]

I truly believe a win tonight and a good game vs Duke gets us in IMO

Maybe. But as Sampsn & O’Malley stated, ND needs the Duke win to truly make a case to be in. Without thta, their best conf win was over NCSt...three months ago. The bad losses when we had a healthy Bonzie are what hurts NDs case IMO. Had they been 13-1 before Colson went down, it’s a different story.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Maybe. But as Sampsn & O’Malley stated, ND needs the Duke win to truly make a case to be in. Without thta, their best conf win was over NCSt...three months ago. The bad losses when we had a healthy Bonzie are what hurts NDs case IMO. Had they been 13-1 before Colson went down, it’s a different story.

I get where their coming from with bad losses but their not bracketologist. Lunardi says with a win tonight he thinks we are in. I’ll take his word since he’s right 95% of the time for the past 20 years. I also think we will get in with a win tonight. Will have to sweat it out for 3 days if we win tonight and lose tomorrow but I think it’s enough

 

[Woneone]

Maybe. But as Sampsn & O’Malley stated, ND needs the Duke win to truly make a case to be in. Without thta, their best conf win was over NCSt...three months ago. The bad losses when we had a healthy Bonzie are what hurts NDs case IMO. Had they been 13-1 before Colson went down, it’s a different story.

All of the normal ND podcasts are terrible when it comes to basketball. So much so I fast forward through those parts when they discuss it.

The guys you quoted also gave us a 0% chance at beating Syracuse.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Also who do we want wo win ok or ok st? I’m thinking ok just cause their not as much on the bubble

 

[irishfan]

Also who do we want wo win ok or ok st? I’m thinking ok just cause their not as much on the bubble

OU for sure IMO. Ok State is right there with us and OU seems safely in everywhere.