Nov 5 | at Wake Forest

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Buster Bluth

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Plain simple Wake Forest first half had too much speed for our linebackers who can't maneuver fast enough in open space. So once again Slaughter was put in to add more speed on the edge. Secondly Kelly called a bad play last year giving up a easy FG and win for a higher risk pass. So his call having Ree's throw the trick pass for a intercpetion is another one of his poor calls. Finally let's not kid ourselves Kelly has a bad temper let us not make excuses for it we all see it. When I watch many of the college games on Saturday for the last few years all I see is speed speed speed and ask my self when the hell is Notre Dame going to recruit speed.

MLB's are slower everywhere. That's why the nickle and dime packages were invented.

It was a fine call. Floyd was wide open. Rees is just below average when it comes to throwing the ball deeper than 20 yards.
 

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BGIF, I can tell you with 100% certainty that CoachD has not been in favor of Crist throughout this whole thing and has been very objective about the 'controversy'. He has been critical of both QBs when warranted and has praised both QBs when warranted as well. He asked a completely fair and legitimate question. The problem was that it was like the 3rd or 4th 'negative' question in a row, from a media that wanted a blowout win and wasn't satisfied with an injury-riddled team that gutted out a road win against a pretty good team that was ranked at one time this year.

I wasn't a huge fan of Kelly's response, but it is being WAY overblown by fans on other Irish sites. It wasn't a 'tantrum', he didn't go off on CoachD, he didn't go on a 'tirade', he was just a little surly in his response (which again, I wasn't a fan of).

CoachD has been very supportive of Kelly in his articles, on the message boards, on Power Hour, and even in a face-to-face conversation I had with him before the USF game. I just think he asked the question at an unfortunate time, as Kelly by that time had had enough. I still think he did nothing wrong, and under different circumstances would have received a different answer with a different tone. Oh well...not a big deal really IMO...

Objective is how I recall CoachD when I communicated with him some years ago. Thanks for the background on the QB situation.
 

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I agree generally, esp. with the depleted defense; you can't underestimate the effect of injuries on the D-Line and Manti. On the other hand, I would have expected the offense would have controlled the LOS in the fourth quarter against an undersized WF line, but we didn't get that, either. Plus, it's a bit disappointing in that I had hopes they'd move into the top 25 with a trouncing of a 5-3 team. I know Kelly said he's not concerned about whether ND is 24th or 25th, and I understand that, but you aren't going to go from unranked to 15th in one jump, either. ND doesn't get many breaks from the pollsters, so you gotta exploit a break when you have one. I'd prefer to be 20th or so before the Stanford game. Not sure how you get there unless you lay a pretty good beating on a decent team.

Even with a 70-17 score we weren't going to get into the Top 25. There weren't enough teams ranked higher that cooperated with a loss. A Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina team with the same amount of losses is going to be ranked higher even if Sagarin or others rank our schedule tougher. UM even with another loss should be ranked higher. They own the head to head. We have to win but the guys above had lose, and lose more than once.
 

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MLB's are slower everywhere. That's why the nickle and dime packages were invented.

It was a fine call. Floyd was wide open. Rees is just below average when it comes to throwing the ball deeper than 20 yards.

He was?

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He was?

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I'd call that conclusive video evidence to the contrary...unless he was talking about the one against WF. He was pretty open, I thought.

And that reaction would be funny if it didn't still sting a bit.
 

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Yeah, I thought he was talking about the WF pass.

Rees can be erratic, but give him credit: the TD pass to Floyd was about as perfect a pass as a QB can throw. It was flawless.
 

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Yeah, I thought he was talking about the WF pass.

Rees can be erratic, but give him credit: the TD pass to Floyd was about as perfect a pass as a QB can throw. It was flawless.

I like the pass to Eifert in the seam as well. Eifert could have run for a 95 yd TD if he had more field.

Both passes were in the air for 25 yds, I hope that's a sign of things to come and not the best of the highlight reel.
 

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I like the pass to Eifert in the seam as well. Eifert could have run for a 95 yd TD if he had more field.

Both passes were in the air for 25 yds, I hope that's a sign of things to come and not the best of the highlight reel.

Yeah, that was nice, too. I wonder if those aren't the two of the toughest kinds of passes to throw -- the ones where there is only one spot and time where you can complete it and the ones where the receiver is wide open in a seam and free to the end zone so you don't want to clutch up and overthrow him.....
 
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I was talking about the Wake Forest play. I didn't think the Tulsa one was a flea flicker to begin with. I only remember the flea flickers being against Wake Forest and against Michigan in 2010.
 

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I was talking about the Wake Forest play. I didn't think the Tulsa one was a flea flicker to begin with. I only remember the flea flickers being against Wake Forest and against Michigan in 2010.

You remember correctly.
 

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He was?

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Wow! That brings back painful memories. I was about 10 feet to the right of where that video was taken. Just before that play, I was hugging my wife telling her we were going to get to see the winning field goal right in front of us and how great of a birthday present that would be. When I saw Rees drop back to pass, I knew we were doomed. Ugh!!! Still hurts.
 

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You could hold the defense just as responsible for two of those three losses(Michigan and USC) as you could the quarterback play. We're also 10-2 in Rees's starts, which would be good enough for a BCS berth. That's why I don't buy it.

Tommy put up 10 points against USC. The D did not give up that game... The D gave it up at Michigan.

Tommy is not 10-2. ND is 10-2.
 

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LETS GO IRISH!!!

LOL! I clicked on the game day thread, like a time machine, I'm back in last week.
 
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Wake is up 21-14 in the third hopefully they can hold on, make our win against them look a lot better!
 
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