'12 NJ CB Yuri Wright (Colorado Verbal)

[Bogtrotter07]

Legally, I think ND would have had a hard time admitting a kid who got kicked out of high school. In the final analysis I think it had more to do with the results of his actions than a utilitarian debate about the actions themselves.

 

[Irishnuke]

Legally, I think ND would have had a hard time admitting a kid who got kicked out of high school. In the final analysis I think it had more to do with the results of his actions than a utilitarian debate about the actions themselves.

He wasn't arrested. Assuming he transferred into a different school and had met the same academic requirements there shouldn't be any legal issue.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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Originally Posted by Bogtrotter07
Legally, I think ND would have had a hard time admitting a kid who got kicked out of high school. In the final analysis I think it had more to do with the results of his actions than a utilitarian debate about the actions themselves.

He wasn't arrested. Assuming he transferred into a different school and had met the same academic requirements there shouldn't be any legal issue.

Exactly; but he didn't. He got kicked out. And none of us know how close, or with how much to spare he met the academic standards. Didn't he transfer to Don Bosco from another school?

 

[ThePiombino]

Exactly; but he didn't. He got kicked out. And none of us know how close, or with how much to spare he met the academic standards. Didn't he transfer to Don Bosco from another school?

I think I heard on the last Power Hour that he transferred to Ramsey High School.

 

[jimmymac]

Haha that's pretty funny my roommate went to Ramsey.

 

[RDU Irish]

Let's hope he can be an example for kids (and young adults) to use better discretion in what you post online/Twitter/Facebook/instant messaging.... pretty much anything that is put in writing or video with you as the creator. Unfortunately, he will probably be an obscure by-line for schools that were in the running and not much else.

It isn't like he was forever screwed by this, worst case he could JUCO and transfer to any major university. A year or two of keeping his nose clean would have opened plenty of doors.

I just have a really hard time arguing for ND taking any kid who was kicked out of school, immediately after it happens.

As for the "not like he killed anybody" argument... seriously? Get some f-ing class. Colleges are essentially "hiring" ambassadors/representatives of the university at a cost of upwards of $250K (yes state schools have the same cost as public, they are just subsidized by states). Anyone with common sense does a basic internet search of prospective employees, this type of garbage would get your resume thrown out pretty quick regardless of whatelse you bring to the table.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Let's hope he can be an example for kids (and young adults) to use better discretion in what you post online/Twitter/Facebook/instant messaging.... pretty much anything that is put in writing or video with you as the creator. Unfortunately, he will probably be an obscure by-line for schools that were in the running and not much else.

It isn't like he was forever screwed by this, worst case he could JUCO and transfer to any major university. A year or two of keeping his nose clean would have opened plenty of doors.

I just have a really hard time arguing for ND taking any kid who was kicked out of school, immediately after it happens.

As for the "not like he killed anybody" argument... seriously? Get some f-ing class. Colleges are essentially "hiring" ambassadors/representatives of the university at a cost of upwards of $250K (yes state schools have the same cost as public, they are just subsidized by states). Anyone with common sense does a basic internet search of prospective employees, this type of garbage would get your resume thrown out pretty quick regardless of whatelse you bring to the table.

Each point is dead on.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

This just struck me as kind of funny... Having watched some recruiting videos the past few days here and there, the music that is attached to "recruits" videos is just as offensive (to some) as the tweets that Yuri put out there. Why is nothing happening there? Where's the public outcry? Where's the outrage? Who are the idiots that produce these things for the athletes and allow such heinous messages to be put out there?

Yuri was made an example of, but it looks as if he's the exception to the accepted "rule".

 

[Bogtrotter07]

See, I have noted that in the past. Why? Why would anyone want that associated with them, unless they didn't know any better. Or didn't know or care how other people think.

Of course the big difference is the recruits were not saying that; I saw the quotes. They were not just lyrics. Women, gays, etc., were just objects. Period.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The general content of Yuri's tweets has been common in locker rooms and barracks since time immemorial.

Given that our coaching staff had a long-standing relationship with him and were still actively pursuing him prior to Twittergate is strong circumstantial evidence that there's nothing deficient about his character.

He's a 17-year-old kid who, as a junior, was virtually unknown. The only people who followed him on Twitter and Facebook were his friends. Like 99.999% of those on the internet, he could post whatever he wanted with virtually no consequences, because like most high school kids, he wasn't of consequence to the public.

Then 2011 rolls around and strangers start "friending" him on Facebook and requesting permission to follow his Twitter account. His new-found celebrity is cool, but he doesn't think much about it. After all, aside from fielding lots of phone calls from coaches and recruiting analysts, not much has changed about his day to day life.

Lo and behold, typical locker room banter is offensive to women, homosexuals, etc. A depressingly large number of those people who proactively reached out to Yuri for permission to follow him on social networks expected him to have a level of media savvy that eludes most politicians.

I don't think ND could have taken him after Twittergate because it would have been bad publicity for the school and if Yuri ever got into trouble for something more serious later... he was a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

But I don't believe Twittergate exposed some serious deficiency in his character, nor do I believe it's reasonable to expect a 17-year-old kid to gracefully transition from anonymous high school student to celebrity in less than a year.

 

[BGIF]

This just struck me as kind of funny... Having watched some recruiting videos the past few days here and there, the music that is attached to "recruits" videos is just as offensive (to some) as the tweets that Yuri put out there. Why is nothing happening there? Where's the public outcry? Where's the outrage? Who are the idiots that produce these things for the athletes and allow such heinous messages to be put out there?

Yuri was made an example of, but it looks as if he's the exception to the accepted "rule".

And there you have it, Yuri believed HE was the exception, Don Bosco didn't.

 

[Rhode Irish]

And there you have it, Yuri believed HE was the exception, Don Bosco didn't.

I don't think Yuri believed he was the exception. He didn't do anything everyone else didn't do. Don Bosco definitely made him an example, but that is just random luck. The kid got screwed, bottom line.

 

[BGIF]

I don't think Yuri believed he was the exception. He didn't do anything everyone else didn't do. Don Bosco definitely made him an example, but that is just random luck. The kid got screwed, bottom line.

As your parents probably told you, it's not about what everyone else does or doesn't do. It about what he did and how he handled it when confronted.

I have some familarity with Don Bosco. It wasn't the tweets that got him expelled. He was counseled more than once to desist. He CHOSE to challenge authority. The kid screwed himself.

IF you chose to tell the partners in your firm that company policy doesn't apply to you, you better have a job offer in hand. Otherwise good luck at those subsequent interviews when you tell them you were made "an example", "you got screwed" because you refused to comply with policy. You won't get a call back.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

As your parents probably told you, it's not about what everyone else does or doesn't do. It about what he did and how he handled it when confronted.

I have some familarity with Don Bosco. It wasn't the tweets that got him expelled. He was counseled more than once to desist. He CHOSE to challenge authority. The kid screwed himself.

IF you chose to tell the partners in your firm that company policy doesn't apply to you, you better have a job offer in hand. Otherwise good luck at those subsequent interviews when you tell them you were made "an example", "you got screwed" because you refused to comply with policy. You won't get a call back.

I can agree with this, but I also see RhodeIrish's point too.. hell, I remember in high school some star athletes got caught drinking during school, smoking pot before school and getting a DUI and they didn't get kicked out of school lol (I guess that has something to say about my high school more so than anything lol).. Idk, I guess I can see what you're saying BGIF, I just feel bad for the kid and a part of me just feels like he got the raw end of the deal.. but hopefully he lands on his feet, it's all you can hope for