'09 CA RB Cierre Wood

[Buster Bluth]

Absolutely! And they had that white guy too- Tre something who had a huge game against Florida or LSU the year before when the other guys were hurt.

The Arkansas backfield they had for 3 years was pretty sweet too with McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis!

McFadden, Jones, and Hillis

vs

Williams, Brown, and Jacobs (plus Jason Campbell at QB)

...maybe the best backfields ever?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I disagree with you guys...Vbucks bet that Wood will go higher in a draft than Jonas will.

 

[fitz_bu47]

THose backfields definitely have to be in the discussion of best ever, although I am sure some of the older ones are too. The SMU backfield before they got the death penalty was pretty nasty.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

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[Sherm Sticky]

THose backfields definitely have to be in the discussion of best ever, although I am sure some of the older ones are too. The SMU backfield before they got the death penalty was pretty nasty.

What about Tommy Frazier with Lawrence Philips and company. Tommy Frazier best option QB I've ever seen in my life.

 

[BeauBenken]

I disagree with you guys...Vbucks bet that Wood will go higher in a draft than Jonas will.

I don't think that that is anybody's argument though. People were saying if they both went into the draft this year that there is a strong chance that Gray gets graded higher.

There's also a good chance that Wood gets even better next year though and when he does decide to go to the draft he will be graded higher.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I don't think that that is anybody's argument though. People were saying if they both went into the draft this year that there is a strong chance that Gray gets graded higher.

There's also a good chance that Wood gets even better next year though and when he does decide to go to the draft he will be graded higher.

I still don't think so. Gray right now is a one season wonder. He hasn't carried a full load, has fumbling issues and isn't good in pass protection. Granted you can say all the same for Wood. But Wood has carried a full time load this season, he started last season, his pass protection is much better, but he still has a fumbling problem. I think you all are overlooking the inept production Jonas produced his first 3 years.

 

[BeauBenken]

I still don't think so. Gray right now is a one season wonder. He hasn't carried a full load, has fumbling issues and isn't good in pass protection. Granted you can say all the same for Wood. But Wood has carried a full time load this season, he started last season, his pass protection is much better, but he still has a fumbling problem. I think you all are overlooking the inept production Jonas produced his first 3 years.

Not really. lol But Jonas has been damn good this year. Except for that one dreadful carry. You know, THAT one.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Gray right now is a one season wonder. He hasn't carried a full load, has fumbling issues and isn't good in pass protection.

He has only fumbled once this year, and Kelly has been rightfully increasing his load. On what basis can you claim that Jonas is bad in pass protection? Kelly recently complimented both Cierre and Jonas on being complete backs without any situational weaknesses.

This season he's carried 40 times for 326 yards at a rate of 8.2 YPC. YPC is the money stat; if you're putting up those kinds of numbers against ND's schedule, NFL scouts are going to be looking at you.

Granted you can say all the same for Wood. But Wood has carried a full time load this season, he started last season, his pass protection is much better, but he still has a fumbling problem.

Again, Wood has only fumbled once this season. We have no cause for complaint from either of our RBs.

I think you all are overlooking the inept production Jonas produced his first 3 years.

Jonas averaged 4.3 YPC in 2008, 3.5 YPC in 2009, and 4.1 YPC in 2010. Given the OLs he was running behind, those are decent numbers.

He fumbled at lot early in this career, which caused Weis to bury him on the depth chart. This is the first season where he's really had to chance to prove himself again, and I'd say he's doing a damned fine job.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Not really. lol But Jonas has been damn good this year. Except for that one dreadful carry. You know, THAT one.

Even that arguably wasn't his fault. He got stood up by 3 USF defenders and stripped by a 4th when the refs failed to whistle the play stopped due to forward progress.

 

[IrishGreenTomatoes]

Kinda feel we have overrated Cierre just a bit...kid has only had 1 decent game.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Kinda feel we have overrated Cierre just a bit...kid has only had 1 decent game.

Only one decent game??

Uh. I think the word you're looking for is great.

"One great game"

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Kinda feel we have overrated Cierre just a bit...kid has only had 1 decent game.

Thus far, Cierre has rushed 103 times for 584 yards at 5.67 YPC. He's also scored 5 TDs.

Considering the DLs we've faced, those are excellent numbers. Cierre is not overrated.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I'm just saying guys...I'm kind of a draft nick and I haven't heard Jonas's name mentioned once this year from any scouts, but I've heard Cierre's name mentioned many times by different scouts. Shrug.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Thus far, Cierre has rushed 103 times for 584 yards at 5.67 YPC. He's also scored 5 TDs.

Considering the DLs we've faced, those are excellent numbers. Cierre is not overrated.

Yeah, Wood is on pace to rush for 1,400 yards. And unlike basically everybody else on the season leaders list, his average opponent is probably going to be getting easier rather than harder.

As for Gray, I completely buy that he might be a higher rated runner. The NFL likes one cut backs with size and linear speed.

 

[AlbuquerqueIrishFan]

Dudes going to hit the 1,000 yard mark and really earn some respect nationally and apparently on this board as well.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'm just saying guys...I'm kind of a draft nick and I haven't heard Jonas's name mentioned once this year from any scouts, but I've heard Cierre's name mentioned many times by different scouts. Shrug.

Cierre's been on the NFL's radar since last season. Jonas is just now starting to make some noise. I'm sure JG will be getting plenty of love by the end of the season.

 

[irishog77]

McFadden, Jones, and Hillis

vs

Williams, Brown, and Jacobs (plus Jason Campbell at QB)

...maybe the best backfields ever?

That's a good question! I'd give Arkansas a slight edge because for most of those guys' time, Matt Jones was the QB, and he was a definite run threat as well with 4.3 speed in his own right. Also because the one year he was at Auburn (Juco transfer then transferred out), Jacobs couldn't really ever move up the depth chart and didn't get many carries or opportunities.

I'm sure there were some pretty bad @ss backfields pre WWII and then in the wishbone years at Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, etc. I know Army had Doc Blanchard and Glen Davis in the late 40's. Of course the 4 Horsemen were awesome too. I know somebody mentioned SMU. Dickerson and James were awesome there and very good in the pros as well (one being a HOF and could've broken the all time rushing record if he weren't a head case). That Nebraska backfield was pretty good too. I loved Tommy Frazier as well, but I think his actual rushing numbers (and I'm going by memory here) weren't that amazing (of course his won-loss record was though). I'm pretty sure Ahman Green was a freshman Phillips last season there as well and stepped up quite a bit when Phillips was suspended. I think Nebraska also for a year or two in the early 80's had Mike Rozier, Roger Craig, and Irving Fryar all in the same backfield. I don't know what years Turner Gill started, but I guess he would've technically been there as well. I think Miami also had Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, and Willis McGahee all on the same team at one time. Jarrett Payton too, who actually did spend a year with the Titans. USC has had some amazing backfields too. I think Justin Fargas (played several years for the Raiders) was a senior Bush and White's FR year. I'm not sure if Charles White and Marcus Allen overlapped any. Oh yeah, I guess Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas were on the same team together too, but didn't really ever compose a backfield together.

I know I'm missing some great backfields (this was just off the top of my head), but if anybody else remembers some great backfields, feel free to throw them out here. Of course the best true overall backfield was ND when they had Tony Rice, Tony and Reggie Brooks, Ricky Waters, and Anthony Johnson! Not that I'm biased or anything though! Was Culver there as well in '89?

 

[NDPhilly]

I don't think Ciere has that 6th Gear. He certainly has enough speed but I expect his 40 to be closer to 4.5 then 4.4

 

[ulukinatme]

Has anyone mentioned that Cierre is currently 10th in the nation in rushing yards this season? When was the last time that's happened? To a lesser degree, Jonas is at 9th in the nation for yards per carry, due in large part to that big run against Pitt no doubt. While Cierre has obviously done most of the carries at 103, Jonas has a respectable number at 40 so it isn't like he did poorly on his other 39 carries.

I like Jonas running the ball, which is saying a lot considering I wanted to move him to 3rd string even before South Florida. Outside of "the fumble that dare not speak it's name," he's had a great year so far. People were expecting him to be Robert Hughes. While he doesn't have the girth that Hughes had, he has more speed. Jonas is a great compliment to Cierre, the Purdue game helped show that. Cierre may not be any faster than Jonas, but he's extremely shifty while getting upfield. Jonas, on the other hand, has learned to use his strength well this year and get yards after contact.

 

[RyCo1983]

This boy can run!

How many yards do you think he can rack up against the undersized Air Force defense?

 

[ErieIrish13]

This boy can run!

How many yards do you think he can rack up against the undersized Air Force defense?

280 total.

130 for Jonas on 19 carries and 150 for cierre on 21 carries
and maybe a couple carries from theo

I think we run alot this weekend and take advantage of our oline vs their dline

 

[RyCo1983]

280 total.

130 for Jonas on 19 carries and 150 for cierre on 21 carries
and maybe a couple carries from theo

I think we run alot this weekend and take advantage of our oline vs their dline

Running for 300 on draws out of the shotgun makes me smile.
Let's see it again this week.

 

[anarin]

BOOM!

 

[NDinL.A.]

Kinda feel we have overrated Cierre just a bit...kid has only had 1 decent game.

He's just a troll who's been banned 3 times now. Pay it no mind...

 

[#1irishfan]

Season stats through 8 games

102 carries
1470 yds
14.41 yds per attempt(wow)
20 td

5 catches
175 yds
1 td

5 punt returns
49.8 YARDS PER RETURN
2 td

4 KO returns
47.6 YARDS PER RETURN
1 TD

Defense

37 tackles
3 ints
1 punt block

49.8 on punt returns?? What the??? are we waiting on

 

[SoIll]

stadium20status cierre wood
In this era u must have a mobile QB. #noexeptions

he than retweeted a fan #GOLSON

jab at tommy? haha

 

[Rocky2820]

stadium20status cierre wood
In this era u must have a mobile QB. #noexeptions

he than retweeted a fan #GOLSON

jab at tommy? haha

Don't like the jab if it's meant to be one, but I couldn't agree wth him more.

 

[Irish2015]

stadium20status cierre wood
In this era u must have a mobile QB. #noexeptions

he than retweeted a fan #GOLSON

jab at tommy? haha

Probably not a jab, just reality.

 

[NYMIKE6]

Not a good sign... This could mean that if by any chance (which i highly doubt) Tommy starts next season their could be mutiny...