'15 JUCO-FR RB Jeremy Smith (Louisville Verbal)

dwshade

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Huh? Here is the timeline...

Hubbard is a lacrosse commit, his football coach says "you could play D1 football" and asks what schools he'd like to send the film to, every school he sends the film to immediately offers except ND, ND slow plays him talking about being a PWO and saying they want to evaluate him more, he commits to Ohio State, later gets an offer. All of this under Diaco.

That is literally textbook slow playing someone... chasing bigger prospects on your board while dragging your feet on an offer despite maintaining contact only to reach out late in the cycle with an offer after whiffing.



Yeah, Diaco was never high on him, and the initial "offer" wasn't committable. But we circled back around after the coaching change with renewed interest and he wasn't interested.

I think we just have a different definition of slow playing a prospect. To me slow playing is telling a kid you are interested enough to offer but it's not yet committable. So the kid waits to see how it turns out and staff continues to tell him to be patient. In Hubbards case they did a spring eval on him and weren't convinced he was a prospect they wanted to offer. So in April he commits to OSU. He's made his decison, isn't waiting on another school. We reevaluate him as a prospect later and decide he's worth an offer. In my mind that's not slow playing it's simply a reevaluation of a prospect. In the spring of 13 we would not have offered Williams and Hill. But later when we reevaluate players we see the improvement they've shown and now are ready to offer.
 

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Serious, save your rhetorical questions for someone who cares. He is a UCLA commit, and has been since I can remember. We've done nothing on the field to convince him to change that decision. And lastly, Jim Mora won't let this kid get away.

You bring up a lot a great points, none of which changes this young's man decision or my opinion. But I hope you are right, because he is an amazing football player.

All of the things you bring up are your criteria that your making up for his recruitment. The fact that you don't get that is, honestly, hilarious. Who said that our season matters to him? You, well as members of IE let's make sure we let him know that you said he cares about that. Not education, not playing time, and not the way we use TE's. Mora and our season are the only things that matter, oh and your gut feeling. We've obviously done something to convince him considering he's taking his 3rd visit to campus.
 

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Lucci, Jones has been wavering for months now. This isn't just now becoming tangible interest. Jones has been interested in ND since he started his recruitment. It's just now reaching the point where everything comes together. UCLA wasn't all that hot this year either, and that epic pantsing they suffered at the hands of Stanford (a team ND beat) pretty much put it all together. 9-3 looks good, but they stayed relatively healthy, while ND was toting out their scout team defense and a makeshift offensive line. Completely different scenarios, and I'm pretty sure Aliz'e knows it.

I know, some people just have no idea what they're talking about. Yet, they insist otherwise.
 

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Wasn't it Alize who tweeted something to the effect of work hard for 4 years and have fun rest of your life or have fun for 4 years and then work hard the rest of your life? Sounds like an ND kind of kid to me. I'm also amazed at people who think kids make a decision based on the outcome of a game or a season. So many factors come into play as to why a kid chooses a particular school and a kid considering ND is usually smart in terms of looking at the big picture.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Last night, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Louisville?src=hash">#Louisville</a> snags a commitment from the nation's No. 4 JUCO RB Jeremy Smith: <a href="http://t.co/pyAjhRdUIk">http://t.co/pyAjhRdUIk</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a></p>— Steve Wiltfong (@SWiltfong247) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247/status/544821629625180161">December 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Living in KY, I've already seen enough "Louisville beats ND for JUCO RB" to make me sick.
 
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