SBNation 2011 Season Preview: Notre Dame

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Your clearly a Crist apologist so i will be brief in this last post. Dayne is simply a disappointment for a 5 star QB. If you like you can blame the scheme. you can blame the defense, you can blame the coach, you can blame it on his first year starting , you can blame it a lack of running attack. It seems some Dayne Crist supporters have lost all objective standards and see all his glaring weaknesses as the fault of some EXTERNAL FORCE.

Are you high? It's seriously as if you didn't read anything anyone said and just labeled them an "apologist." I'm actually kinda upset I spent time reading your posts now. No matter what way you slice it Crist had better stats than Rees and the offense performed better with him in. And the coaches said all spring that Crist was looking the best. Sorry if he's a disappointment to you, but he's the best we've got and will end up being the starter until he gets hurt or plays poor enough to warrant replacement.
 

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Except for the wins under rees and what was shaping up as a NIGHTMARE season of losses under crist the stats are so similar it is absolutely ludicrous claiming some high degree of statistical advatage for crist based on PPG or some such. ---Look back at the threads after the navy game and see what all the crist fans were saying about dayne at that point. It seems ironic the strong finish under Tommy rees that saved the season has somehow magically worked to the benifit of Crists reputation.

As far as the coaches comments--- they were at best vague. And were often saying good things about both QBs. Rees has clearly had the comfort of coach kelly not only for his decision making, accuracy, comfort with the scheme and as KELLY AS SAID so often " He just wins"---a fairly important triat i think !

The fact that it seems to be all wonderful and peachy to call REES A BUM--he has no arm strength, he has no mobility , he's lucky the defens played so well , he only won becuase of other players efforts. ON AND ON criticism of rees is considered not only fair game but MANDATORY!----But an objective asseement of the many shortcomings of dayne crist is met with the " YOU MUST BE HIGH"!---Its amusing and illogical. Why so many have invested so much in a QB that has ACCOMPLISHED LITERALLY NOTHING! And yet are perfectly happy bashing and trashing the QB that saved the freakin season is a MYSTERY to me.

But no matter--Rees will be the man sooner or later---It is my view , fully understanding it is a minority opinion that REES will win the starting job and it won't really be that close.
 

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Except for the wins under rees and what was shaping up as a NIGHTMARE season of losses under crist the stats are so similar it is absolutely ludicrous claiming some high degree of statistical advatage for crist based on PPG or some such. ---Look back at the threads after the navy game and see what all the crist fans were saying about dayne at that point. It seems ironic the strong finish under Tommy rees that saved the season has somehow magically worked to the benifit of Crists reputation.

As far as the coaches comments--- they were at best vague. And were often saying good things about both QBs. Rees has clearly had the comfort of coach kelly not only for his decision making, accuracy, comfort with the scheme and as KELLY AS SAID so often " He just wins"---a fairly important triat i think !

The fact that it seems to be all wonderful and peachy to call REES A BUM--he has no arm strength, he has no mobility , he's lucky the defens played so well , he only won becuase of other players efforts. ON AND ON criticism of rees is considered not only fair game but MANDATORY!----But an objective asseement of the many shortcomings of dayne crist is met with the " YOU MUST BE HIGH"!---Its amusing and illogical. Why so many have invested so much in a QB that has ACCOMPLISHED LITERALLY NOTHING! And yet are perfectly happy bashing and trashing the QB that saved the freakin season is a MYSTERY to me.

But no matter--Rees will be the man sooner or later---It is my view , fully understanding it is a minority opinion that REES will win the starting job and it won't really be that close.


Rees is a back up. A damn good one at that. A starter? I dunno. He won't be come 9/3 against USF. The team did get a grip of how things should roll. The one time he played in the same scheme that BK wanted he blew the game! (Tulsa) BK, being the coach he is known for, made great adjustments parallel to the defense making huge strides as well as the running game. Rees simply had to manage a game. Do I stand behind Dayne? Damn right I do. He can play the QB spot better than Rees. Are we talking Heisman vs new guy? NO. Time will tell.

I was called out for saying Rees was a glorified back up. Which is fine by me. In my eyes he has yet to show he can run the system BK wants to run. He was trusted in doing so and failed. Game plan changed, thank goodness it had, and he won. I love having Rees as our backup. Not as our starter!
 

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Your clearly a Crist apologist so i will be brief in this last post. Dayne is simply a disappointment for a 5 star QB. If you like you can blame the scheme. you can blame the defense, you can blame the coach, you can blame it on his first year starting , you can blame it a lack of running attack. It seems some Dayne Crist supporters have lost all objective standards and see all his glaring weaknesses as the fault of some EXTERNAL FORCE.

I'll take 5-star Crist (playing like a 3-star, but showing 5-star potential) over 3-star Rees who has never done anything skill-wise to warrant being nothing other than a game-manager. Everyone understands that Rees went 4-0 as a starter, and Crist was only 4-4. He just offers so much more to the offense. Kelly is a QB and offensive guy. He does not want a game-manager who makes him run a blander, less dangerous offense. Crist also:

1) Ran for 4 touchdowns (which pathetically led the team), including a 29-yard run and added the dimension of the QB read to the offense.
2) Threw the ball 130 more times (and was asked to make much tougher throws) and still threw one less interception than Rees. Rees threw 3 picks twice in a game. Crist threw more than one pick once (he threw 2 against Navy.)

I'll take Crist short-hopping out passes and overthrowing Floyd on deep passes over Rees limiting the offense horribly.
 

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Who else thinks Hendrix could start?

Answer: me.

"Could" being the operative word here folks.
 

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Oh the great debate of 2011... It's hard to deny everything that Tommy accomplished at the end of last season. On the other hand, it is difficult to forget about the troubles Dayne had at the beginning of the season... I don't know who the starter will be on Sept 3rd, but I do know that this Irish team will be as fired up as we have seen them in years when the come roaring out of the tunnel. I agree that Dayne may need a comfidence booster, but I trust Kelly will make sure who ever his start is, has the self confidence to know they can go out there with the team behind them and know they can win the game. At this point, I think we will see Dayne with the start. I don't think there is any way we wont see him start. I loved how Tommy stepped up huge for us. But the senior will get the start.
 
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The team accomplished, not just Rees. Despite what the media would like everyone to believe, football is a 1 on 1 QB showdown. Rees played really, really bad at times and played worse than Crist overall. Good backup, but Rees will never be the starter.
 

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ahh, the old Rees vs Crist debate. We need a commitment soon or this board is going to go into WW3 mode.

I get why Crist should start, but I also get the argument for Rees. Crist's injuries have came at the worst moments possible though and he simply hasn't been at the winning end of things enough. I hope he goes off and rattles off some big wins at the beginning of next year so we can put this debate behind us, but something tells me that this is a conversation that will continue through the season.
 

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I think the same reason so many people dogged most of the defense before Kelly and Co. took over. Poor player development resulting in the appearance of bad talent.

^this. i'll admit, i was tough on hayseed, but have since changed my view of him and been quite proud of him.
 

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Bumping before someone starts a new thread about Keith Arnold's most recent blog post.
 

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I think the same reason so many people dogged most of the defense before Kelly and Co. took over. Poor player development resulting in the appearance of bad talent.

There's no question that this played a key role. Also that the players were constantly bein f tugged in muliple directions. 3-4, no 4-3. Blitz everydown, blitz only on 3rd downs. Minter, Brown, Brown-Tenuta, Tenuta. Harrison playing LINEBACKER(?) are you kidding me?

Great read. But the one thing that stood out to me is that the season needs to hurry the heck up. I think ive read that same story atleast 6 times already.

Oh, and I am all for Shembo having another year of where 50% of his tackles going for losses!
 

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this was a very well done article.

with the way last year ended, you can't help but be excited about this coming season.

I am always on the positive side of things preseason, and usually try to stay positive throughout the season.

In the end i think we will be looking fondly upon the 2011 Irish, but its going to be a knockdown drag out fight to get there.

I think lots of whiskey and cursing and crying, followed by sheer joy and jubilation much like sc last year is in my future.

can't wait!

I too cried after the USC game. I also told my wife when RoJo dropped the ball, "we finally got lucky." I was happy to BK used the same line.

But honestly, ND had gone on a 2 plue year tour of "How to lose games in the most painful possible way" so, damnit, that was the football Gods saying, "we got ya covered."
 

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I too cried after the USC game. I also told my wife when RoJo dropped the ball, "we finally got lucky." I was happy to BK used the same line.

But honestly, ND had gone on a 2 plue year tour of "How to lose games in the most painful possible way" so, damnit, that was the football Gods saying, "we got ya covered."

I agree with the general sentiment here, but RoJo wouldn't have been wide open had Harrison not slipped in the first place.

USC fans continue to say we got "lucky" there; both teams were unlucky, and the results cancelled each other out. For once.

It's sad that one instance of karmic balance felt like luck to us. Says a lot about the state of the program pre-2010.
 

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ahh, the old Rees vs Crist debate. We need a commitment soon or this board is going to go into WW3 mode.

I get why Crist should start, but I also get the argument for Rees. Crist's injuries have came at the worst moments possible though and he simply hasn't been at the winning end of things enough. I hope he goes off and rattles off some big wins at the beginning of next year so we can put this debate behind us, but something tells me that this is a conversation that will continue through the season.

There's just something about Tommy, isnt there?

Frankly, I dont g.a.s. who starts as long as we are winners at the end of the game. Both are capable.

Dayne obviously has more tools to work with. He can "win" a game all by himself. Look at the MSU tape and show me a better pure passing performence in college football lastyear. Everything from the dinks and dunks to Theo, the incredible TD passes to Floyd to the audible(he called it, not Kelly) TD pass to Rudolph was spot on. But then he goes all timid in the 4th and OT and looks like a first year starter. The runs were pathetic. Im just saying. The 3rd down pass to Rudolph where he predeterminded twhere he was going when he had Floyd so wide open I could have hit, poooor.

Dayne can put the team on his back when Cierre gets his bush stuffed. Look: Cieere avg 6.3YPC in his last 3 games. Again, theres something about Tommy Rees(love his moxie) but come on now..... Garo Yepremian could have passed his way to wins with his back running for 6.29YPD and his defense giving up under 3 yards a rush.

Dayne should be the guy until proven otherwise. But, but, no more of the mind fart stuff. Throw the balll where it should be thrown and how hard/soft it should be thrown.
 

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I agree with the general sentiment here, but RoJo wouldn't have been wide open had Harrison not slipped in the first place.

USC fans continue to say we got "lucky" there; both teams were unlucky, and the results cancelled each other out. For once.

It's sad that one instance of karmic balance felt like luck to us. Says a lot about the state of the program pre-2010.

So true about USC fans. They seem to forget that we turned the ball over 4 times and 3 times inside our 35 and once they got it at the 2.

But yet, one dropped pass makes up for that in their minds.

We need a thorough beat down of some Trojan and Wolverwine arse this year. Solid 9-12 point wins should do the trick. I am sooooo tired of these two fanbases.

And, God know I love them, but I dont want to see the Navy fans doing their stupid wave, hip jerky thing either. Lets all these fanbases suffer in silence for all I care. Hell, they can leave the games early if they'd like to.
 

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Crist was not good on 3rd and long. Crist had a boatload of sacks , drive killing sacks that Rees did not have. Crist was very streaky and inconsistent Rees was more stable in his play. Crist is very fragile and his injuries in both the Michigan game and the tulsa game both forcing the back-up ( montana for michigan and rees for tulsa) to play without the preparation you want from the guy that takes all the practice snaps.

Bottom line--you have to torture the statistics to draw the conclusion that the 4-4 Crist had a better season then the 4- 1 Rees. I simply do not buy that for a second. If Crist starts we will not win the first three games, we will get off to a rocky start just like last season and eventually the team will turn to Rees , but unfortunately we will have our win streak ended by that point. Lots of overestimation of Crist going on among the pundits and lots of underestimation of Rees going on among the fans. I think the staff has a clearer picture of the two QBs , thats a major reason why Crist has not been declared the # 1 QB. Don't be surprised to see the staff, a staff that wants to win these opening games badly, stun the fan base by naming tommy rees he starter by august 16th.

I'm fairly certain these stats weren't tortured. Do you think the entire organization of football outsiders was created for the purpose of making Dayne Crist seem like a better option than Tommy Rees? Doubtful. Despite what we believe, the observations we make are often anecdotal and misleading. Not to pick on you, but the casual sort of observation like, "Crist was no good on 3 and long." is exactly what has been plaguing football for to long. Baseball has come a very long way in terms of statistical analysis. Of course you still get the proponents of the sacrifice bunt and managers that will put a guy with a .320 OBP at lead off just because he's fast. But there is a growing population of people who are understanding the game at new levels. The football outsiders group is at the forefront of this change in football. I for one welcome it.
 

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Your clearly a Crist apologist so i will be brief in this last post. Dayne is simply a disappointment for a 5 star QB. If you like you can blame the scheme. you can blame the defense, you can blame the coach, you can blame it on his first year starting , you can blame it a lack of running attack. It seems some Dayne Crist supporters have lost all objective standards and see all his glaring weaknesses as the fault of some EXTERNAL FORCE.

Yes i am a golson supporter, i see everett as the future , but for this year i expect rees to start because i expect the coaches to want the same result as i do--WINS!

Dayne simply did NOTHING last year to inspire any confidence, all he seems to have inspired is excuses about how everyone and everthing from the defense to the coaches philosophy underpinned the very mediocre play and results of Dayne Crist.

I supported Dayne last season and expected big things, i was very disappointed by his play and lost complete confidence that we can win consistently with Dayne running the show. He got sacked to often, his delievry was slow and laborious, his demeanor was listless devoid of fire, his consistency was lacking, his running was an accident waiting to happen, his touch was non-existent. By that same standard i see winning an easy formula under Tommy Rees---4 straight now soon to be more. I simply want to WIN--- Dayne got his chance and IMO did not show anywhere near the skills i had hoped for. Rees exceeded my expectations by leaps and bounds. Its not personal its pragmatic--Rees will give us the best chance to win. Unfortunately if dayne does get the start by mid-season it will be Rees in any case either becasue of injury or sub par play by Crist---Best to simply start the man on the winning streak and at least see how far he can take us.

Clearly you're a clown so I'll keep this brief. Lets review a few point:

1) The offense averaged more points under Crist.
2) The running game was better while Rees was quarterback.
3) The defense was vastly better while Rees was quarterback.

Unless you are saying that somehow Rees makes the running game or defense better when he's starting, I just don't see how you can keep bellowing "Scoreboard!" and think that has anything to do with Rees.
 
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If you think Rees is the best option at quarterback, you didn't watch the games. ND won because of the defense in the last 4 games of the season. Rees is a career backup who benefited from having a defense that gave up 10 points per game and Robert Hughes, Cierre Wood, Michael Floyd, and Tyler Eifert playing ridiculously well. Rees was terrible against USC. 4.7 yards per attempt is horrible and he gave USC fantastic field position with his terrible turnovers. He almost gave them the game. He's just not very good and he doesn't fit Kelly's system either. Crist was mobile (still need to see about his fragile knees), has a strong arm, and can make big plays. I trust Crist much more than I trust Rees. Rees should be #3 on the depth chart and should only be used if both Crist and Hendrix get injured.
 

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The APPG stat basically just normalizes offensive output by taking the quality of the opposing defenses into account.

I wonder what kind of a statistical advantage Crist would have over Rees if our rushing and defense could be controlled for as well. Put another way, if Crist had benefited from our late season rushing and defense, how much more productive would his offense had been?

Perhaps 6 or 7 APPG, instead of 3.6?
 

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Its quite incredible how reluctant some are to face a critique of dayne crist---yet they are oh so comfortable burying the career of tommy rees with pegoratives and somehow don't see that they are doing exactly what they seem so upset about.

All the loses by DAYNE CRIST --a 4-4 season heading into oblivion and utter failure was everybody's fault but dayne's---he was great but the rest of the team sucked---

And when tommy rees came in and saved our season with consitent play , his 12 TDs, his effect on the play on the entire team---well that was to EVERYBODY's credit but tommy rees.

Its so blatantly illogical that Dayne was losing because of the coach, the rushing, the defense, and rees only was winning becuse of the rushing, the defense, and the coach.

I expect Rees to start because the coach will not risk another 2010 start

But if Crist starts and plays less then stellar i guarantee all his "defenders" will be the first to call for his head.

I watched every play of every game, if we start dayne we will lose at least one of the first three, if we start rees we will continue where we left off, winning game after game.

I like to win, i expect the coaches will feel the same way!

How about an honest answer to this question . What has dayne crist accomplished in his 3 years at ND that inspires such confidence that many can't even admit how even the stats were between rees & crist

I have listed ALL the MANY accomplishments by Tommy Rees in just 4 games as a true frosh

ND records in compleition % as a frosh--ND records in TD passes for a frosh--several ND records for freshman QBs even though both brady quinn & Clausen played as frosh.

Led the Irish to their first win over a ranked team since 2006---Led the irish to their first win over USC in over a decade--Led the irish to only their second bowl win in 15 years and was the first frreshman ever to win a bowl game.

My my, all that accomcplished as a freshman---he led us to the finish that saved our recruiting class , and he gets TRASHED !

Please let me know ONE SINGLE accomplishment of any note at all that i can put under Dayne Crists name--There must be a bunch for him to engender all this confidence ----or is his last big accomplishment getting a 5 star ranking is HS 4 years ago--just asking.
 
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This is infuriating!!!! Should the pitcher with the most wins automatically win the Cy young? What about the defense that played behind him? What about the offense that scored runs for him? Yes? Yes? Aaaaaaaaargh!
 

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If the ERA of the two pitchers is similar 3.12---QB rating TD passes Completion %

One guy is 16 -2 the other is 8-9---and on top of that the 16-2 pitcher faced the tougher competition----

neither one wins the cy young--but we keep the 16-2 guy if we have to trade someone --no doubt about it!

Baseball does not have any answers--

Tell me one thing Dayne has accomplished in his career that engenders the kind of confidence so many posters voice!---just one thing not the seven things Rees accomplished in only 4 games!

thank you
 

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I respectfully decline to further participate in this conversation as it poses grave danger to my health and the health of those around me.
 

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Thats the answer i expect when you have no answer to what dayne has accomplished.

You and others may not like the fact that i strongly support rees over dayne---thats fine--but i have made my case as to why---I like the way the team played under REES , i felt like we were going to win and damn we did win---rees played better the Brady quinn or jimmy clausen as a true freshman--his stats were equal to dayne last year---he set records for performance as a freshman--he led us to three COUNT EM three of the Biggest wins in the last 5 years.

Why anyone thinks its a weak or bazarr position to think rees would be better for the team seems to defy logic IMO.

So i simply ask name one single thing that Dayne has accomplished in his career that engenders the optimism and confidence so many put on him. That is not a strange , or nasty question in any way---it just doesnt have a good answer.

On top of everything dayne may be just too fragile for division one making the whole conversation academic. Nonetheless i would like to what Dayne has done that makes us dismiss the guy that did so much and elevate that guy that did so little!
 

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Its quite incredible how reluctant some are to face a critique of dayne crist---yet they are oh so comfortable burying the career of tommy rees with pegoratives and somehow don't see that they are doing exactly what they seem so upset about.

All the loses by DAYNE CRIST --a 4-4 season heading into oblivion and utter failure was everybody's fault but dayne's---he was great but the rest of the team sucked---

And when tommy rees came in and saved our season with consitent play , his 12 TDs, his effect on the play on the entire team---well that was to EVERYBODY's credit but tommy rees.

Its so blatantly illogical that Dayne was losing because of the coach, the rushing, the defense, and rees only was winning becuse of the rushing, the defense, and the coach.

I expect Rees to start because the coach will not risk another 2010 start

But if Crist starts and plays less then stellar i guarantee all his "defenders" will be the first to call for his head.

I watched every play of every game, if we start dayne we will lose at least one of the first three, if we start rees we will continue where we left off, winning game after game.

I like to win, i expect the coaches will feel the same way!

How about an honest answer to this question . What has dayne crist accomplished in his 3 years at ND that inspires such confidence that many can't even admit how even the stats were between rees & crist

I have listed ALL the MANY accomplishments by Tommy Rees in just 4 games as a true frosh

ND records in compleition % as a frosh--ND records in TD passes for a frosh--several ND records for freshman QBs even though both brady quinn & Clausen played as frosh.

Led the Irish to their first win over a ranked team since 2006---Led the irish to their first win over USC in over a decade--Led the irish to only their second bowl win in 15 years and was the first frreshman ever to win a bowl game.

My my, all that accomcplished as a freshman---he led us to the finish that saved our recruiting class , and he gets TRASHED !

Please let me know ONE SINGLE accomplishment of any note at all that i can put under Dayne Crists name--There must be a bunch for him to engender all this confidence ----or is his last big accomplishment getting a 5 star ranking is HS 4 years ago--just asking.

Crist was behind Clausen for two of those years. He was in no position to make any sort of contribution when Clausen was tearing it up in front of him. From an experience standpoint and in terms of learning the playbook, Crist and Rees were essentially on even footing last year, so please stop acting like Crist has been a bum since he has been on campus. From a win standpoint, Crist certainly has not accomplished much. No matter how anyone spins it, it is just obvious he is going to start. Just watching the two play, Crist looks much more skilled. He shows so much more potential than Rees ever did, and adds the dimension of the QB read play which is pretty huge in the spread obviously. The coaches have gone as far as to say that ND would have finished 4-0 with Crist anyway. As I already mentioned before, the coaches also said that Rees almost fell out of the QB competition altogether if not for a couple of strong days before the Spring Game.

I'm not going to go crazy over Rees going 4-0 (while throwing more interceptions than Crist even though he had 130 less attempts) against Army, two deflated teams in Miami and Utah, and a USC team that had the game given to them by Rees and still couldn't win. All while our D gave up less than 10 points a game.

Our team is not good enough to start Rees and go to the BCS. We are not Bama where we can throw in a game-manager. If Rees turns out to be anything beyond a Matt Lovecchio 2.0 I'll be shocked.
 

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Thats at least fair--at least as far as crist goes---he has not accomplished much of anything but he looks to have potential to be better the rees, although interceptions for a true frosh is less telling then TD passes and Tommy had no problem throwing touchdowns. If Rees starts i would expect 30 TDs 3000 Yards maybe 12 picks and alot of wins. With crist i think its unlikely he will finish the year because of his injury propensity.---

Also to be fair , the coaches never said rees was all but out of it.

The exact qoute was by Kelly---" Just when you start thinking about the possibility of him getting beat out he has a day like this "---that was nowhere near the paraphrased version---" start thinking about the POSSIBILITY of him getting beaten out"---there is not much there

Kelly also said he believed Rees looked the best of all the QBs in the spring game despite the stats--he felt the recievers were bad for rees , he gave him the nod for best in show!

Charly Molnar--who was the only coach to say we would have won the 4 with crist--also was praising rees spring improvment saying he was " really AIRING it out this spring"

The Coaches have not said anything that smacks of it being Crists job---in fact he was the most recent critisized by saying " he needs to learn how to hit those 8-9 passes a game, when the protection is right , the reciever is open, " --the coaches understand very well Dayne can be inconsistent and streaky and that we just can't afford to miss those kind of throws .

If you listen to the prognostcators and pundits then YES--DAYNE WON THE JOB WHEN HE CAME TO PRACTICE on day 1----if you listen to the coaches, this is FAR from decided. Rees is a competitor and will keep the pressure on Crist all fall.

We certainly may change the winning formula we had last year and start dayne, but along with that comes some big risk---the first game dayne plays poorly in , and god forbid its michigan, we will have a full fledged QB controversy on our hands.

Much closer and more difficult call then many seem to realize.
 
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Here's my input...

Dayne Crist

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- Powerful arm, can make all the throws.
- Offense has much more explosive potential and the play-calling is more diverse.

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- Extremely inconsistent accuracy. Has brief periods of excellent accuracy, but far more frequent periods of terrible accuracy.

2010 High - 369 yard, 4 TD performance against Michigan State
2010 Low - Abysmal performance vs. Navy


Tommy Rees

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- Much more accurate than Dayne Crist.
- Calm in pressure situations. Led game-winning drive vs. USC and made several clutch throws in the 4th quarter to keep Miami off the field in the Sun Bowl.

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- Interception machine.
- Weak arm, limits the offense.
- Thinks Michael Floyd is the only target on every pass play.

2010 High - 201 yard, 2 TD performance vs. Miami
2010 Low - 3 interceptions vs. USC
 

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The Coaches have not said anything that smacks of it being Crists job---in fact he was the most recent critisized by saying " he needs to learn how to hit those 8-9 passes a game, when the protection is right , the reciever is open, " --the coaches understand very well Dayne can be inconsistent and streaky and that we just can't afford to miss those kind of throws

This quote? Molnar pretty much says Crist has the job as of now.

"Handling those seven to eight throws a game when the protection's right, the receiver's open, you've got the right scheme, and all you have to do is execute -- that would be the key for Dayne to solidify his hold on the job," Molnar says.
 

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My goodness. This arguing is just...wow.

Face it aloha. At this point in time, Rees doesn't show the physical ability to be a BCS contending quarterback.

And nobody has said that Dayne played great. He sure as heck didn't. He out played Rees though. Recall how stifled the offense was when Crist left during the UM game? And there's another thing. You pretty much attack Dayne in some of your posts. Acting as if his injuries are his fault or fake or something. Now that's ludicrous.

To be honest, after the spring game my favorite QB is Golson. He shows the most physical ability to lead this team to big things. He is the best runner and has the most zip on the ball. Seriously, Golson throws a heater of a ball. I love it. Once he gets comfortable in the offense there is no limit to his abilities.
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