Cam Newton wins Heisman Trophy

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i think there was an identical thread to this made about 4 weeks ago
 
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Who cares. Ill start the thread now....
"Cam Newton has to return Heisman and Auburn forefits 2010 season!"

Least excited I've ever been concerning the Heisman.
 
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its a shame that this whole situation is going to ruin a great season and potentially make what could be considered one of the greatest games ever be erased from the record books. Not to mention take away from a great player
 
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If he won it by, like, 30-60 points, I wouldn't have been as angry as I am right now.

700 f*cking points? After he was pimped out by his dad for $18,000? Where's the freaking intregrety?
 
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Nuggets from Cam Cam


My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed. 39 minutes ago via web Um yeah we heard

CameronNewton It's no longer called the Heisman pose, it's now the Cam Newton pose. about 4 hours ago via TweetDeck

Cameron Newton didn't win the Heisman. The Heisman won Cam Newton. about 4 hours ago via TweetDeck

Just texted Cecil Newton and asked him how I looked and he said I look like money! about 5 hours ago via TweetDeck This just makes me laugh, that is exactly what your dad thinks you look like, so awesome that he just said this.
 
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I feel the Heisman is more commercialized than Christmas now. Lots of reasons this felt "dirty". If the foundation has two empty spots after more is found out about Newton, the luster lost will hopefully bring this award back to Earth.

...No way his father tried getting money for his commitment without Cam having a clue what was going on...hence the quote to Miss St "I committed to Auburn because the money was too much." The kid had to have some serious issues to get thrown out of Florida:
Theft
Florida Gators backup QB Cameron Newton faces theft charges - St. Petersburg Times
Cheating
Report: Cam Newton left Florida after charges of academic cheating - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com
 
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Does anyone actually care. No his a POS just the like his so called Preacher Daddy. Lets go Ducks put him on his back and beat that CHeating team.
 
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WabashFalcon said:
If he won it by, like, 30-60 points, I wouldn't have been as angry as I am right now.

700 f*cking points? After he was pimped out by his dad for $18,000? Where's the freaking intregrety?
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I'm with you, but remember this is college football and as long as you are good enough the is absoloutely no need for integrity.
 
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they should really reconsider how they go about the voting and criteria for nominees for the heisman. that award used to sacred now its almost a joke. its basically for the player on one of the teams going to the bcs championship, which at one point that didnt matter. and second crooks and criminals. it is very tarnished in the publics eye. they need to change it up. one year let the public vote. because our paychecks have nothing to do with college football. that way someone like kellen moore might have won last night. instead of loss because his kicker missed and didnt play in a conference. but most of all hes just a good dude. but thats why theyd never let us vote because americans love the under dog. not the flashy kid that knows he already won sitting there "tweeting"on his cell phone on national t.v. while the other three sit there like their in church, knees knocking nervous. guess the newtons never heard of humility before. poor parenting on national t.v. i love it.
 
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Kellen Moore this year reminds me of Brady Quinn when he finished a distant third behind Bush and Vince Young. Great player, just not flashy enough for the Heisman trophy.
 
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bigeasy47 said:
they should really reconsider how they go about the voting and criteria for nominees for the heisman. that award used to sacred now its almost a joke. its basically for the player on one of the teams going to the bcs championship, which at one point that didnt matter. and second crooks and criminals. it is very tarnished in the publics eye. they need to change it up. one year let the public vote. because our paychecks have nothing to do with college football. that way someone like kellen moore might have won last night. instead of loss because his kicker missed and didnt play in a conference. but most of all hes just a good dude. but thats why theyd never let us vote because americans love the under dog. not the flashy kid that knows he already won sitting there "tweeting"on his cell phone on national t.v. while the other three sit there like their in church, knees knocking nervous. guess the newtons never heard of humility before. poor parenting on national t.v. i love it.
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Actually, while I'm not completely satisfied with the results most years, I'm glad that they don't take the player's "integrity" into question. That opens up a HUGE can of worms. Who is going to decide what behavior is ok, and what behavior should disqualify a guy from being eligible? Hell, OJ is a double murderer, and he still is in the books as a Heisman Winner. As long as the kid is eligible to play, under the NCAA guidelines, then I don't think that his character, or lack thereof, should play a major part. If you found out that the kid was running a crack house on campus, or had stabbed two people to death, then I think that is one story. But unfounded allegations of a kid being involved in a pay-for-play scheme is another one, entirely.
 
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Actually, while I'm not completely satisfied with the results most years, I'm glad that they don't take the player's "integrity" into question. That opens up a HUGE can of worms. Who is going to decide what behavior is ok, and what behavior should disqualify a guy from being eligible? Hell, OJ is a double murderer, and he still is in the books as a Heisman Winner. As long as the kid is eligible to play, under the NCAA guidelines, then I don't think that his character, or lack thereof, should play a major part. If you found out that the kid was running a crack house on campus, or had stabbed two people to death, then I think that is one story. But unfounded allegations of a kid being involved in a pay-for-play scheme is another one, entirely.
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you proved my point exactly if you have children and there role model is cam newton. and you also have a good moral compass can you look your child in the eye and say. listen this is what went down, he won it and hell got away with it. heisman should be the definition of "role model" greatest and most outstanding player in the game. instead its hell as long as they put up good stats we can turn a blind eye. its not just college football thats integrity is in question its todays society. and by turning a blind eye your too to blame my friend. the fact is if theres doubt he shouldnt have won. saying goes where theres smoke theres fire. well its a big bag a crap and it stinks. but hey it sure is exciting isnt it?

in saying that i think they should change it. so that kids see that there not bigger then the game. that making the "right" choice in life is important. think jamarcus russell. cam will be the next bigger then life guy to be caught drinking the "syrup" did you watch the ceremony? its cool to tweet while on t.v. and also mentioning his mothers womb . this kid is a moron. but hey you want your kids to admire him good luck with that.

and as for the former heisman winners that messed up like O.J. he gotta away with double murder but stilled showed hes a scum bag so the heisman committee should separate themselves from people like that.
 
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This is the opening statement for the Heisman Trophy Mission Statement.

The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.
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I will be the first to admit that Cam was probably the best player in the country this year, but if anyone has had any type of integrity issues they should be ineligible. Not only is Cam's name coming up because of the pay for play stuff but it was rumored that he would be kicked out of Florida for buying stolen property and cheating on exams. Just my 25cents

But let me say this again so people don't think I am hating, he is a great athlete and probably one of the best in the nation. He will easily succeed in the NFL. But some people just shouldn't be awarded with the highest award under some circumstances.
 
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bigeasy47 said:
you proved my point exactly if you have children and there role model is cam newton. and you also have a good moral compass can you look your child in the eye and say. listen this is what went down, he won it and hell got away with it. heisman should be the definition of "role model" greatest and most outstanding player in the game. instead its hell as long as they put up good stats we can turn a blind eye. its not just college football thats integrity is in question its todays society. and by turning a blind eye your too to blame my friend. the fact is if theres doubt he shouldnt have won. saying goes where theres smoke theres fire. well its a big bag a crap and it stinks. but hey it sure is exciting isnt it?

in saying that i think they should change it. so that kids see that there not bigger then the game. that making the "right" choice in life is important. think jamarcus russell. cam will be the next bigger then life guy to be caught drinking the "syrup" did you watch the ceremony? its cool to tweet while on t.v. and also mentioning his mothers womb . this kid is a moron. but hey you want your kids to admire him good luck with that.

and as for the former heisman winners that messed up like O.J. he gotta away with double murder but stilled showed hes a scum bag so the heisman committee should separate themselves from people like that.
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If you have kids (I don't), then it is YOUR responsibility to teach them right from wrong; not ESPN's, not the NCAA's, and certainly not the Downtown Athletic Club's. As it stands, you are making a tremendous leap, that Cam Newton is guilty. There was a TON of smoke around the Duke Lacrosse players, too. All there is, at this moment, is a bunch of hearsay. I'm not turning a blind eye, I'm waiting to hear all of the facts before I make a judgement.
 
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If you have kids (I don't), then it is YOUR responsibility to teach them right from wrong; not ESPN's, not the NCAA's, and certainly not the Downtown Athletic Club's. As it stands, you are making a tremendous leap, that Cam Newton is guilty. There was a TON of smoke around the Duke Lacrosse players, too. All there is, at this moment, is a bunch of hearsay. I'm not turning a blind eye, I'm waiting to hear all of the facts before I make a judgement.
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I think the fact that Dad is not allowed to be anywhere near an NCAA event is a little more than hearsay. He will be declared ineligible shortly after the NC. The NCAA needs to get their money before they bring down the hammer.
 
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Shamrocks and Shenanigans said:
I think the fact that Dad is not allowed to be anywhere near an NCAA event is a little more than hearsay. He will be declared ineligible shortly after the NC. The NCAA needs to get their money before they bring down the hammer.
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The hearsay is not whether or not his father did anything wrong, but whether or not Cam Newton knew anything about it and was, therefore, culpable.
 
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kmoose i highly recommend you dont reproduce then. especially if you cant make judgement for yourself. im talking about role models and moral standards thats all. it seems you lack some. so your saying as a child (assuming your not now) that you never had a role model? before you get all offensive and quote someone on here and pick a bone with them. put yourself in the person shoes and see there ideas before responding.
 
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This thing smells but who am I to throw stones, heck I dont know if there is a leg to stand on when saying they outright cheated. I have a friend who says nothing will ever be proved so live with another player/school playing by a different set of rules. I'l tell you this-- I hope Oregon beats their @$#. I dont like having a set of rules interpreted in favor of certain conferences or schools only to have other places trying to do it right and made sport of. The whole fiasco is a joke.
 
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bigeasy47 said:
kmoose i highly recommend you dont reproduce then. especially if you cant make judgement for yourself. im talking about role models and moral standards thats all. it seems you lack some. so your saying as a child (assuming your not now) that you never had a role model? before you get all offensive and quote someone on here and pick a bone with them. put yourself in the person shoes and see there ideas before responding.
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I'm not sure why you seem to be taking this personally. I quoted the idea that I didn't agree with. The person had nothing to do with it. I apologize if I offended your delicate sensibilities. Don't worry, though, your kids will be fine. They say it skips a generation.
 
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Shamrocks and Shenanigans said:
Do you really believe that Cam didn't know anything was going on?
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I believe that it's absolutely possible. If the dad is crooked enough to try to pimp his own son, why would be so hard to believe that he would be greedy enough to hide it from the kid so that he could keep all of the money for himself?

But, really, it doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is what the NCAA can prove.
 
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