What is your opinion of LeBron?

[Rocket89]

It's just a big disappointment really.

It sucks how he left Cleveland, but I don't think LeBron is a bad guy at all. He might have mixed some things up during this process but he was one of the more likable athletes in the world up until last summer.

To act like he was this arrogant prick the whole time and the Decision just revealed it to the world...I think that's off-base. How he left was a huge **** move, but it was all the more surprising because no one saw it coming like that.

It's perfectly understandable why Clevelanders hate him, but I genuinely think LeBron is a good guy. Some may never be able to separate the Decision from who LeBron really is as a person, but life goes on and it's not going to solely define him.

Like I said, for me it was just a huge disappointment. I'd say he was my favorite NBA player, and now it's just meh.

It was a stupid move because people like me who watched basketball more because of LeBron really don't care as much. He could win two or three titles in Miami, but so what? It doesn't mean as much anymore. And that's sad. Not just for Clevelanders because he left, but for the whole sport.

 

[Sweetness34]

It's just a big disappointment really.

It sucks how he left Cleveland, but I don't think LeBron is a bad guy at all. He might have mixed some things up during this process but he was one of the more likable athletes in the world up until last summer.

To act like he was this arrogant prick the whole time and the Decision just revealed it to the world...I think that's off-base. How he left was a huge **** move, but it was all the more surprising because no one saw it coming like that.

It's perfectly understandable why Clevelanders hate him, but I genuinely think LeBron is a good guy. Some may never be able to separate the Decision from who LeBron really is as a person, but life goes on and it's not going to solely define him.

Like I said, for me it was just a huge disappointment. I'd say he was my favorite NBA player, and now it's just meh.

It was a stupid move because people like me who watched basketball more because of LeBron really don't care as much. He could win two or three titles in Miami, but so what? It doesn't mean as much anymore. And that's sad. Not just for Clevelanders because he left, but for the whole sport.

I agree that winning a ring in Miami will not be the same as winning it in Cleveland. Winning a ring in general is way better than staying in Cleveland and not winning anything at all but being a nice guy who stayed to lose at the end every year. People want to say Michael, Magic, Larry and Kobe wouldn't do that. They never had to do that. Their respective teams put consistent all-stars in place on the team. No great free agents wanted to come to Cleveland. They drafted poorly and never developed any help so what was he supposed to do? Yes leave with more grace, I get that and I agree with that. He is and will continue to be a great guy who made a good decision in a bad way.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I agree that winning a ring in Miami will not be the same as winning it in Cleveland. Winning a ring in general is way better than staying in Cleveland and not winning anything at all but being a nice guy who stayed to lose at the end every year. People want to say Michael, Magic, Larry and Kobe wouldn't do that. They never had to do that. Their respective teams put consistent all-stars in place on the team. No great free agents wanted to come to Cleveland. They drafted poorly and never developed any help so what was he supposed to do? Yes leave with more grace, I get that and I agree with that. He is and will continue to be a great guy who made a good decision in a bad way.

See, the thing is, how do you know he's a 'great guy'? What makes you say that? Because he's a great player? Because he dances on the court? Because he's never been arrested?

Truth is, there is more pointing to him NOT being a great guy than vice-versa.

*The way he did Cleveland dirty on national TV was a douche move.

* The way he continued and continues to talk sh!t about Cleveland on Twitter shows that he's not a great guy.

* The way he COMPLETELY quit on the team in the playoffs last year (and don't even try to argue that...I watched that entire series and have read numerous articles on that entire fiasco; something happened between games 4 and 5 between he and his teammates and he was just quit on them for whatever reason) shows that he isn't a great guy.

* There was an article written by an SI writer in which Lebron gave him access to him and his posse for a bit of time in Vegas. LeBron came off as an arrgoant, selfish, entitled jerk. The article painted him in such a bad light it was pulled from the site within hours.

Now, I will say that most professional athletes, sadly, are entitled a-holes. It's tough to be grounded when you can have anything you want any time you want. In college, at a job I used to have lunch with a former soap opera star who admitted once he became famous he wouldn't want to wait in line at restaraunts and demand better tables, etc. And this was a really good guy, but the fame got to his head.

But just saying, LeBron took it overboard with LeDecision and the subsequent WWE celebration at the Heat Arena, dancing, preening, promising 7 rings and all that crap. He brought this on himself, and all his fans have to live with it now...

 

[Rhode Irish]

I think a lot of this conversation is missing the point.

Lebron isn't a douche bag for any single thing he did. The way he left Cleveland, the way he conducts himself while out in Vegas and then has his PR people get the story pulled, the blaming the backlash on racism, and the countless other similar instances are not WHY he is a douche bag. They are just examples. They are merely symptoms of a larger disease. Maybe The Decision was the moment when most people began to realize what the guy was about, but for me it just served as the latest, greatest example of what I had been saying about him since his rookie year.

It was his lavish, overdone Narcissistic DoucheBag Coming Out Party.

Lebron is a terrific athlete. He was very fortunate to have won the gene pool lottery. But, he is not much of a human being. Its not that he is a villain, or a truly bad person. Villains at least have some substance. Lebron totally lacks substance on every level. He doesn't get it. The fact that he thinks he gets it - that he thinks of himself as possessing great savvy and wisdom (which is clearly discernible when watching and listening to him) - only serves to make him even less likable.

Lebron exists for the sole purpose of being famous. Selling gear, being on TV. Being relevant. The Decision was simply an ego stroke - perfectly encapsulating everything he is about: self important, tone deaf and oblivious. He has no actual personality, or character. Everything he does, everything he says, everywhere he goes is a carefully calculated to maximize visibility and perpetuate an image. I don't have to think an athlete is feeding hungry children for me to respect him; as long as they are being genuine and being themselves, I can respect a villain. But Lebron isn't that. He's just a byproduct of overlapping marketing strategies. And the worst part is, he is so lacking for self awareness that he doesn't even realize how completely fake and lacking in substance and originality he really is.

 

[Sweetness34]

See, the thing is, how do you know he's a 'great guy'? What makes you say that? Because he's a great player? Because he dances on the court? Because he's never been arrested?

Truth is, there is more pointing to him NOT being a great guy than vice-versa.

*The way he did Cleveland dirty on national TV was a douche move.

* The way he continued and continues to talk sh!t about Cleveland on Twitter shows that he's not a great guy.

* The way he COMPLETELY quit on the team in the playoffs last year (and don't even try to argue that...I watched that entire series and have read numerous articles on that entire fiasco; something happened between games 4 and 5 between he and his teammates and he was just quit on them for whatever reason) shows that he isn't a great guy.

* There was an article written by an SI writer in which Lebron gave him access to him and his posse for a bit of time in Vegas. LeBron came off as an arrgoant, selfish, entitled jerk. The article painted him in such a bad light it was pulled from the site within hours.

Now, I will say that most professional athletes, sadly, are entitled a-holes. It's tough to be grounded when you can have anything you want any time you want. In college, at a job I used to have lunch with a former soap opera star who admitted once he became famous he wouldn't want to wait in line at restaraunts and demand better tables, etc. And this was a really good guy, but the fame got to his head.

But just saying, LeBron took it overboard with LeDecision and the subsequent WWE celebration at the Heat Arena, dancing, preening, promising 7 rings and all that crap. He brought this on himself, and all his fans have to live with it now...

Well I know that he is not a bad guy because I have personally known him since he was in the 9th grade. I have seen mostly everything this young man has gone through up close. It would be hard pressed to find a kid who came from nothing and was on SI at a young age to not feel a little entitled. Yes, he does have his arrogant moments but the thing is that ALL of the GREAT basketball players have had those moments at some point. To rebut your points

1. The way he left Cleveland was a SMART move but he could have done it a different way.

2. He does not talk crap about Cleveland, all he does is continue to say that Akron(my hometown as well) is where he is from. He was upset by the bashing and jersey burning that occurred. He gave Cleveland the City the best 7 years the could possible have in basketball. He does not owe Cleveland anything.

3. The quitting in games 4 and 5 is ridiculous because his teammates quit on him in the series. He had 22pts 8 assists 9 rebs in the game. He shot 7-18. Not to mention while locking down Paul Pierce who had 9 pts.Where was his help? In game 5 he was terrible shooting 3-14 with 15pts 6assist 7rebs. Here is my thing on this, the stuff that happened would be hard to get past no matter who you are. He is human, not a robot. I don't think he gave his all but he did not quit. Have we forgotten that Kobe truly quit on his team in 2006. They were up 3-1 in the series and in a GAME 7 he shot 16 shots and only 3 in the second half while scoring 1 point in the second half. And Kobe was 8-16 shooting 50% having a great game. That's quitting!

4. Articles written all have a slant to them. They cater to a specific demographic, in this case it is the Lebron haters only to fuel their hatred. There are way way more good articles about Lebron than bad so if you choose to believe that one than that's your "Decision."

When Cleveland hit the lottery, I wish they hadn't because I knew that it would end badly. So now he chooses to take less money and be a TEAM player to win rings and now he is a bad guy. Has he been arrested or charged for any wrong doings? No, but he is a bad guy. Jaded Cleveland fans need to look at the City of Cleveland as the reason why he left. They couldn't get any GREAT free-agents to go their and believe me, Lebron tried before he left.

 

[Kingbish01]

Here is my two cents: The way he did it was very wrong. I hate players that are trying to stack teams, so I now HATE the Heat. Cleveland blows, hometown or not who would ever want to live or play there.

 

[Sweetness34]

I think a lot of this conversation is missing the point.

Lebron isn't a douche bag for any single thing he did. The way he left Cleveland, the way he conducts himself while out in Vegas and then has his PR people get the story pulled, the blaming the backlash on racism, and the countless other similar instances are not WHY he is a douche bag. They are just examples. They are merely symptoms of a larger disease. Maybe The Decision was the moment when most people began to realize what the guy was about, but for me it just served as the latest, greatest example of what I had been saying about him since his rookie year.

It was his lavish, overdone Narcissistic DoucheBag Coming Out Party.

Lebron is a terrific athlete. He was very fortunate to have won the gene pool lottery. But, he is not much of a human being. Its not that he is a villain, or a truly bad person. Villains at least have some substance. Lebron totally lacks substance on every level. He doesn't get it. The fact that he thinks he gets it - that he thinks of himself as possessing great savvy and wisdom (which is clearly discernible when watching and listening to him) - only serves to make him even less likable.

Lebron exists for the sole purpose of being famous. Selling gear, being on TV. Being relevant. The Decision was simply an ego stroke - perfectly encapsulating everything he is about: self important, tone deaf and oblivious. He has no actual personality, or character. Everything he does, everything he says, everywhere he goes is a carefully calculated to maximize visibility and perpetuate an image. I don't have to think an athlete is feeding hungry children for me to respect him; as long as they are being genuine and being themselves, I can respect a villain. But Lebron isn't that. He's just a concoction of overlapping marketing strategies. And the worst part is, he is so lacking for self awareness that he doesn't even realize how completely fake and lacking in substance and originality he really is.

What's funny is that everything you say is from a bystanders point of view. You don't know him, it's what you think. Your thoughts aren't fact. Here are some facts, he is savvy and he does possess wisdom in the basketball world. This past summer HE started a trend. When he told other guys to sign shorter deals years back was for the sole purpose of signing a big deal before the CBA was going to be up. His choice and his idea. The Decision was wrong I agree. Truthfully I wish he would have went to Chicago but he made a truly basketball decision, not marketing or money but BASKETBALL. Lebron does way more than feed hungry children, look it up he is a charitable person and doesn't go all out to show everyone. You might not like how he left Cleveland but Cleveland needed him more than he needed Cleveland. By the way, he is not fake.

 

[Ben E.]

clashmore, didnt you used to be a tiger and piston fan??? perrysburg might as well be michigan, hell im suprised you are an irish fan instead of U of M.

its crazy out in that area, you go to their generic version of walmart and there is more wolverine than buckeye apparell.

as far as lebron hating cleveland because as a kid the cleveland thugs looked down on the akron thugs??? are you kidding, you are a multi million dollar business and you are still worried about old neighborhood beefs? maybe its because you walked around with yankee gear on all the time??? you can take the boy out of the hood but....

 

[Rhode Irish]

You might not like how he left Cleveland but Cleveland needed him more than he needed Cleveland. By the way, he is not fake.

I'm not from Cleveland and I don't really care about Cleveland. I'm glad The Decision happened because it proved the point I had been making for years. The guy is an ignorant human being. I'm not worried about convincing everyone. Anybody that still holds the guy's jock up to their nose after last summer has no shot of ever getting it.

As far as the rest of your points, in what way do they contradict my point that every single thing the guy does is driven by an ultimately hollow marketing agenda? Wow, he started a trend. A trend that will eventually ruin basketball in all but a handful of cities. Congrats.

And as far as that trend, I equate Lebron going to play with his friends in Miami with someone stealing the answers to an IQ test in order to get a high score. He may end up with a ring, just like the guy who steals the answers may end up in MENSA. But it doesn't really mean anything, because the ring - like the high IQ score - was gotten without the underlying accomplishment that it was meant to signify. The cheater's IQ score is devalued because he couldn't get it on his own. Same thing for the ring Lebron will get eventually.

 

[Ben E.]

Cleveland blows, hometown or not who would ever want to live or play there.

its funny how people who have probably never been to a place place make comments like this^. for instance, i have never been to atlanta, but i have this vision of old white neighborhoods being over run by urban sprawl turning into...well a warmer version of cleveland. lol!

 

[Sweetness34]

I'm not from Cleveland and I don't really care about Cleveland. I'm glad The Decision happened because it proved the point I had been making for years. The guy is an ignorant human being. I'm not worried about convincing everyone. Anybody that still holds the guy's jock up to their nose after last summer has no shot of ever getting it.

As far as the rest of your points, in what way do they contradict my point that every single thing the guy does is driven by an ultimately hollow marketing agenda? Wow, he started a trend. A trend that will eventually ruin basketball in all but a handful of cities. Congrats.

And as far as that trend, I equate Lebron going to play with his friends in Miami with someone stealing the answers to an IQ test in order to get a high score. He may end up with a ring, just like the guy who steals the answers may end up in MENSA. But it doesn't really mean anything, because the ring - like the high IQ score - was gotten without the underlying accomplishment that it was meant to signify. The cheater's IQ score is devalued because he couldn't get it on his own. Same thing for the ring Lebron will get eventually.

The underlying accomplishment like hard work(he does that) going through adversity(he has done that.) What underlying accomplishments are you referring to?
If it were for marketing he would have went to L.A., NY or Chicago. Miami doesn't care about basketball, look at the crowd during the Heat games. You are way off base. For him to be ignorant means he is uneducated and well that's not the case. He has done pretty well for himself on and off the court. I think people just don't like for one man to have that power. It's ok.

 

[clashmore_mike]

clashmore, didnt you used to be a tiger and piston fan??? perrysburg might as well be michigan, hell im suprised you are an irish fan instead of U of M.

its crazy out in that area, you go to their generic version of walmart and there is more wolverine than buckeye apparell.

as far as lebron hating cleveland because as a kid the cleveland thugs looked down on the akron thugs??? are you kidding, you are a multi million dollar business and you are still worried about old neighborhood beefs? maybe its because you walked around with yankee gear on all the time??? you can take the boy out of the hood but....

I was a casual Tiger fan only because its 45 minutes to Detroit so they were the closest MLB team. I went to quite a few games growing up. Their AAA team is in Toledo too so I saw as bunch of those games. I'm an Atlanta Braves fan though and have been as long as I can remember them playing on TBS (before they went on their run of division titles).

Perrysburg and the Toledo area in general is pretty well split on OSU/Michigan mostly because its less than an hour from Ann Arbor. I don't understand your comment about me being an ND fan. My dad and his family are all huge ND fans, grew up around it and have always loved ND. I went to Ohio State and that only reinforced my ND fandom.

What is the generic Walmart?

I don't think he said he hates Cleveland now. He said while growing up the kids from Akron were looked at as inferior as basketball players because they weren't from Cleveland. The documentary was on LeBron's basketball life growing up, not present day.

 

[Sweetness34]

I don't think he said he hates Cleveland now. He said while growing up the kids from Akron were looked at as inferior as basketball players because they weren't from Cleveland. The documentary was on LeBron's basketball life growing up, not present day.

Exactly. He never said he hated Cleveland. Clevelanders are so sensitive, they have an inferiority complex I guess.

 

[TDHeysus]

being a lakers fan, I have never really liked Lebron that much. but he made it much more easier to not like him after he took his talents to South Beach. The way it was all handled, backed up with the arrogant statements; Him putting his foot in his mouth over his hilarious tweets; the arrogant miami 'coming out' party with Bosh and Wade when they looked like WWE stars entering the ring for Monday night RAW (do ya smeeeeeeellllllll..........). all of this makes it easier for non-miami fans to think he is an idiot. (keep in mind, he hasnt won anything)

What would have happened if Lebron went to the Knicks? he would still be the media sweetheart (just not in CLE) and would be on his way to becoming the King of NY, it would have been epic. He would have been the next 'Derek Jeter' in NY, but probably even bigger. I think his 'posse' (maverick carter) did him a big disservice by not steering him to NY, where he would have been the biggest alpha dog, in the biggest city in the world. instead he is second fiddle and partying it up in South Beach.

 

[Ben E.]

I was a casual Tiger fan only because its 45 minutes to Detroit so they were the closest MLB team. I went to quite a few games growing up. Their AAA team is in Toledo too so I saw as bunch of those games. I'm an Atlanta Braves fan though and have been as long as I can remember them playing on TBS (before they went on their run of division titles).

Perrysburg and the Toledo area in general is pretty well split on OSU/Michigan mostly because its less than an hour from Ann Arbor. I don't understand your comment about me being an ND fan. My dad and his family are all huge ND fans, grew up around it and have always loved ND. I went to Ohio State and that only reinforced my ND fandom.

What is the generic Walmart?

I don't think he said he hates Cleveland now. He said while growing up the kids from Akron were looked at as inferior as basketball players because they weren't from Cleveland. The documentary was on LeBron's basketball life growing up, not present day.

it was like a walmart that was decked out in wolervine crap but named something else??? i was there for a wedding...

i guess i just dont understand how you can be from ohio and be a fan of the yankees, bulls, braves, pistons, u of m, or whoever and not be a "bandwagon fan". i am a ND fan because i grew up in a catholic household and despite their mediocrity the majority of the last 18 years(and my lifetime) have refused to SELLOUT because its a part of who i am. because the first team that i supported was ND and the reason why, my fanhood isnt defined by the need to back whoever is winning at a particular time... in the end i can kinda understand the regional thing in the toledo area as it pertains to pro sports as it is right in the middle of two markets. in pro sports i guess the television coverage has lead people away from rooting for the teams where you live, just another way tv has ruined sports...

 

[Ben E.]

Exactly. He never said he hated Cleveland. Clevelanders are so sensitive, they have an inferiority complex I guess.

ok second city guy..

 

[clashmore_mike]

it was like a walmart that was decked out in wolervine crap but named something else??? i was there for a wedding...

i guess i just dont understand how you can be from ohio and be a fan of the yankees, bulls, braves, pistons, u of m, or whoever and not be a "bandwagon fan". i am a ND fan because i grew up in a catholic household and despite their mediocrity the majority of the last 18 years(and my lifetime) have refused to SELLOUT because its a part of who i am. because the first team that i supported was ND and the reason why, my fanhood isnt defined by the need to back whoever is winning at a particular time... in the end i can kinda understand the regional thing in the toledo area as it pertains to pro sports as it is right in the middle of two markets. in pro sports i guess the television coverage has lead people away from rooting for the teams where you live, just another way tv has ruined sports...

Ah couldn't tell you but I do know there are several "Buckeye/Wolverine" shops in the area which would support the claim that NWO is split between OSU and Michigan.

Being a bandwagon fan IMO has nothing to do with where you live. That is some of the worst reasoning in the entire discussion.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Lebron is like Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan. Minus the drugs and the jailtime. But everyday, seemingly, the guy does something else embarrassing. Or at least he would be embarrassed if he was the least bit in touch with reality.

 

[Sweetness34]

ok second city guy..

Huh? Second city guy? That relates to me how?

 

[Sweetness34]

Lebron is like Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan. Minus the drugs and the jailtime. But everyday, seemingly, the guy does something else embarrassing. Or at least he would be embarrassed if he was the least bit in touch with reality.

Not even close, no comparison but ok. What has he done embarrassing besides the decision? Especially lately.

 

[Sweetness34]

being a lakers fan, I have never really liked Lebron that much. but he made it much more easier to not like him after he took his talents to South Beach. The way it was all handled, backed up with the arrogant statements; Him putting his foot in his mouth over his hilarious tweets; the arrogant miami 'coming out' party with Bosh and Wade when they looked like WWE stars entering the ring for Monday night RAW (do ya smeeeeeeellllllll..........). all of this makes it easier for non-miami fans to think he is an idiot. (keep in mind, he hasnt won anything)

What would have happened if Lebron went to the Knicks? he would still be the media sweetheart (just not in CLE) and would be on his way to becoming the King of NY, it would have been epic. He would have been the next 'Derek Jeter' in NY, but probably even bigger. I think his 'posse' (maverick carter) did him a big disservice by not steering him to NY, where he would have been the biggest alpha dog, in the biggest city in the world. instead he is second fiddle and partying it up in South Beach.

You are wrong, first he does not have a posse, Kevin Garnett did. Second he chose to go to Miami. Everyone else wanted him to go to NY. Get your facts straight and by the way NY isn't as good as Miami.

 

[Kingbish01]

its funny how people who have probably never been to a place place make comments like this^. for instance, i have never been to atlanta, but i have this vision of old white neighborhoods being over run by urban sprawl turning into...well a warmer version of cleveland. lol!

Grew up in New Castle PA lived there till 2001, it borders Youngstown. I have been to Cleveland a million times, spin it how you want it's a ****hole. Best thing going there is the cleveland clinic. P.S. For what I paid for my house in Atlanta, I could have bought a whole city block in Cleveland....For REALZ

 

[Rhode Irish]

Not even close, no comparison but ok. What has he done embarrassing besides the decision? Especially lately.

Did you click on the link? Obviously, this kind of stuff does not make him a criminal. But, it does make him look foolish. How many friends would this guy have if he weren't insanely rich?

 

[Irish Fam]

I think he is an incredible athlete and was a big fan of him until he did Cleveland like that. The hour long "decision" special was a joke.

 

[BurningRiver]

.Cleveland blows, hometown or not who would ever want to live or play there.

That's an ignorant statement. I bet youve never even been to Cleveland, and it's unfair to make assumptions based on other peoples criticisms and a few hastily made tourism videos. As a clevelander, there are few things more annoying than hearing people who kkow nothing about cleveland other than the things they hear in the media bag on cleveland. If you've been to Cleveland and you personally feel like you would not like to play basketball here for a living then fine, but that's still no reason for you to say Cleveland blows.

Also, Cleveland is an excellent place to be a professional athlete. While the teams may not win, no matter how much you lose you will always be supported by the dedicaated fans here. When I watch cavs games I see the seats filled with a loyal and electric fan base (3rd in the league in attendance.) When I watch Miami games on tv I see a sh*tload of empty seats and disinterested fans. Pathetic.

 

[Kingbish01]

That's an ignorant statement. I bet youve never even been to Cleveland, and it's unfair to make assumptions based on other peoples criticisms and a few hastily made tourism videos. As a clevelander, there are few things more annoying than hearing people who kkow nothing about cleveland other than the things they hear in the media bag on cleveland. If you've been to Cleveland and you personally feel like you would not like to play basketball here for a living then fine, but that's still no reason for you to say Cleveland blows.

Also, Cleveland is an excellent place to be a professional athlete. While the teams may not win, no matter how much you lose you will always be supported by the dedicaated fans here. When I watch cavs games I see the seats filled with a loyal and electric fan base (3rd in the league in attendance.) When I watch Miami games on tv I see a sh*tload of empty seats and disinterested fans. Pathetic.

DUDE...read three comments above yours... Aw man, what am I going to do with these guys...lol

 

[BurningRiver]

DUDE...read three comments above yours... Aw man, what am I going to do with these guys...lol

Didn't see that. Sorry, lol. I just get defensive sometimes.. Its like someone not in your famy dissing your ugly sister. You have to have her back, even if you know they're right.

 

[Sweetness34]

Did you click on the link? Obviously, this kind of stuff does not make him a criminal. But, it does make him look foolish. How many friends would this guy have if he weren't insanely rich?

Yes I already heard about that. It was childish for both of them not just one but both and it didn't hurt anyone. He would still have a lot of friends just no nearly as wealthy as the ones he has now.

 

[Kingbish01]

Didn't see that. Sorry, lol. I just get defensive sometimes.. Its like someone not in your famy dissing your ugly sister. You have to have her back, even if you know they're right.

I will make it up to you and give you 3 things I like about Cleveland...

1.) The Flats....I blasted through some pretty HOT cleveland girls ; )

2.) Rockin Roll Hall of Fame

3.) Sorry dude I tried! But I gave you 2

 

[clashmore_mike]

Also, Cleveland is an excellent place to be a professional athlete. While the teams may not win, no matter how much you lose you will always be supported by the dedicaated fans here. When I watch cavs games I see the seats filled with a loyal and electric fan base (3rd in the league in attendance.) When I watch Miami games on tv I see a sh*tload of empty seats and disinterested fans. Pathetic.

What is the point of playing then?

The Cavs attendance numbers are overblown. The deadline for season tickets was before LeBron left. I don't recall ANY Cavs fan honestly saying that LeBron would leave. Hold off on saying how great the fans are until next year at this time. Do you have an idea what the average attendance was the year before LeBron was drafted? It was about 2000 less than what the Nets are drawing this year which would put them last.