The 5 uproven guys that have to step up immediately

[Praytorian]

If no halfback emerges as our short yardage guy, I could see Kelly putting Hendrix in and running a lot of Tebow type of sneaks.

Honestly if he's not the starting qb I have NO objections to this. I always liked the way he put his shoulder down and pushed for those extra yards. If he is the starter, I don't want him to do that as much.

Go Irish

 

[Irish8248]

Completely agree -- playmaker plus a grasp of the offense is a Yahtzee for BK. I agree that Golson has all the potential in the world to be that guy for him, however I feel he's too unproven for BK at this time. IMHO Golson is the more likely one to be a package guy so he can in-fact get those reps. If TR is the starter we see a lot of Golson, if AH starts well see less but it will be easier for Golson to win the job in that situation, bc it will be apples to apples rather than apples to oranges.

The biggest thing in Golsons favor is I believe we have two winnable games before we hit the gauntlet. Normally its never good to throw a green guy to the wolves, so this situation may allow BK to start him without having to pressure cook him from the start

 

[DANsanity15]

1. Davaris Daniels
2. Lo Wood
3. Bennett Jackson
4. E. Golson
5. Kendall Moore

 

[greyhammer90]

1)Everett Golson
2)Everett G.
3)Everett
4)Golson
5)E. Golson

This team needs a playmaker at QB. We get that and our deficiencies get much more manageable.

 

[johnnykillz]

1) Terry Tate - self explanatory (and they thought Manti had a hard time stepping up as captain)

2) ACamp - what a whiner non-posting pansy these days

3) HCTI - totally jockied to be voted funnier than myself, which meant I had to vote for myself which is total bullshit than still lost

4) Bogtrotter - I mean drop the crack pipe you non-coherent/improper use of quotation using jarhead

5) DShans - veteran ability minus work ethic or is it minus geritol

 

[irishog77]

1) Terry Tate - self explanatory (and they thought Manti had a hard time stepping up as captain)

2) ACamp - what a whiner non-posting pansy these days

3) HCTI - totally jockied to be voted funnier than myself, which meant I had to vote for myself which is total bullshit than still lost

4) Bogtrotter - I mean drop the crack pipe you non-coherent/improper use of quotation using jarhead

5) DShans - veteran ability minus work ethic or is it minus geritol

Good list, Johnny. But I think you need to kick of these fellers out and make room for trinity. You're giving ACamp a hard time for his lack of presence...well what about trinity????? Dude's been a total no show. And what makes it even harder to swallow is that this is height of the List-Making-Season!!! We've been dying to know all about who's at the top of all of trinity's lists...but to no avail.

More trinity.

 

[greyhammer90]

Good list, Johnny. But I think you need to kick of these fellers out and make room for trinity. You're giving ACamp a hard time for his lack of presence...well what about trinity????? Dude's been a total no show. And what makes it even harder to swallow is that this is height of the List-Making-Season!!! We've been dying to know all about who's at the top of all of trinity's lists...but to no avail.

More trinity.

So you're saying that Trinity should be at the top of his list?

 

[irishog77]

Trinity is, and always will be, at the top of my list. I think he should probably be at the top of Johnny's list. I hope that trinity places himself at the top of his own list. But he should be at the top of our list.

 

[TerryTate]

He hasn't posted since Greenberry went to Houston

 

[johnnykillz]

He hasn't posted since Greenberry went to Houston

I'm actually worried about him.

BTW guys, the topic is "unproven."

If someone wants to start a "proven" thread I'll place Trinity where he belongs.

#uno baby.

 

[GBdomer]

Anybody who messes with Trinity messes with me.

 

[TerryTate]

I'm actually worried about him.

BTW guys, the topic is "unproven."

If someone wants to start a "proven" thread I'll place Trinity where he belongs.

#uno baby.

He was on the site today. He's still kicking

 

[NDinFL]

Guess what.

 

[GBdomer]

Guess what.

Did we ever figure out if Koyack has any potential. I am still waiting for BGIF to get back to me on this one.

 

[NDinFL]

Did we ever figure out if Koyack has any potential. I am still waiting for BGIF to get back to me on this one.

I've been hearing things that he's at the top of BGIF's list

 

[ThePiombino]

1. QB position - either Golson or Hendrix need to step up and allow this offense to be what it can be.

2. CB position - our corners are going to be tested early and often, and why shouldn't they be?! The sooner one or two guys step up the sooner we can start to get aggressive with blitzes. Blitzing is the catalyst for defensive playmaking.

3. RB position - not Cierre, we know what he CAN do. We need a good change of pace back. Big question where that's going to come from with Mahone being a true frosh and Roberson being a huge question mark with his injury recovery. I just don't see Riddick, Russell, or McDaniel being that Gray/Hughes-style change of pace that would be needed.

4. WR position - no Floyd, who steps up? DD? JG? RT? DN? *fingers crossed - just six more hours*

5. OLB positions - we'll be in great shape if we can start to see dividends from Ishaq and maybe TN, as well as Shembo emerging big time - and I do think we'll hear his name A LOT this year.

 

[eNDzone]

Trinity went missing when we were discussing getting the IE guys together for a game this year. I think he is spending all his time right now working on the Bagpipes.

 

[Patulski]

Shepard (S)
Jackson (Cb)
Wood (Cb)
Daniels (Wr)
Golson (QB)

 

[NDhoosier]

Shepard (S)

Say what? Shepard is good, but I dont think he would make a good safety...

 

[kmoose]

Highschool football doesn't matter? So why not just recruit the best athlete and make him your QB? He won't learn anything until he plays at college speed anyway.

That's the whole point. It's not that High School reps don't matter at all. It's that College reps are more important; because of the speed of the game, complexity of the defenses, changing coverages, etc. In that sense, Golson is WAY behind the curve. He hasn't taken a single snap in a game situation, in College. Hendrix has. So, in terms of the reps that matter most, Hendrix is WAY ahead of Golson.

 

[Old Man Mike]

"Have to" is a strong and vague criterion. "Have to" in order to what? ND win all its games? ND win ten games? ND get to a BCS game? ND look like an improving top twenty team? ND looking like a well-functioning dangerous team win or lose?

I'll take the simple country road of "a well-functioning dangerous team, win or lose". If that's a goal, then:

A). one of Golson, Hendrix, Kiel;
B). two of Lombard, Prestwood, Nichols, NMartin [as I believe Hegarty will back up Cave];
C). one of Daniels, Ferguson, Brown;

That is enough to make us extremely dangerous offensively. If there's an injury, of course another next-man-in would have to step up.

D). two of Shepard, Brown, Atkinson, Jackson, Wood, Hardy, Prosise;
E). one of Councell, Spond, Niklas, Baratti.

As you see, I believe that Diaco will figure out Mike, Will, and Cat with folks like Te'o, Fox/Grace/Moore, and Shembo/Williams, but we will still be in "Wonderingland" at Dog. But with corners and a well-functioning Dog, we'll be very dangerous defensively.

F). Brindza ... consistency on KOs and FGs;
G). Special teams coach to figure out punt returns.

To complete the controversy, I'll choose Golson over Hendrix for "A"; Lombard & Prestwood for "B"; Daniels for "C", but both Ferguson and Brown to play significantly; Shepard and Brown for "D"; Councell at "E", but lots of Jamoris-style gimmicks at both Dog and Will; Brindza to settle down, not try to over-kick and get real good at it; and a "miracle upgrade" in punt returning schema, as the staff works on the theories all off-season so as not to be embarrassed in that area any more. Part of that will be a much more dangerous punt rush, which causes rushed returnable kicks.

Established players like Fox will take a real positive step up on pass defense, and Shembo will win Cat and have a smasher of a season. The left side of the line plus TEs will become a monster, and running yardage will be massive there. Who knows who will back up Cierre, but any of Riddick, GAIII, McDaniel, Mahone, Russell [both these youngsters seem VERY good; admittedly they'll have to learn the blitz blocking], and Carlisle [?], or even CamR will be WAY more effective with the new QB running threat and wider offense and Sweep-Away left side of the line.

How many wins does this transfer into? No guess --- just good and "dangerous-to-opponent-morale" level effectiveness every game.