'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[NDinL.A.]

^dont expect him to ever see significant playing time (if he plays at all) Playing basketball was just another tool used by BK to lure him in. If Golson is given the starting QB slot (or used in a wildcat formation) and sees time in football, he wont play basketball

It wasn't just a 'tool'...Brey was fully on board. He met with Brey, watched them practice, and the interest was mutual.

As a coach, you don't want to get into the habit of lying and/or misleading recruits (yes, it worked for Urban Liar, but still). If you promise a kid a shot at playing another sport, you give it to him. Now, the way Brey uses his bench, the kid won't see time until his jr year (unless he's a stud), so I agree he might not play a lot if at all. But to say he'll never play basketball if he's a starter in football or if he even plays is incorrect IMO. Plenty of players have played both sports, including McNabb, Charlie Ward, and Julius Peppers. It can be done...

 

[fitz_bu47]

Well said NDinLA....Tony Gonzalez is who I thought of, not a qb, but he played both pretty well.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Well said NDinLA....Tony Gonzalez is who I thought of, not a qb, but he played both pretty well.

I agree with both you...Gonzalez and Ward are the two that pop in my mind right a way...

I think GreatDayne is actually to young to know that Gonzalez, McNabb and Peppers played basketball and is to young to know who Charlie Ward is.

 

[johnnykillz]

I agree with both you...Gonzalez and Ward are the two that pop in my mind right a way...

I think GreatDayne is actually to young to know that Gonzalez, McNabb and Peppers played basketball and is to young to know who Charlie Ward is.

I bet he googles it before he responds to you though...

lol.

 

[Old Man Mike]

When I was at ND in circa 1960, we had an ape-like [though intelligent] end on the football team named Mike Graney. When football season was over, he walked right into practices and shortly into a starting position [shared]. He was smart enough to know all the formations/patterns, and had done some extra running to get into basketball running shape [not the same as football running shape]. He was able to step right in, and the coach happy to have him, because he brought something special to the table---in his case raw rebounding power and intimidating defense in the meathouse.

I've known a lot of very good basketball players [it was in my humble way, my sport]. Almost all of them, if they were in shape, could immediately turn on their game. I believe that Golson must be extremely good or UNC wouldn't have even glanced at him. I'll bet that Brey is salivating at the chance to get him on the court for half-seasons. If Golson doesn't play a lot of BBall for ND, I'll be surprised.

P.S. at WMU we had the same thing happen [again a tight end going to power forward.] That player started the first game that he was able to past football season, to the significant upgrade of the team.

 

[GreatGolson]

^ you are correct, however i just dont see Golson playing basketball

 

[GreatGolson]

and no i did not google it johnny, i am aware that athletes can and have played multiple sports, i just dont see it with Everett

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'm not sure why this is of much interest to us, as surely his success on the practice court will determine how much bball he plays at ND, but in the interest of seeding some facts into any interested party's imagination: Golson was considered an excellent point guard prospect. He averaged almost twenty points per game [19.6] [for a state championship team] despite being a fast-break-leading & pass-first ball-handler. His passing skills are considered to be outstanding, and feature tremendous people-in-motion awareness plus great strength [the ability to throw a one-hand long pass on a line]. He has good ups, and can dunk the ball in traffic, though not spectacularly so. He is a good rebounder for a guard [c. 5/game, matching his assists total]. His court speed with the ball is excellent, passing up many defenders who do not have the ball to bother with. His defensive anticipation seems to be good, and he gets two steals per game. This is a good stat-stuffer sheet total, and I can see why ESPN gave him a rating in basketball on their point guard lists. Whether he will be good enough for the Big East level that ND plays at, who knows?? It's certainly not obvious that he DOESN'T have such ability at this point in our knowledge.

 

[GreatGolson]

off topic but any idea on what # he'll wear?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

It wasn't just a 'tool'...Brey was fully on board. He met with Brey, watched them practice, and the interest was mutual.

As a coach, you don't want to get into the habit of lying and/or misleading recruits (yes, it worked for Urban Liar, but still). If you promise a kid a shot at playing another sport, you give it to him. Now, the way Brey uses his bench, the kid won't see time until his jr year (unless he's a stud), so I agree he might not play a lot if at all. But to say he'll never play basketball if he's a starter in football or if he even plays is incorrect IMO. Plenty of players have played both sports, including McNabb, Charlie Ward, and Julius Peppers. It can be done...

I don't know all of the details, but a friend of mine's nephew is a college head coach in basketball, and saw him play at a camp. He would give his left testicle for him to play in his program. Said he was hands-down the best high school basketball talent at the camp, and apparently it included some highly recruited hs players going to big time programs.

 

[amgarvey]

I don't know all of the details, but a friend of mine's nephew is a college head coach in basketball, and saw him play at a camp. He would give his left testicle for him to play in his program. Said he was hands-down the best high school basketball talent at the camp, and apparently it included some highly recruited hs players going to big time programs.

I would assume he would be pretty solid if he was going to play for UNC. They generally don't trot out a bunch of chumps.

 

[Kingbish01]

If he wanted a career in hoops, he would have went to UNC. He will play hoops and be damn good, but this kid will win some great games under touchdown Jesus...CAN'T WAIT!!!!@

 

[GreatGolson]

YouTube - Everett Golson Senior Season Highlights he is on a different level from his competition. Cannot wait to see him in action

 

[GoIrish41]

I agree with both you...Gonzalez and Ward are the two that pop in my mind right a way...

I think GreatDayne is actually to young to know that Gonzalez, McNabb and Peppers played basketball and is to young to know who Charlie Ward is.

Julius Peppers also played basketball in college for NC.

 

[Irish Insanity]

While I completely agree he will have a better college football career than college basketball, he has stated ALOT of interest in playing basketball also. I expect to see him suit up for both at ND. And ND is currently ranked 15th w/ UNC not even in the top 25. They will return to their elite status soon no doubt, but our program has greatly improved over the last 5+ years.

 

[Riddickulous]

YouTube - Everett Golson Senior Season Highlights he is on a different level from his competition. Cannot wait to see him in action

What I'm noticing on this tape...

Pros

- Very good arm strength
- Very accurate
- Excellent touch
- Throws a beautiful deep ball
- Tight spirals
- Excellent mobility
- Incredibly elusive, great moves in the open field
- Excellent speed for a QB

Cons

- Makes a lot of dangerous throws
- Holds the football incredibly loose while running
- Size


I can't wait to see what Brian Kelly does when Everett sets foot on campus.

 

[General Colon Bowel]

What I'm noticing on this tape...

Pros

- Very good arm strength
- Very accurate
- Excellent touch
- Throws a beautiful deep ball
- Tight spirals
- Excellent mobility
- Incredibly elusive, great moves in the open field
- Excellent speed for a QB

Cons

- Makes a lot of dangerous throws
- Holds the football incredibly loose while running
- Size


I can't wait to see what Brian Kelly does when Everett sets foot on campus.

The good thing is 2 of those 3 cons can be fixed by good coaching. Obviously size can't, but in the college game there have been tons of short qbs who have succeeded, especially in spread offenses. he's not that much shorter than Rees.

 

[GreatGolson]

if i remember troy smith was just barely 6'

 

[woolybug25]

if i remember troy smith was just barely 6'

So is Michael Vick... but he is also 215 pounds.

At 170 pounds, Golson will get a HUGE benefit from a college weight program. Like most 18 year old athletes, he is underweight. I expect to see some major gains in this area over the summer. If he can come in at even 190, then watch out!

 

[GreatGolson]

No Access anybody with a membership give me the jist?

 

[TerryTate]

Johnny can tomorrow when he wakes up

 

[GreatGolson]

thanks, if u dont remember Golsons my favorite freshman so i'd really like to see what someone who coached him has to say about him

 

[BGIF]

When I was at ND in circa 1960, we had an ape-like [though intelligent] end on the football team named Mike Graney. When football season was over, he walked right into practices and shortly into a starting position [shared]. He was smart enough to know all the formations/patterns, and had done some extra running to get into basketball running shape [not the same as football running shape]. He was able to step right in, and the coach happy to have him, because he brought something special to the table---in his case raw rebounding power and intimidating defense in the meathouse.

I've known a lot of very good basketball players [it was in my humble way, my sport]. Almost all of them, if they were in shape, could immediately turn on their game. I believe that Golson must be extremely good or UNC wouldn't have even glanced at him. I'll bet that Brey is salivating at the chance to get him on the court for half-seasons. If Golson doesn't play a lot of BBall for ND, I'll be surprised.

P.S. at WMU we had the same thing happen [again a tight end going to power forward.] That player started the first game that he was able to past football season, to the significant upgrade of the team.

A couple years after you left there was 6-5 270 Kevin Hardy who I believe lettered in 3 sports, starting in a least 2. But times have changed since the 60's, athlete spend almost the entire year conditioning, practicing, watching film, playing and competing in the ND classroom which does have a 1960's student body anymore. Some guys are talented enough and smart enough to do both but with the demands in on the field and in the classroom there's still only 24 hours in a day.

 

[BGIF]

I may be overlooking somebody but I don't recall too many short QBs starting for ND.

Jarious Jackson was 6-0 but a solid 220-230 he was built like a LB. Before Jarious you have to go back to Tom Clements 6-0 190 in the early 70's (who won an NC) and shortly before him Joe Theismann 6-0 170. IF Golson plays as well as Jackson, Clements, or Theismann, ND will do well.

Then of course in the 80's there was a short, quick, lightweight that played QB for BC and won a Heisman at 5-10, 175. Doug Flutie ran defenses ragged.

 

[DaBLKIrishman]

Tony Rice is 5"11 at best and that's pushing it.

 

[BGIF]

Tony Rice is 5"11 at best and that's pushing it.

Tony Rice was listed at 6-1 and 190 to 200 by ND. All the HTs and WTs are ND's.

IF ND overreported and Rice was 5-11, shouldn't we drop Theismann to 5-11, 160?

 

[BGIF]

Scout dropped him one slot to #15 QB, 4 Stars.

 

[RyCo1983]

He'll definitely be invaluable in preparing the team for Denard Robinson this year...

 

[BGIF]

He'll definitely be invaluable in preparing the team for Denard Robinson this year...

wherever Denard ends up.


Good point. Add the Navy QB and the other QBs that have had a career feet day against us.

 

[InKellyITrust]

Denard will try but fail in preparing UM for Golson. The problem for our opponents is that no one resembles Golson but himself.