Maybe there isn't as much smoke from Miami as we think

[DomerInHappyValley]

Purdue says*ex-Hurricane Robert Marve remains eligible - NCAA Football - SI.com

Says they contacted the NCAA and there were no issues despite the fact he was named as one of the players that received benefits.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah, not as much smoke and more of a blazing inferno of totally screwed pending the NCAA figuring out what the hell to do with both Miami and Paul Dee.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Yeah, not as much smoke and more of a blazing inferno of totally screwed pending the NCAA figuring out what the hell to do with both Miami and Paul Dee.

Well if it's true he received benefits and still plays at Purdue even though he is 2nd on the depth chart right now. I will have lost all respect for Purdue I thought they were the type of school trying to do it the right way, but without the mystique of ND to bring in the players they needed.

 

[Cali_domer]

I am a bit confused by that decision. Could Miami skate?

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I think the NCAA is just saying "We're still investigating and let you know when we're done".

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I am a bit confused by that decision. Could Miami skate?

What about that article suggests that Miami is going to skate???

 

[Cali_domer]

What about that article suggests that Miami is going to skate???

true.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

They're not going to just come out and rule Marve ineligible without a thorough inveatigation.. which by the looks of it is going to take forever. If they said he was ineligible they'd have to have a ruling for all those named and still playing. If indeed he received improper benefits he will eventually go down in flames with the rest.

 

[NDinL.A.]

They're not going to just come out and rule Marve ineligible without a thorough inveatigation.. which by the looks of it is going to take forever. If they said he was ineligible they'd have to have a ruling for all those named and still playing. If indeed he received improper benefits he will eventually go down in flames with the rest.

Yeah, not sure how anyone gets that Miami is going to skate. The NCAA will be forced to do something here...there is just WAY too much evidence out there. What Purdue does with Marve has very little bearing on what will happen to Miami.

 

[crzychris]

The NCAA likes to be thorough...especially in a case where if the allegations are proven true could end in the death penalty (yes, THE death penalty). If Miami is proven guilty here, this would be major violations at a time when they were on probation for committing major violations on a time when they were on probation (confusing huh?).

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until the NCAA does it's thing. This could very well be nothing. However, the punishment could be historic if it's true.

Allegations of NCAA violations could have Miami Hurricanes football flirting with the death penalty - ESPN

^^Pat Forde agrees with me

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

The NCAA likes to be thorough...especially in a case where if the allegations are proven true could end in the death penalty (yes, THE death penalty). If Miami is proven guilty here, this would be major violations at a time when they were on probation for committing major violations on a time when they were on probation (confusing huh?).

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until the NCAA does it's thing. This could very well be nothing. However, the punishment could be historic if it's true.

Allegations of NCAA violations could have Miami Hurricanes football flirting with the death penalty - ESPN

^^Pat Forde agrees with me

I got you this is practically the culture for them start adding up probation and years past probation it goes back almost 20 years.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

A good article by Matt Hinton on the apparent safety of the transferred 'Canes can be found here.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

A good article by Matt Hinton on the apparent safety of the transferred 'Canes can be found here.

Can someone, anyone, explain this to me?! Based on this writing, the kids who transferred from Miami are free and clear. Eventhough they broke rules and accepted benefits, the NCAA seems to be less worried about them and more worried about the U. I don't care if those kids are third string bench warmers at Akron now (no offense to Akron, it's just the first small school that comes to mind). If they broke the rules, they need to be punished. If they are eligible to play, the NCAA will look like a joke. There's way too much gray area and loopholes in the current system. As someone mentioned yesterday, the lack of control is "watering down" the brand that is college football.

 

[irish4ever]

The NCAA likes to be thorough...especially in a case where if the allegations are proven true could end in the death penalty (yes, THE death penalty). If Miami is proven guilty here, this would be major violations at a time when they were on probation for committing major violations on a time when they were on probation (confusing huh?).

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until the NCAA does it's thing. This could very well be nothing. However, the punishment could be historic if it's true.

Allegations of NCAA violations could have Miami Hurricanes football flirting with the death penalty - ESPN

^^Pat Forde agrees with me

And so do I. As stated in the article, they are a long way from knowing how this will all play out. But the death penalty is applicable for "repeat violators," and Miami would seem to fit that definition. IF the allegations become a proven fact, IMO Miani needs to have their a$$es handed to themselves ... death penalty! It may wake up a few others from "bending the rules" for current or potential student athletes!

 

[Zibby32]

Lets tap the breaks a little bit here.

Things we know:

1. NCAA is investigating. They are thorough, VERY THOROUGH. Which means none of this is near completion.

2. At this point there is more fire than smoke. Nevin Shapiro is a scorned former booster, has nothing to hide at this point.

3. The U is screwed. Look what they did to USC, and it was only one player. They will not get off on this. The NCAA is coming to a crossroads with these "benefits" situations and needs to start crushing punishments.

4. Al Golden is having a bad day...

 

[BurningRiver]

Allegations of NCAA violations could have Miami Hurricanes football flirting with the death penalty - ESPN

I don't know if this is possible or not, but I saw this and wondered--if they get the death penalty, what happens to our series with them we're supposed to play?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Purdue has done the precisely correct thing, pragmatically. By asking the NCAA for advice, and the NCAA responding, essentially, that this is an ongoing investigation which cannot assign conclusions yet, Purdue can play Marve without fear that it jeopardizes their season, whether Marve is included in guilty verdicts at the end of the process or not. Any school with Miami transfers should do the same.

Miami's own situation vis-a-vis the NCAA is different because they are the school investigated. Whether they play certain players or not, they will still be screwed as a program if the NCAA finds against them. They COULD choose to roll the dice and NOT play the "rumored" [at this point] players still around, in hopes of looking like better guys to the NCAA and getting slapped less, but then they risk punishing a player who might later be found not guilty. I'll bet Miami has asked the NCAA for advice on this, too, but we'll probably not hear of that "closed session".

 

[ndfi78]

USC was two players, Bush and Mayo

 

[Old Man Mike]

hmmmm.... according to a post by BGIF elsewhere, players like Robert Marve ARE a risk to the teams they transferred to, despite what Purdue said in their release. So, that puts an impossible guessing game burden on their new schools as to whether to play them or not.

 

[jdailey1981]

USC sucks! Cry on! The Hurricanes......about to be downgraded to tropical depressions