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Irish YJ

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Coach D's big board is way out there. Is this suppose to be those on the board just for ND, or a look at all national recruit rankings. Just asking as it's filled with ND guys. Chris Brown #18 nationally? He's not even listed as a top 20 WR on any of the boards. I do think he is the sleeper of this class though.
 

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Prater taking a visit? Anyone heard? I think Sapp reported we are getting a visit from someone.
 

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Coach D's big board is way out there. Is this suppose to be those on the board just for ND, or a look at all national recruit rankings. Just asking as it's filled with ND guys. Chris Brown #18 nationally? He's not even listed as a top 20 WR on any of the boards. I do think he is the sleeper of this class though.

I think it's ND offers not nationally.
 

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Thats what I've been thinking. He doesnt have great ball skills though unlike Prosise. That would be my only concern. I want a ball hawking Safety.

As good as ball skills as Prosise no. But I heard he has good ball skills and used to play basketball which usually translates well to football ball skills wise. My opinion of course.
 

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As good as ball skills as Prosise no. But I heard he has good ball skills and used to play basketball which usually translates well to football ball skills wise. My opinion of course.

Another name we shouldn't forget about is Jalen Brown. He ran a 4.37 I believe at fall camp and is 6'1" he could very well be the corner opposite Tee and put Wright at FS.
 

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Another name we shouldn't forget about is Jalen Brown. He ran a 4.37 I believe at fall camp and is 6'1" he could very well be the corner opposite Tee and put Wright at FS.

And dont forget that how much Floyd talked about how well he covered him in practice. I know Mike wasn't the fastest guy but he is very physical. I do think Jalen is a starter from game one next year.
 

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And dont forget that how much Floyd talked about how well he covered him in practice. I know Mike wasn't the fastest guy but he is very physical. I do think Jalen is a starter from game one next year.

Bennett Jackson is also a physical specimen. 6'1" and also runs a 4.4.
 

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I think it's ND offers not nationally.

Thanks guys. What I thought, but seeing the ranking of some guys just doesn't make sense in either context. Shumate at 44? really? Another reason I don't care for ESPN's ISD....
 

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Thanks guys. What I thought, but seeing the ranking of some guys just doesn't make sense in either context. Shumate at 44? really? Another reason I don't care for ESPN's ISD....

ISD is not affiliated with ESPN. And as people have said, Coach D's board only includes kid's ND pursued, not every kid in the nation. It shows you how ND did based on its own priorities, and how well they evaluated.
 

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ISD is not affiliated with ESPN. And as people have said, Coach D's board only includes kid's ND pursued, not every kid in the nation. It shows you how ND did based on its own priorities, and how well they evaluated.

How does Coach D know exactly how ND ranked its offered players? I'd think that would be pretty closely held information.
 

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It's their opinion. Coach D's board is ISD's own personal ratings on ability and fit. He's kind of known for it. No one knows how ND ranks it's players internally.
 

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It's their opinion. Coach D's board is ISD's own personal ratings on ability and fit. He's kind of known for it. No one knows how ND ranks it's players internally.

No one?

Epitome would probably argue that.
 

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Another name we shouldn't forget about is Jalen Brown. He ran a 4.37 I believe at fall camp and is 6'1" he could very well be the corner opposite Tee and put Wright at FS.

Agree. They said Kelly multiple times during practices this season told Cooks that Jalen is going to be special.
 

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I've heard, as confirmed by Irish Chocolate today, that Jalen is very talented but just needs a little urgency. There will be plenty of that next year.

Remember too that Josh Attkinson is as fast as George.

Between Wood, Jackson, Brown, Attkinson, Tee, and hopefully Wright, Poole, or Darby, we'll find two that can can play. Now that we have an actual DLine, I am not so concerned.
 
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I've heard, as confirmed by Irish Chocolate today, that Jalen is very talented but just needs a little urgency. There will be plenty of that next year.

Remember too that Josh Attkinson is as fast as George.


Between Wood, Jackson, Brown, Attkinson, Tee, and hopefully Wright, Poole, or Darby, we'll find two that can can play. Now that we have an actual DLine, I am not so concerned.

Pretty sure that's not true.
 

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I suppose that all this has room for debate, but it seems to me to be splitting hairs.

100m: George 10.61sec. // Josh 10.79sec.
200m: Josh 21.65sec // George 21.92sec.

Both look like a blur to me.
 
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I suppose that all this has room for debate, but it seems to me to be splitting hairs.

100m: George 10.61sec. // Josh 10.79sec.
200m: Josh 21.65sec // George 21.92sec.

Both look like a blur to me.

Perhaps you're right.

"There was never a question about Atkinson’s speed, or whether or not he was fast enough for the position. Atkinson has been timed as fast as a 10.59 in the 100 meter dash. "

In the Film Room: Josh Atkinson

Looks like a good read but I didn't have time to look through it. I believe they're talking about Josh, though, when they mention the 10.59.
 

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may be wrong, but i've been under the impression that bennett had been working/training to take over the boundary this year.

any merit to moving him to the field, with jalen, should tee turn out to be as good as advertised? now you have possibly 3 good cover guys with perhaps the possibility of playing more man to man. And then (fingers crossed) throw Darby into the mix.
 

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may be wrong, but i've been under the impression that bennett had been working/training to take over the boundary this year.

My impression as well.

any merit to moving him to the field, with jalen, should tee turn out to be as good as advertised?

Jalen and Bennett are very similar in terms of physical profile and speed. I'd imagine our 2nd best CB would take over the field; if Tee takes the Boundary as the #1, that'd probably be Bennett.
 

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My impression as well.



Jalen and Bennett are very similar in terms of physical profile and speed. I'd imagine our 2nd best CB would take over the field; if Tee takes the Boundary as the #1, that'd probably be Bennett.

i'm worried that we're going to put too much emphasis on learning one spot (meaning one in the boundary and one in the field b/t jalen and bennett) i really hope the staff puts a strong emphasis on ensuring the two best guys are going to be on the field and the 3rd learns both. may be risky, but if you got your 11 best guys on the field that'll give you atleast a decent shot.
 

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Perhaps you're right.

"There was never a question about Atkinson’s speed, or whether or not he was fast enough for the position. Atkinson has been timed as fast as a 10.59 in the 100 meter dash. "

In the Film Room: Josh Atkinson

Looks like a good read but I didn't have time to look through it. I believe they're talking about Josh, though, when they mention the 10.59.

Their 40, 100, and 200 times were pretty indistinguishable. My only point is that we have a lot of speed at CB.

I was surprised to hear Jalen was so fast.
 

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hopefully that speed isn't just track speed, GA3 i think proved his speed, but the other guys are TBD still
 

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i'm worried that we're going to put too much emphasis on learning one spot (meaning one in the boundary and one in the field b/t jalen and bennett) i really hope the staff puts a strong emphasis on ensuring the two best guys are going to be on the field and the 3rd learns both. may be risky, but if you got your 11 best guys on the field that'll give you atleast a decent shot.

I don't think there much difference between BCB and FCB, as far as learning the position.

As I understand it, the BCB should have better coverage skills, and the FCB should be faster.
 

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I don't think there much difference between BCB and FCB, as far as learning the position.

As I understand it, the BCB should have better coverage skills, and the FCB should be faster.

field i'd say is faster/more athletic, while boundary is cover guy/good tackler in space. that's my take whatever it's worth.
 

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I don't think there much difference between BCB and FCB, as far as learning the position.

As I understand it, the BCB should have better coverage skills, and the FCB should be faster.

I was wondering that myself. That sounds right since the FCB will be playing more in space. He would need to be able to react quicker and make up ground. It's also more likely that the BCB won't have safety help over the top because the BS is going to provide some run support too.

Does this sound correct?
 

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I was wondering that myself. That sounds right since the FCB will be playing more in space. He would need to be able to react quicker and make up ground. It's also more likely that the BCB won't have safety help over the top because the BS is going to provide some run support too.

Does this sound correct?

there's a ton of different perspectives, depending on coverage schemes probably, but that sounds pretty good.
 

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I was wondering that myself. That sounds right since the FCB will be playing more in space. He would need to be able to react quicker and make up ground. It's also more likely that the BCB won't have safety help over the top because the BS is going to provide some run support too.

Does this sound correct?

there's a ton of different perspectives, depending on coverage schemes probably, but that sounds pretty good.

I think the above explanations for BCB and FCB are about right. The amount of WR's on the field (or TE's), the ability and/or size of those WR's, the spot of the ball (in the middle say, as opposed to on a hash), defensive blitzes, and many other factors all play into it. So I don't think there is often a strict, hard and fast explanation for BCB and FCB.
 
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