ND BCS Scenario?

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Also if #8 Houston gets upset @ Tulsa, or #7 Boise St looses to Wyoming they would fall the necessary distance. An example of that would be this past poll dropped Clemson from #7 to #17 after getting blown out by an unranked NC St. team. One of these scenarios help with the big 10 mess of Michigan St/winner of Penn St and Wisconsin.
 
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If Texas beats Baylor, that could help us with one more spot as well.
 
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Lets not forget that WE need a convincing win against the trees for any of this to happen. A nailbiter probably won't do the trick, I'm thinking we'd need a 10 point margin for it to look good enough to make a jump.
 
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Could some of you, not all, but some please learn to actually read before ever posting again.

Sometimes I am embarrased to be a ND fan when on this site. The OP was simply asking what it would take to get into the BCS. 9 wins and a top 14 ranking is the only answer he needed. I didnt see him making any predictions, or asking for any for that matter.

I forgot Stanford was the 85 Bears. According to some of you, I am extremely confused why this game is even going to be played.

The negativety is getting to be overwhelming.
 
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PADOMERNUT said:
Could some of you, not all, but some please learn to actually read before ever posting again.

Sometimes I am embarrased to be a ND fan when on this site. The OP was simply asking what it would take to get into the BCS. 9 wins and a top 14 ranking is the only answer he needed. I didnt see him making any predictions, or asking for any for that matter.

I forgot Stanford was the 85 Bears. According to some of you, I am extremely confused why this game is even going to be played.

The negativety is getting to be overwhelming.
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Thank you.

Although I think that the OP was probably wanting to know which teams we needed to lose/win for the #14 rank to be possible...

That being said, if Notre Dame had been able to cut even one mistake per game out of their first two this year, we would be a top 10 team right now, even with a loss to what has proven to be a pretty solid usc team. I'm not saying that we deserve that ranking, or that those first two games weren't our fault, or anything like that. However, if Stanford vs. Notre Dame was a top 10 matchup, I doubt everyone would be so negative as was mentioned above. Maybe it's true, and we don't belong anywhere near a BCS game, but I have to think the feeling would be different had we just had a few things go our way early in the season.

Do I think that our secondary and linebackers will have trouble with Luck and his TEs? Yes.
Do I think our chances are hurt along with Jonas Gray? Yup.
Does that mean I think we have absolutely no chance against Stanford? No.

Regardless of all of the ups and downs we've had this year, we still have a pretty darn good football team.

Have a little hope. If I have to eat my words on Saturday, then so be it, but I won't be sitting on my couch being depressing while #22 Notre Dame takes on #6 Stanford.
 
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We can beat anybody on any given day. We were favored in every game we played so far, there are only 2 teams better than everybody else. If we beat Stanford it won't be an upset to me . It will just be what should have been this whole year.
 
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I just saw this thread and thought I would get a good punchline when I opened it...

sadly... the joke's on me.
 
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On a non ND note, and being I unfortunately live in Michigan, the big debate today was with MSU and U of M. I guess that if MSU loses in the Big 10 championship and U of M beats their soft team they play next week, that would leave U of M at 10-2 and MSU at 10-3. So realistically MSU would win their division, and make it to their championship game, beat U of M during the season, and still not get a BCS while a 10-2 U of M would most likely. There is something very screwed up with that scenario.
 
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in that scenario I believe U of M would go to the Big 10 Championship game and get smoked by Wisconsin.
 
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Irish2015 said:
in that scenario I believe U of M would go to the Big 10 Championship game and get smoked by Wisconsin.
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No, what he is saying is that MSU losing in the Big10 Championship game would mean that UM would punch their own ticket to the BCS via a win this week vs OSU. MSU is already locked into the championship game vs the winner of the PSU/Wisky game this week.
 
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phork said:
No, what he is saying is that MSU losing in the Big10 Championship game would mean that UM would punch their own ticket to the BCS via a win this week vs OSU. MSU is already locked into the championship game vs the winner of the PSU/Wisky game this week.
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If MSU lost but Michigan won, would Michigan go to the Big10 Championship game?
 
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phork said:
No, what he is saying is that MSU losing in the Big10 Championship game would mean that UM would punch their own ticket to the BCS via a win this week vs OSU. MSU is already locked into the championship game vs the winner of the PSU/Wisky game this week.
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in that scenario I believe U of M would go to the Big 10 Championship game and get smoked by Wisconsin.
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With them both winning this last weekend MSU is already locked into the game so thats not possible. What i'm saying is U of M locks a BCS bid with a win this weekend, yet when MSU plays in the B1G championship game, if they lose they won't get one. Even tho they beat U of M this season, finished above them and won their division. Just doesn't seem right.
 
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Irish2015 said:
If MSU lost but Michigan won, would Michigan go to the Big10 Championship game?
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Broseph. MSU is already in the game, its already locked in no matter what happens this weekend.
 
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I am shocked to see people saying they wouldn't want to go to a BCS bowl and would rather just settle on the Champs bowl. As a fan, I would rather see ND play a better team and somehow pull off an upset then lose to some **** tier ACC team when we are already 3-0 against the ACC. I'd be more afraid of losing to a game like that and even more hurt our chances of landing recruits, if that is even slightly what BK gives a damn about at that point. You play to win at the highest stakes and for the current players, anything less and they missed their goal...he's been saying that all season now.
 
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kjk184 said:
I am shocked to see people saying they wouldn't want to go to a BCS bowl and would rather just settle on the Champs bowl. As a fan, I would rather see ND play a better team and somehow pull off an upset then lose to some **** tier ACC team when we are already 3-0 against the ACC. I'd be more afraid of losing to a game like that and even more hurt our chances of landing recruits, if that is even slightly what BK gives a damn about at that point. You play to win at the highest stakes and for the current players, anything less and they missed their goal...he's been saying that all season now.
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So you would rather see us get dismantled by a superior BCS team in front of recruits that are deciding between those schools, rather than a manageable win vs the dregs of the ACC?
 
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Your assuming we'd get crushed, if we pulled Michigan Houston or any team thats not Bama LSU and Oregon then I think we'd have a shot.
 
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phork said:
So you would rather see us get dismantled by a superior BCS team in front of recruits that are deciding between those schools, rather than a manageable win vs the dregs of the ACC?
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I guess to answer your question, I will say yes I would but I don't see the reason why we get dismantled is because of our defense. How do teams like Iowa St or Baylor beat some of these BCS teams? It's a game and if anyone should know that over the years I would expect it to be ND fans. Anyone can win/lose on any given Saturday...I personally think its better to play the better competiton. If a recruit is basing his decision on the outcome of a football game, he is probably not smart enough to go to ND anyway.
 
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I guess to answer your question, I will say yes I would but I don't see the reason why we get dismantled is because of our defense. How do teams like Iowa St or Baylor beat some of these BCS teams? It's a game and if anyone should know that over the years I would expect it to be ND fans. Anyone can win/lose on any given Saturday...I personally think its better to play the better competiton. If a recruit is basing his decision on the outcome of a football game, he is probably not smart enough to go to ND anyway.
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You're my new hero... You've absolutely nailed it.

I've heard all season long re: possibly joining a conference and one of the arguments against it from many people was that joining up would have us playing a lesser schedule. Now we've got fans saying that they want us to play a lesser team so we don't get embarrassed. What's it gonna be, people? Do you want to play a tough schedule like we always have, ducking no one (Tradition.... Does that sound familiar anti joining a conference boys???) or hoping we just get by and play a lesser team in a second/third tier bowl with nothing to gain by winning. This whole argument is starting to make sense and shows the moral fiber which makes up some of Notre Dame Nation fan base (not all mind you). No wonder so many people friggin' hate us. To be the best, you have to beat the best....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
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kjk184 said:
I guess to answer your question, I will say yes I would but I don't see the reason why we get dismantled is because of our defense. How do teams like Iowa St or Baylor beat some of these BCS teams? It's a game and if anyone should know that over the years I would expect it to be ND fans. Anyone can win/lose on any given Saturday...I personally think its better to play the better competiton. If a recruit is basing his decision on the outcome of a football game, he is probably not smart enough to go to ND anyway.
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I agree that I'd always prefer to play a great team. The only thing I disagree with is that our defense would get absolutely embarrassed by Oregon's offense. But I'd give our team a fighter's chance against almost anyone else in the country.
 
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