ND/Big Ten....joe pa says no.

mick2

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Hey Joepa newsflash we dont want to be in your crappy conference
 

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we could definately dominate the big ten but i dont ever want to see ND tied to any conference
 

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JoePa will be long dead before ND ever even entertains the idea of joining a conference.
 

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Paterno: Expand Big Ten, but no Notre Dame - College Football - Rivals.com

i don't know about you guys, but i'd love to see nd in the big ten. but not so, according to joe pa.

No. No. A thousand times NO!

ND has a national following plays a national schedule. Indiana is not a hotbed for football recruits. Check PU's and IU's success.

Add ND's academic requirements and a restricted recruiting area (Big 10 schedule would preclude games around the country) and you kill the program.

Despite his protestations to the contrary joePa would love for ND to join the Big 10, put them in the other Division and play them once every 3 or 4 years.
 

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who gives a shit about anything Joe Paterno says about anything? The guys thinks its 1968 still, and he coaches like it, too.
 

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Paterno says we have our chance ten years ago to join the BIG 10? They had their chance 60 years ago when those prejudice bastards refused to let us join the conference because we were a Catholic university. I hope we never join a conference, and if we do, I hope it's not the Big 10 because I don't ever want to help those tards ride our back of national exposure.
 

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Who cares what JoePa says? The man hasn't been thinking rationally since the '80's.

Methinks he's still simmering over a certain 41-17 ass beating in 2006.
 

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I honestly think he is afraid of us!

If anything the Big-11 needs us, they are struggling and they need better competition. As for ND joining a conference, I hope not. It would be a waste of time. We don't need to be in a conference to succeed and it will be proven in the next couple of years.

What has happened though is we've had some bad coaches with some lazy recruiting which has downgraded our reputation. Everyone thinks that we are not having success because we are not in a conference.
 

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I dont think the Irish should be in a conference. I do think Joe Pa is a hell of a coach. Whether he likes ND or not I really dont care, but he certainly has my respect for his coaching record. PSU is a great football tradition. I will say I hope we beat them down every time we play them.


ON another note, I have friends that are Texas A&M, Tennessee, Purdue and Alabama alumni. One thing they always said was that Notre Dame fans had the most class of anyone. Class when they won and class when they lost. I was always proud of that type of respect and always try to uphold that. However, Miami and USC fans can kiss my arse.
 

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I dont think the Irish should be in a conference. I do think Joe Pa is a hell of a coach.

Joe Pa WAS a good coach, Aralou, IMO. Not anymore. I've written this more at length in other threads, but I'll say it again: Penn St. was awful for several years until JoePa gave the grenn light to allow his assts to recruit guys with character issues 6 years ago, which goes against everything he believed in while he built that program. Look at all the police incidents in the last 6 years. Dispicable. I've lost soooo much respect for him since then.

As for a conference, the only time I want to join a conference is when we're getting hosed by the officials, who of course belong to the conference of the team we are playing. I scream at the T.V. and anybody who'll listen that we have to join a conference or we'll keep getting jobbed by those guys until we join a conference.

But then the game ends, a couple of hours pass by, and I regain my mind. But just watch when an easy call goes against us (think Grimes against Stanford 2 years ago), you might even be screaming for it yourself, LOL...
 

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Who cares what JoePa says? The man hasn't been thinking rationally since the '80's.

Methinks he's still simmering over a certain 41-17 ass beating in 2006.

You forget that they repaid us the next year?
 

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I dont see why everyone is knockin Joe Pa but anyways, Notre Dame should NEVER join a conference. I ask anyone who thinks otherwise to give me just one good reason
 

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I live in PA and I am tired of JoePA and his "sainthood". Please check his grad rates and not just the past six years when the inmates have run the show. I do not ever think it was higher than ours. I my view he is one of the biggest contributors to the system we have now. Why did he have to join a conference? Why the Big 10 and not ACC? He wanted to go to the Rose Bowl is the only reason. He loves a soft schedule and is constantly stating its his Big 10 schedule that keeps him from playing Pitt every year or WVU every other year. No its not the Big 10 its him, he holds a gun to their heads and tell them he needs two games at PSU for every one he plays away. He is an old fool and should just shut up and move on.
 

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Sweet Jesus........

What's with all the hate for Joe Pa? I tend to agree with his line of thinking. The smart business move for the Big Ten would be to cultivate a bigger following in the large markets of the East (Not the Midwest or the Great Lakes, but the EAST). All he is saying is, "Hey, we invited them once, and they said no. So why not look elsewhere this time?" I totally agree with that sentiment. The bottom line here is that some of you guys are angry about our lack of success the past few years. So now you are hypersensitive to anything that even remotely sounds like criticism. Let me remind you that the ND tradition was built on the backs of young men who could have been bitter about everyone telling them that they were not big enough, strong enough, or fast enough to win. In my mind, the best way to honor that tradition is to stand above the current disappointment, the current negative vibe coming from the mouths of the infidels of college football analysis, and the current carping from within. We all want the team to compete for a national championship every year. As a recovering Catholic, I am probably the last person who should talk about faith. But just because I choose to think for myself, instead of letting the Church tell me how to think, doesn't mean that I am devoid of faith. Stand above all of the noise, and have faith that our time will come again. Honest, realistic criticism is one thing, but leave the vitriol for Joe Pa at home. Joining the Big Ten (or any other conference, for that matter) won't kill the program any worse than a 3-9 season will.
 

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Sweet Jesus........

What's with all the hate for Joe Pa? I tend to agree with his line of thinking. The smart business move for the Big Ten would be to cultivate a bigger following in the large markets of the East (Not the Midwest or the Great Lakes, but the EAST). All he is saying is, "Hey, we invited them once, and they said no. So why not look elsewhere this time?" I totally agree with that sentiment. The bottom line here is that some of you guys are angry about our lack of success the past few years. So now you are hypersensitive to anything that even remotely sounds like criticism. Let me remind you that the ND tradition was built on the backs of young men who could have been bitter about everyone telling them that they were not big enough, strong enough, or fast enough to win. In my mind, the best way to honor that tradition is to stand above the current disappointment, the current negative vibe coming from the mouths of the infidels of college football analysis, and the current carping from within. We all want the team to compete for a national championship every year. As a recovering Catholic, I am probably the last person who should talk about faith. But just because I choose to think for myself, instead of letting the Church tell me how to think, doesn't mean that I am devoid of faith. Stand above all of the noise, and have faith that our time will come again. Honest, realistic criticism is one thing, but leave the vitriol for Joe Pa at home. Joining the Big Ten (or any other conference, for that matter) won't kill the program any worse than a 3-9 season will.

I admire you using your God given intellect as oppose to marching in lockstep. Luther questioned dogma; faith was his bottom line. Gallieo found the truth, was arrested, but still published his findings. You're in good company.

I agree with the vitrol comment.

Joining the Big Ten, Eleven, or Twelve would fulfill Monk's goal of being the Stanford of the East, the Vanderbilt of the North, and the the Virginia of the Midwest. All of those conference members have higher academic requirements for their student athletes to gain admission, to stay eligible, and to EARN a degree than do their fellow league members. And they pay the price with mediocrity on the field competing with those fellow league members that graduate 50% of their student athletes. Notre Dame has demonstrated that excellence can be achieved in the classroom AND on the field. Joining a conference compromises those values and tarnishes the tradition built on the backs of players, coaches, and adminstrators who struggled through economic disadvantage and religious bigotry to build that legacy. When the Big 10 graduates 94% of their student body I'd consider joining but until then they don't measure up.

And for the record ND has had worse than a 3-9 season and they've endured.

GO IRISH!
 
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