Michael Floyd planning on staying for senior year?

[CanadianIrish]

Alternatively, you can look at people like Jake Locker who lost millions by coming back. Sam Bradford managed to pull it off but very nearly did the same. Factor in that they're injury prone and another year gives them the chance to redeem, but we're also assuming they have amazing years. What if they don't? What if they get hurt again?

Jake Locker was being talked about as a first overall pick, not a second round pick. Floyd and Rudy can't do much worse than they are now in terms of draft positioning.

This is an outrageously strong year for wide receivers, whereas next year the only big prospect on the boards now is Alshon Jeffrey (who I think grossly overperformed this year). Floyd is likely to make more money if he's a first round pick next year than a late second this year - he'll go after Green, Jones, Baldwin for sure.

As for Rudy, I think the same applies. He's going to be the top tight end whenever he comes out, but because of injuries he's getting pushed into the second round when he's a first round talent. He isn't going to be able to workout for the scouts at 100% because of his injury, and that's going to hurt him more.

In both cases I think it makes more sense financially for them to come out - except for a risk of a change to the rookie pay scale that might come in the next CBA. However, there is also the emotional issue. This is the senior year for our 2008 recruits who were a top 3 class despite the fact we were terrible that year. Crist, Rudy, Floyd, Cwynar etc. were supposed to get their shot at a national title this year, and I think there will be a big emotional factor playing on these kids too.

If they come back I truly think we're going to a BCS bowl.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Really hope that Michael Floyd comes back next year. He played an awesome game against Miami and I think he will only be better (scary thought) next year.

 

[irishff1014]

Would be good to have if we can get a good running game going. We could have some good play makers on the offense.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Really hope that Michael Floyd comes back next year. He played an awesome game against Miami and I think he will only be better (scary thought) next year.

Not sure what his family's financial situation is, but I think he needs to go for his sake. I absolutely love watching him play, but seeing how things usually work out for those guys who decide to come back I would hate to have him regret his decision.

Guy's a stud and if he or Rudy fall into the 2nd round they will be the steal of the draft.

 

[phork]

Not sure what his family's financial situation is, but I think he needs to go for his sake. I absolutely love watching him play, but seeing how things usually work out for those guys who decide to come back I would hate to have him regret his decision.

Guy's a stud and if he or Rudy fall into the 2nd round they will be the steal of the draft.

Like Clausen and Tate ?

 

[CanadianIrish]

Not sure what his family's financial situation is, but I think he needs to go for his sake. I absolutely love watching him play, but seeing how things usually work out for those guys who decide to come back I would hate to have him regret his decision.

Guy's a stud and if he or Rudy fall into the 2nd round they will be the steal of the draft.

That's what they said about Clausen, his career may now be effectively over if the Panthers draft luck. Tate has done nothing to show he has a big future in the NFL.

If they want to get drafted and be able to say they made the NFL and be sure to make some money, go this year. If they want to be first round picks and have teams plan their offense around them and potentially make enough money to ensure the financial well being of their families for generations, come back for another year. It's as simple as that.

 

[GreatGolson]

100,000 Irish Fans Who Want Michael Floyd to Stay | Facebook
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[PJWhitfield]

Maybe coach Kelly can sell the college here-and-now focus to college players. That would be nice. Seems like Charlie Weis was more interested in selling his pro links, which had the effect of encouraging early exits.

 

[GreatGolson]

off topic but it sounds like Chris Stewart is leaving law school to enter his name in the Draft, good choice IMO because now that he would no longer be on scholarship ND Law would be VERY exspensive

 

[Dizzyphil]

Like Clausen and Tate ?

Exactly, it's all about the Benjamins.... Clausen's contract has $2.53 million in guarantees regardless of what happens to his future.


Diz

 

[NDinL.A.]

That's what they said about Clausen, his career may now be effectively over if the Panthers draft luck.

Yeah, because no QB ever gets traded to another team and succeeds. Not Favre, not Young, not Schaub, not Brees, not anyone. It just simply doesn't happen.

C'mon man, your hyperbole is just a bit over the top, no?

I agree with you on the 2nd round thing though. Both Rudolph and Floyd could be staring directly at it. HOwever, with the way the TE has been used as such a weapon this year, especially in New England where Tom Brady has used 2 rookies and friggin' carved up the league, it is not a stretch to think that Rudolph, as the top TE in the draft, could sneak into the first round. A healthy combine would certainly help, though I doubt that happens...

 

[condoms SUCk]

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just did, IE FAMILY please sent to other friends on facebook as well!!!!!

 

[Irish Insanity]

I 'liked' it and sent it to all of my ND facebook buddies and any current recruits on my page.

 

[CanadianIrish]

Yeah, because no QB ever gets traded to another team and succeeds. Not Favre, not Young, not Schaub, not Brees, not anyone. It just simply doesn't happen.

C'mon man, your hyperbole is just a bit over the top, no?

I agree with you on the 2nd round thing though. Both Rudolph and Floyd could be staring directly at it. HOwever, with the way the TE has been used as such a weapon this year, especially in New England where Tom Brady has used 2 rookies and friggin' carved up the league, it is not a stretch to think that Rudolph, as the top TE in the draft, could sneak into the first round. A healthy combine would certainly help, though I doubt that happens...

Did you not read the word "may"? His career may be over, that's a fact. His career may also be saved by a trade to Arizona. That's also a fact. It's not hyperbole to say something very possible might happen.

I'm sure Rudy could sneak into the tail end of the first round if he works out and does well. There is some talk that Tony Gonzales might retire, which I suspect would mean Atlanta takes him at the bottom of the first round (they would pick no higher than 30th).

The question is just whether they would get picked higher enough next year to get enough more guaranteed money to compensate for the loss of a season. Given the nature of this year's draft (for Floyd), and personal health situation (for Rudy) I think they would.

 

[PADOMERNUT]

That's what they said about Clausen, his career may now be effectively over if the Panthers draft luck. Tate has done nothing to show he has a big future in the NFL.

If they want to get drafted and be able to say they made the NFL and be sure to make some money, go this year. If they want to be first round picks and have teams plan their offense around them and potentially make enough money to ensure the financial well being of their families for generations, come back for another year. It's as simple as that.

Seriously???? Career over after his rookie season. Wow

 

[PADOMERNUT]

Did you not read the word "may"? His career may be over, that's a fact. His career may also be saved by a trade to Arizona. That's also a fact. It's not hyperbole to say something very possible might happen.

I'm sure Rudy could sneak into the tail end of the first round if he works out and does well. There is some talk that Tony Gonzales might retire, which I suspect would mean Atlanta takes him at the bottom of the first round (they would pick no higher than 30th).

The question is just whether they would get picked higher enough next year to get enough more guaranteed money to compensate for the loss of a season. Given the nature of this year's draft (for Floyd), and personal health situation (for Rudy) I think they would.

Okay, well I may sleep with a supermodel tonight. But that just isnt going to happen. Using the word "may" doesnt make your statement any less outrageous.

 

[Fan of the Irish]

Seriously???? Career over after his rookie season. Wow

It's not unheard of, look at Brady Quinn he was thrown into a bad situation at Cleveland and that has pretty much killed his career up to now. Even at Denver he's still pretty well sucking it up in any playing time I've seen of him.

 

[Freeman Ara]

That's what they said about Clausen, his career may now be effectively over if the Panthers draft luck. Tate has done nothing to show he has a big future in the NFL.

If they want to get drafted and be able to say they made the NFL and be sure to make some money, go this year. If they want to be first round picks and have teams plan their offense around them and potentially make enough money to ensure the financial well being of their families for generations, come back for another year. It's as simple as that.

Only problem is it's not that easy. Rudolph plays TE, the highest a TE has been taken since 2000 is 6th (Vernon Davis and Kellen Winslow). The next highest selection was 14th. Tight end just isn't a position that demands a top of the first round selection unless your a freak physically (Davis). So given the fact that there is likely going to be a rookie cap next season KR could get more this year as a late first rounder then a mid-first rounder next season.

Floyd should comeback just due to the depth at the position this year, but he isn't guaranteed to be the top WR taken next season either. Floyd's issue, besides health, is that he isn't a blazer and never will be. NFL GM's love 40 times and unless Floyd starts running sub-4.45 forties he's probably going to be a mid to late first round pick next year. Which again might mean less money then a high second this year.

It's hard to talk about the financial aspects of the situation with only 50% of the information. We should know this week what they decide.

If it's me and they tell me I'm projected to go in the first round I leave knowing I'm going to make a pretty good chunk of change. Sometimes you gotta take what you can get, when you can get it.

 

[JayRock]

Personally, if I was Rudy or Floyd I wouldn't want to be taken in the top 10. Sure, you'd make a little more paper, but if you're taken by the Falcons or Eagles or Bears (you get the idea), your career and life will be much easier than if taken by the Panthers or some other bad squad. Just my .02.

 

[irishmarine]

With the free agent class that is about to be opened, any team can turn around quickly. For those two guys I would look at potential and dreams. Did I dream of turning nd around and do I have te potential to help or do I have the potential of living my dream and playing in the NFL?which one weighs more and follow that dream.

 

[lookingdeadred]

I am not a big fan of Clausen, but

I am not a big fan of Clausen, but

to pronounce his career may be over is over the top, aka hyperbole.

Did you not read the word "may"? His career may be over, that's a fact. His career may also be saved by a trade to Arizona. That's also a fact. It's not hyperbole to say something very possible might happen.

 

[InKellyITrust]

I wonder if Golden's lack of success would influence Floyd into staying for his senior year.

I'm sure that Michael will reach out to Golden and I wonder what type of advice that Tate would give to him.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Really hoping Floyd comes back for one more year. At this point I don't think he will, but hopefully he does. Next year could be a very special year and I would love Floyd to be a part of that. This years draft class has alot of talented receivers, so in my opinion, it's really a guess as to where Floyd would end up.

 

[Rack Em]

Just gonna throw this out there.

I talked to one of the receivers on the team after the Sun Bowl. They don't know anymore then we do about if Floyd is leaving. He's still waiting to hear back from the draft committee and will make his decision then. As of now he's probably not a first round pick, but this player said Floyd has the physical capabilities to test into the first round. He also felt that Rudolph would fall into the second round since he can't test out.

I'm not really saying anything new, but just wanted to let everybody know that the players don't have anymore inside info than we do.

 

[TDHeysus]

Did you not read the word "may"? His career may be over, that's a fact. His career may also be saved by a trade to Arizona. That's also a fact. It's not hyperbole to say something very possible might happen.

even if it doesnt work out in Carolina, Clausen still has a few stops/chances before his career is over.

 

[Veer option]

I wonder if Golden's lack of success would influence Floyd into staying for his senior year.

I'm sure that Michael will reach out to Golden and I wonder what type of advice that Tate would give to him.

I think the biggest problem with Tate is that Pete Carroll or the OC for the Sea chickens doesn't know how to use him. Tate plays much better in space than he does matched up with a faster CB. If perhaps Tate was traded to a team such as Indy, or N.O. where they utilize 3-4 WR sets I think he could get his pro career back on track.

 

[CanadianIrish]

even if it doesnt work out in Carolina, Clausen still has a few stops/chances before his career is over.

Good lord, you guys are just frantic to argue semantics rather than addressing the actual point that was made, which was fans on this website are over the top enamoured with ND players and don't view their pro prospects objectively. The fact that this is the response that quote is getting is only further proof of the point I was making.

The two players this board delcared the "steals of the draft" last year have not panned out at all, and one is likely to have another player at his position picked first overall this year.

Now this year, we're again declaring we have two guys who are going to be the steals of the draft because nobody understands their incredible skill like we do.

Just try to be objective as a fan for even one minute instead of just arguing semantics and avoiding the real issue.

 

[lookingdeadred]

Not semantics at all

Not semantics at all

Questioning your quick dismissal of Clausen as an NFL QB is not sematics. Yes, the kid struggled this year, but it is way to soon to suggest he is a bust, which is exactly what you are doing. Not semantics, I and others disagree with your knee jerk characterization of Clausen.

Good lord, you guys are just frantic to argue semantics rather than addressing the actual point that was made, which was fans on this website are over the top enamoured with ND players and don't view their pro prospects objectively. The fact that this is the response that quote is getting is only further proof of the point I was making.

The two players this board delcared the "steals of the draft" last year have not panned out at all, and one is likely to have another player at his position picked first overall this year.

Now this year, we're again declaring we have two guys who are going to be the steals of the draft because nobody understands their incredible skill like we do.

Just try to be objective as a fan for even one minute instead of just arguing semantics and avoiding the real issue.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

I would just like to add a few cents on the whole Clausen thing. I don't believe he is a bust YET. Carolina was horrible this year and he was just a rookie. Clausen has struggled for sure, but look at what he has to work with in addition to him being a rookie and trying to learn. Had Clausen landed elsewhere with more talent things might be different. Some players work better in different systems, and Carolina has been a mess this season, with or without Clausen at the helm. I think it is way too early to predict how Clausen will pan out.

 

[Freeman Ara]

Good lord, you guys are just frantic to argue semantics rather than addressing the actual point that was made, which was fans on this website are over the top enamoured with ND players and don't view their pro prospects objectively. The fact that this is the response that quote is getting is only further proof of the point I was making.

The two players this board delcared the "steals of the draft" last year have not panned out at all, and one is likely to have another player at his position picked first overall this year.

Now this year, we're again declaring we have two guys who are going to be the steals of the draft because nobody understands their incredible skill like we do.

Just try to be objective as a fan for even one minute instead of just arguing semantics and avoiding the real issue.

I think for the most part most of us are being pretty objective. We want Floyd to come back because he isn't the top rated WR this year and could be in a better position next year to get drafted higher. Rudolph is the highest rated TE in the draft and has been for a long time, where he goes will depend on team need. What is so over the top about these statements?

Now as far as Clausen and Tate. I don't remember Tate being deemed a steal of the draft by many of us. I think he went about where he should have gone last year and he would have gone lower if he stayed another year. Did a lot of us feel like he could be a good to great NFL player? Yep. Time will tell.

Now Clausen on the other hand, at the time, was a steal. He graded out by many draft analysts as being a first round talent and the second QB overall, physically. His issues were attitude. So basically Carolina got a potential QB of the future that could have cost them 50 million or so for about 6 million if I remember correctly. Sounds like a steal to me.

By the way, you might not like how over the top some of us guys may be about ND players, which is fine. But you seem to like to write kids/players off at the first sign of failure, or because of the lack of a 4th or 5th star next to their name. I would have loved to see some of your posts about Clausen back in 2007 if you had been around.