Tressel Suspended 2 Games in 2011

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Bull****. He should be suspended for 2 Big Ten games minimum.
 

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Hope the NCAA drops the hammer on OSU. They have been getting away with players recieving money from boosters and other violations relatively unscathed for way too long.

This is undeniable pattern of violating NCAA regs:
While Tressel was coach at Youngstown State, of Division I's Football Championship Subdivision, quarterback Ray Isaac was accused of accepting improper benefits including cars from boosters. Years later, the university admitted to the infractions and faced minor penalties.

The player who led Ohio State to its first national championship in 34 years, tailback Maurice Clarett, also involved Tressel in some NCAA problems. After the Buckeyes beat Miami in the BCS National Championship Game following the 2002 season, Clarett was suspended for receiving improper benefits from Buckeyes boosters.

Clarett, who never played another collegiate game, also accused the university of academic fraud in its dealings with athletes' academics.

Troy Smith, Tressel's quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy in 2006, was suspended for the Alamo Bowl at the end of the 2004 season and for the first two games of the 2005 season for taking money from a booster.

In May of 2009, The Columbus Dispatch reported that since 2000, Ohio State had reported to the NCAA more than 375 violations -- the most of any of the 69 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that provided documents to the newspaper through public-records requests. Most of the infractions were minor and resulted in little or no punishment.
 
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2 games...that's it! Against Marshall and Miami of Ohio. Wow. Why not at least the same 5 games as the players.
I hope the NCAA finally steps in.
 

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Bull****. He should be suspended for 2 Big Ten games minimum.

Actually for an entire season. Isn't that what the NCAA did to Dez Bryant, OKSt, and to Weslye Saunders, South Carolina, for lying to the NCAA?

Or are we once again redefining "is" as Tressel lied to OSU administrator who then "unknowingly" filed a fraudulent violation report with the NCAA.
 

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I won't be happy unless they get the USC treatment.

OSU shouldn't be vacating games they should be outright forfeits. USC can argue they didn't know at the time their players were ineligibile, Tressel knew his would have been and buried it to keep them eligibile.

They're BCS Sugar Bowl money should also be forfeited as they would not have been there without those players.
 

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Bull****. He should be suspended for 2 Big Ten games minimum.

i agree...if the 'punishment' is only going to be 2 games, it should be 2 conference games, otherwise this is a waste of everyone time; and given the track record of OSU, this will do NOTHING to stop all of the improper 'minor' offenses that occur.
 

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Pretty sure that the NCAA will expand on these these early penalties after a lengthy investigation. I think thats why they didnt suspend him 4 or 5 games. OSU "takes ownership" and supends him 2 games and levies a fine so it seems like they are "sorry" or "responsible" so that that NCAA may have a bit of mercy on them.

Why do any more when you are going to get tapped on the chin and forehead by the NCAA's schlong regardless of how you penalize yourself?
 
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It's the first two games of the season: Akron and Toledo, who both went a combined 9-16 last year...
 

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OSU shouldn't be vacating games they should be outright forfeits. USC can argue they didn't know at the time their players were ineligibile, Tressel knew his would have been and buried it to keep them eligibile.

They're BCS Sugar Bowl money should also be forfeited as they would not have been there without those players.

I agree with you completely. Tressel knew exactly what he was doing, and this is not the first time (in fact there have been so many occasions it is quite difficult to count) that he has allowed this type of violation to occur. This type the NCAA can really drop the hammer, and it is hard to see how they won't, as Tressel straight up lied to them.
 

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The question is, with 4 players AND the coach out those first 2 games, could the Zips sneak one in Columbus?
 

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The question is, with 4 players AND the coach out those first 2 games, could the Zips sneak one in Columbus?

5 players.

Another consequence of this announcement is the fact that it is now impossible to see how the NCAA would reduce the 5 game suspension for the athletes, which means their games against MSU and Miami just got a whole lot tougher.
 

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The question is, with 4 players AND the coach out those first 2 games, could the Zips sneak one in Columbus?

Not even if the entire Buckeye team was suspended for the 1st half. Only 2-10 Buffalo prevented the Zips from a perfect 0-12 season last Fall.
 

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I sure hope the NCAA man's up and hits them a bit harder than that.
 

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I will only be happy if they get slapped like USC. How many times do you let them break the rules before you give them a real punishment?
 

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when was the last time ohio state broke any severe rules?


Who knows? OSU's Legal Beavers have only stumbled upon a handfull of Tressel's e-mails while reviewing "another legal matter". Who knows what they may find if they were actually looking for something.

For some background see RB Maurice Clarett, QB Troy Smith, Basketball Coach Jim O'Brien come to mind.
 

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Who knows? OSU's Legal Beavers have only stumbled upon a handfull of Tressel's e-mails while reviewing "another legal matter". Who knows what they may find if they were actually looking for something.

For some background see RB Maurice Clarett, QB Troy Smith, Basketball Coach Jim O'Brien come to mind.

Also, AJ Hawk has the same creature growing out of his neck that Mark McGwire and Clay Matthews have... just saying
 
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Just listened to an interview with a reporter from Columbus and he said that he doesn't expect any other punishment and the 2 game suspension/$250,000 fine was enough. This guy may hear some surprising news.

What do people expect ultimately as the punishment? 5 games?
 

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Also, $250,000 fine

I'm sure he'll get by, given his $3.5 million salary...

Did you read Mark Schlabach's column about this on ESPN.com?

Here's how it ends...

"Tressel committed two of college athletics' cardinal sins: covering up a scandal and then misleading investigators.

Ohio State could have easily terminated Tressel under the terms of his contract.

Instead, OSU's message was clear: Keep beating Michigan and winning Big Ten championships, and we've got your back.

For the record, Michigan's football team hasn't beaten Ohio State in 2,663 days.

But the Wolverines won on Tuesday.

At least they had fired their cheating coach."
 

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Stinging column by Schlabach.

"The reputation of a thousand years may be determined by the conduct of one hour."

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel included that Japanese proverb on Page 193 of his book, "The Winners Manual For The Game of Life."

Eight pages later, there's this nugget from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow: "It takes less time to do the right thing than to explain why you did it wrong
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In 10 years as the Buckeyes' coach, Tressel has often showed us his teams can't win big games.

On Tuesday night, Tressel showed us he can't win the big news conferences, either
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Bazinga!

On Tuesday night, we learned Tressel isn't any different from a lot of coaches in college football. He's apparently more concerned about winning games and championships than following rules and doing things the right way.

In fact, Tressel might be even worse than other coaches who are corrupting college athletics. He won't admit he's wrong even after he has been caught.

So much for leading by example.

As bad as Tressel looks in college football's latest scandal, Ohio State looks even worse. The school that has long prided itself on academic and athletic excellence looks no different than the football factories it has long looked down its nose at.

The NCAA might impose further sanctions against Tressel and Ohio State, but it's clear the school won't hold Tressel accountable for his actions.

Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee said he never considered firing Tressel.

"No, are you kidding me?" Gee said. "Let me be very clear. I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me."

Now look at the photo in the Schlabach article, the one with Tressel at the podium, smith to the right, and Gee to the left. Gee is the one with the hand over his mouth and the "O my god!" look on his face. I'd love to hear a body language expert's commentary on that photo.


Tressel already hoodwinked the NCAA into allowing Pryor and the other suspended players to participate in the the Allstate Sugar Bowl, instead of starting their five-game suspensions immediately. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany even went to bat for the suspended OSU five.

Without them, the Buckeyes probably didn't stand a chance against Arkansas. With them, the Buckeyes won a 31-26 thriller.

After nine straight losses, the Buckeyes finally beat an SEC school. Apparently, Tressel even learned to cheat as well as they do.

In a number of these "extra benefits" situations ( Alabama textbook scandal) the NCAA has ruled that the school didn't get an advantage on the field. OSU clearly did by playing ineligible players against Arkansas. Without those players who should have been suspended during the season, OSU would not have been in a BCS Game much less have won.


"It was obviously tremendously concerning," Tressel said. "Quite honestly, I was scared."

Scared to do the right thing and report his players. Scared he might lose to Michigan without his ineligible players. Scared he might not get his bonus for a BCS Bowl. Scared the NCAA would get wind of his coverup.


Instead, OSU's message was clear: Keep beating Michigan and winning Big Ten championships, and we've got your back.

For the record, Michigan's football team hasn't beaten Ohio State in 2,663 days.

But the Wolverines won on Tuesday.

At least they had fired their cheating coach
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Why should OSU fire Tressel? Auburn didn't fire head coach Pat Dye when he got caught in the Ramsey scandal. He resigned and got a lifetime job as Special Assistant to the President of the University. Alabama didn't fire Gene Stallings over the Langham scandal, he retired with his vacated victories and a statue.
 

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Should be gone for the whole season. And he just might be once the NCAA hands down their punishment.

I'd have to think that given the unpopularity of letting Pryor and the rest of the hooligans play in the sugar bowl, they may make an example outta old Tressel and save face for that blunder.

I say he's gone AT LEAST 5 games.
 

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Nothing from the NCAA is going to come down untill after the Bruce Pearl fiasco is settled. That will be a starting point for us to see what the NCAA will impose on Tressell
 
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