College Football Playoffs

[JughedJones]

IIRC, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, etc. get more TV money than ND. The financial benefit of being independent has passed given the big conference TV deals.

Where did you get this information? Not saying I don't believe you, but a national broadcast nearly every game is worth less than whatever Purdue gets?


Either your numbers are wrong or ND needs to fire their negotiator.

 

[NDhoosier]

Irish second-most valuable team - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN

 

[Cali_domer]

Irish second-most valuable team - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN

Imagine how much that will climb when we start to win games.

 

[RazHawk]

To clarify, when I was speaking about "Inventory", my main point was that ABC/ESPN, who pretty much own college football, need inventory because they have ESPNU, ESPN, ESPN2, & ABC that all need to air college football games on Saturdays.

If you are bidding on the ND contract, it is a little less valuable because Notre Dame is one school, and as elite as it is, if you can own the rights to a Notre Dame game and fill 1 channel, or own the rights to the Big Ten Contract w/ Michigan, PSU, Ohio State, Nebraska, Etc., which option is more appealing to you?

As I mentioned above, the addition of the BTN revenue has really improved the Big Ten's TV revenue as well - it has been a resounding success.

EDIT: LOL! Apparently my first post needs to be approved or something? I just typed up about a 4 paragraph long narrative to JughedJones & it didn't show up. The gist of it can be found in these two articles:

As Notre Dame's TV Money Dwindles, So Too Should Its Independence

Big Ten could see TV money skyrocket with expansion - Chicago Tribune

Hopefully my full post eventually shows up, but the bottom line is that ND, in a year when they don't go to a BCS bowl, would likely take home about $12M in TV revenue - EVERY Big Ten school (including Indiana & NW) took home about $22M last year, and that will continue to rise as the BTN continues to establish itself (and it will jump substantially in 2016 when the Big Ten renegotiates its Tier 1 TV contract w/ ABC/ESPN).

Notre Dame would make substantially more TV money in a conference today than it can by itself, it remains independent because independence is what defines the program, not because it makes financial sense.

With the watershed change that is about to take place with the college football postseason, perhaps Notre Dame's priorities will change. It will be interesting to watch.

 

[stlnd01]

Notre Dame would make substantially more TV money in a conference today than it can by itself, it remains independent because independence is what defines the program, not because it makes financial sense.

With the watershed change that is about to take place with the college football postseason, perhaps Notre Dame's priorities will change. It will be interesting to watch.

Independence makes financial sense because it defines the program.
It's what enables us to play the schedule we do, recruit nationally like we do, be in the conversation like we always are and in a way that your typical 8-wins-a-year schools (BC, NC State, Kansas State, UCLA) simply aren't.
Maybe we'd earn more in short-run TV revenue by joining a conference. But in the Big Ten we'd be just another Penn State or Nebraska, and in the ACC we'd be playing a bunch of schools that don't care about football. How depressing was that Wake Forest scene? Multiply that by six.
Long run, our brand is better off independent as long as we can get access to the big bowls and TV exposure. Of course, at some point (ideally before the next NBC contract gets negotiated) it wouldn't hurt to be, you know, good.

 

[laservet]

Where did you get this information? Not saying I don't believe you, but a national broadcast nearly every game is worth less than whatever Purdue gets?


Either your numbers are wrong or ND needs to fire their negotiator.

RazHawk has already posted the information.

 

[chubler]

I'd just like to remind everyone that we have 7.3 billion dollars sitting around in endowment money, absurd cash flow from donors every year, and according to that forbes thing we are the ONLY university that can generate more than 10 million per home game. No other football-playing university comes even close. Michigan has 7.8 billion for 3 universities serving thousands upon thousands of students AND a hospital system. We have 500 million less for a single university. We don't need to do ANYTHING for financial reasons. Joining a conference diminishes our abillity to make that kind of money at the games in exchange for a bit of tv money... joining a conference doesn't make sense financially or according to our tradition and educational goals.

 

[Downinthebend]

Clearly we must restructure our BCS and TV contracts for more $$.

 

[NDhoosier]

Independence is best for Notre Dame, the national brand is far more important...

 

[irish1958]

Ratings determine the value of a TV contract. Our poor records and inability to win big games have diminished our value. I think we will be lucky to have NBC offer us the same contract, instead of canceling.

 

[Downinthebend]

Thats just not true.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

As long as humans continue to reproduce, Notre Dame will continue to be relevant.

 

[NDhoosier]

Ratings determine the value of a TV contract. Our poor records and inability to win big games have diminished our value. I think we will be lucky to have NBC offer us the same contract, instead of canceling.

true, but at the same time, if we start winning, the ratings will go back up and the TV contract will maintain its value, if not increase (depending on how well we do).

 

[Patulski]

I'd just like to remind everyone that we have 7.3 billion dollars sitting around in endowment money, absurd cash flow from donors every year, and according to that forbes thing we are the ONLY university that can generate more than 10 million per home game. No other football-playing university comes even close. Michigan has 7.8 billion for 3 universities serving thousands upon thousands of students AND a hospital system. We have 500 million less for a single university. We don't need to do ANYTHING for financial reasons. Joining a conference diminishes our abillity to make that kind of money at the games in exchange for a bit of tv money... joining a conference doesn't make sense financially or according to our tradition and educational goals.

Thank you for putting this into perspective to the people on this board who apparently don't know much about Notre Dame's financial position.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Dan Wetzel wrote a compelling article on how bowl-induced corruption is already ruining the new play-off system, and our own Rocket89 offers some insightful commentary on it here.