Michigan and Alabama close to scheduling neutral game in 2012

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Too lazy to provide a link, but it's the general buzz on the Internet.

Michigan would get blown out, obviously, but it's good to see two teams meeting up of this caliber.
 

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Just saw this somewhere too. Think it was at the bottom of some article. Les Miles will be coaching Michigan then, so he should be familar with Bama.
 

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Just saw this somewhere too. Think it was at the bottom of some article. Les Miles will be coaching Michigan then, so he should be familar with Bama.

I think it will be Harbaugh, but Jim will be excited about this series.
 

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Yah, jim was high on my wishlist for the ND job, about 5 with kelly at 3 ( 2 and 1 were Stoops and Urban) i think he or Les could turn UM around, not that we want THAT anytime soon. :)
 

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Yah, jim was high on my wishlist for the ND job, about 5 with kelly at 3 ( 2 and 1 were Stoops and Urban) i think he or Les could turn UM around, not that we want THAT anytime soon. :)

Dude les miles is OVERRATED. And urban wasn't near the top for me.
 

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Michigan vs. Alabama 2012 at Cowboy Stadium?? | mgoblog

Michigan vs. Alabama 2012 at Cowboy Stadium??
Posted on: August 5th, 2010 at 8:12 PM Jedelman11

OfflineMichigan vs. Alabama 2012 at Cowboy Stadium?? Its behind a paywall and apparently just a rumor, but there is a report on Scout that Michigan will be openning its 2012 season against Alabama in Dallas Texas.

(Link for those with memberships): http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=14&f=1016&t=6187317

Hopefully by then its will be defending national champions Michigan laying the beat down on a strong Crimson Tide squad...
 

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That post led to this writeup on MGoblog

Michigan-Alabama In Dallas In 2012 | mgoblog

You probably dismissed the idea of Michigan playing a huge nonconference game against Alabama in two years in Jerryworld as crackpot rumor-mongering of the sort the internet specializes in. Michigan's on the road against ND, leaving a maximum of six home games, it's transparently silly to play a college football game thousands of miles from either college, and Michigan hasn't played a neutral-site OOC game basically ever. It seemed instantly implausible.

But apparently it is happening. The contract is being signed Monday. Which is tomorrow.

The following details are unconfirmed but of interest since they come from an established source:

Game is happening because a desperate Jerry Jones "overpaid."
Michigan will be the nominal home team (important mostly for TV rights) and receive more money.
There's no additional game scheduled and there may not be.
Jones might be well-positioned to provide some advice on HD scoreboards.
This comes with a set of crazy conflicting emotions. Hurray awesome nonconference game, boo that it's in fricking Dallas in a corporate death star of an NFL stadium and not a home-and-home in Ann Arbor and Tuscaloosa. I guess that's what it takes for a lot of actual nonconference games to get done these days, but awesomeness of trip to Dallas to see M play 'Bama <<<<<< awesomeness of M-Bama home-and-home. On the other hand, awesomeness of M-Bama Dallas >>>>>>> awesomeness of M-BGSU anywhere.

[Note on sourcing: in this case I am going with one source, but he is a very established one.]

Some interesting followup comments from fans complaining a) it's not a home game (or home and home) b) it's not an Out of Conference cupcake like Appy St c) Dallas is soooo far away from AA.
 

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hmm interesting, much like ND vs Miami it will be interesting to see where these two schools stand in 2 years
 

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Dude les miles is OVERRATED. And urban wasn't near the top for me.

Idk he won an NC and would do better in an easier conference like the Big (number pending) and as for urban, the draw is his name, next to the ND name, would make ND recruiting the thing it used to be, guys hoping they can play well enough to go to ND. Idk if he will do better than kelly, maybe in 5 years ESPN can do a stupid What If about it
 

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hmm interesting, much like ND vs Miami it will be interesting to see where these two schools stand in 2 years

ND and Miami played 23 times in the 35 years between 1955 -1990. ND leads 15-7-1.

Michigan and Bama have NEVER faced each other in a regular season game. It violates both their philosophies of scheduling easy wins.

They've only met in 3 bowls, '88 Hall of Fame, '97 Outback, and '00 Orange. Michigan won in '88 and '00.
 

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sorry i mean as in they are two programs on different paths, ND has a new coach, and Miami is aiming for an ACC title, Bama is coming off an NC, while UM is about to fire rich rod, which is why i said it will be interesting to see how each program is doing in 2012, ND could be coming off an NC, UM may have a new coach, Miami could be a power. needless to say 2012 will be an interesting year for CFB
 

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Here's a look at a draft of their 2012 Schedule with a couple of Games TBA.

Bama would be first up on 9/1 (IF added)

Cupcake One on 9/8

Cupcake Two on 9/15

ND in South Bend on 9/22

Cupcake Three on 9/29

Followed by 8 weeks of Big 10 foes, WIS, IU, MSU, IOW, MIN, ILL, NU, and OSU

Doesn't appear to be an off week in the schedule.


http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/big-ten/2012-michigan-wolverines-football-schedule.php

Michigan cannot survive that schedule without four or five losses.

They will have a new coach and will be in rebuilding mode because the likely candidates are pro-style coaches. Alabama will slaughter them, Wisconsin and Iowa will beat them, and they'll get murdered by Nebraska and Ohio State, as usual. Not to mention a smackdown in South Bend by Dayne and the Irish.

Idk he won an NC and would do better in an easier conference like the Big (number pending) and as for urban, the draw is his name, next to the ND name, would make ND recruiting the thing it used to be, guys hoping they can play well enough to go to ND. Idk if he will do better than kelly, maybe in 5 years ESPN can do a stupid What If about it

That LSU team lost two games and because 2007 was the Chinese Year of the Upset (Ohio State was also a one-loss team), they made it into the title game against an overrated Ohio State team. Since then his teams have sucked. He can't find a quarterback and has proven to be one of the worst in-game coaches in the nation.

Urban at Notre Dame? I'll take Kelly's class over his garbage.
 

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on a side note as bad as 07 was for ND, it was fun to watch all the other big boys get taken down, and yes i would prefer Kelly, im just saying what Urban would do at a school like ND
 

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on a side note as bad as 07 was for ND, it was fun to watch all the other big boys get taken down, and yes i would prefer Kelly, im just saying what Urban would do at a school like ND

You just said urban was your number 1. He didn't get the name urban liar for no reason
 

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going into the hiring he was my #1 after summer camp, and urban having all of those stress attacks, i would go with kelly
 

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going into the hiring he was my #1 after summer camp, and urban having all of those stress attacks, i would go with kelly

Ok.... But the fact you had urban #1 says enough
 

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indeed, i wanted him, honestly if he came i would be happy, im not ashamed to say it, i wanted to see him win championships, he could recruit anyone, just like Holtz could, ND wouldnt let him recruit who he wanted, so he left. Now that i think they would probably have done the same thing to urban after a few years, urban would have brought wins, which everyone wanted, but i admit he would have brought trouble, thats why if BK can win at ND without the kind of trouble other schools have gotten in, ill be the first to shake his hand and congratulate him.
 

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indeed, i wanted him, honestly if he came i would be happy, im not ashamed to say it, i wanted to see him win championships, he could recruit anyone, just like Holtz could, ND wouldnt let him recruit who he wanted, so he left. Now that i think they would probably have done the same thing to urban after a few years, urban would have brought wins, which everyone wanted, but i admit he would have brought trouble, thats why if BK can win at ND without the kind of trouble other schools have gotten in, ill be the first to shake his hand and congratulate him.

Ok. So your willing to risk integrity as longs as Notre Dame wins? Sweet. Sacrafice one of the things that makes Notre Dame different then most other schools. And you said that he woulda left cause he wouldn't be able to recruit who he "wanted". So if he can't recruit good kids to notre dame why would we want him?
 

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Michigan, by the way, is notorious (at least in my biased mind) for having an incredibly weak OOC schedule.

Their last decade: they played Bowling Green, Rice, Miami of Ohio (3), Western Michigan (3), Washington (2, they were ranked both times which warrants consideration), Utah (13-0 in 2008), Central Michigan (2), Houston, Oregon (2), UCLA, San Diego State, Northern Illinois, Eastern Michigan (3), Vanderbilt, Ball State, Appalachian State (loss), Toledo (loss), and Delaware State.

Out of those teams, only Washington, UCLA, Oregon and Utah (who did not rise to prominence until 2003 under Urban Meyer) have any reputation at all. Out of the other schools, eight of them are MAC schools, and out of those schools, all but two of them were played multiple times. Vanderbilt is annually the worst school in the SEC. Rice and Houston play in Conference USA, one of the worst conferences in the country. And San Diego State plays in the Mountain West. Two of the schools (Appalachian State and Delaware State) are Division II programs, one of them (DSU) was 2-4 when they played Michigan in mid-OCTOBER.

Michigan has played Notre Dame every year from 2002-2009, another reputable opponent. However, Notre Dame has had the consistency and record of a mid-major in that time period. 10-3 (on a team that should have been much worse), 5-7, 6-7, 9-3, 10-3, 3-9, 7-6, and 6-6.

This year, Michigan has Connecticut (usually a lower-tier program in the Big East, easily the weakest of the BCS conferences), Notre Dame, Bowling Green, and Massachusetts.

It's good to see them finally scheduling somebody with an actual reputation if this deal goes through.
 

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Ok. So your willing to risk integrity as longs as Notre Dame wins? Sweet. Sacrafice one of the things that makes Notre Dame different then most other schools. And you said that he woulda left cause he wouldn't be able to recruit who he "wanted". So if he can't recruit good kids to notre dame why would we want him?

Ok im to tired to argue, you win, everything i say is incorrect, i have orientation tomorrow. Bottom line, Urban meyer will never coach at ND, the flyers will win a stanley cup, the Yankees will repeat, UNC will make the tourney, and the Titans, well theyre not to bad either, good night, go irish.
 

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Ok im to tired to argue, you win, everything i say is incorrect, i have orientation tomorrow. Bottom line, Urban meyer will never coach at ND, the flyers will win a stanley cup, the Yankees will repeat, UNC will make the tourney, and the Titans, well theyre not to bad either, good night, go irish.

Whas dis mean?
 

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it means i cant stay up till 2 am arguing about something that didnt happen, goodnight shaq, sorry to take up ur thread space
 

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Yea I kinda started it. My major dislikeage of Urban Liar came out... Oh and it's about time Michigan scheduled someone
 

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Hopefully bama hangs at least 50 on them

I would much rather see Michigan win personally. Prolly has to do with the fact that Alabama has been winning, so I hate them more at the moment.
 
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Good match up for college football !!!!!!! Although I hate michigan but its good for the fans.
Q: What do Michigan and pot have in common?

A: They both get smoked in bowls!
 

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Good match up for college football !!!!!!! ...


It probably is. But I have a dilemna rooting for either of those two teams. I rather see a tornado take out the power to the Stadium while they were tied in OT. Refs would have to declare a tie due to the elements.

I usually root for ND's opponents as it build our strength of schedule. It does nothing for us beating a bunch of 0-12 teams. More importantly we battle Michigan for the All Time Winning Div 1 Team. In 2010 ND can retake the lead that Willingham gave away years ago. So I make an exception for Michigan they can go 0-12.

As for Bama if they beat Michigan they will immediately declare themselves the winners of two more NCs. It's just how they do things.

I have a friend who is a Bama booster. He played basketball for The Tide. He paid about a grand for a Danny Moore print of "The Sack" where Cornelius Bennett nearly dismembered Steve Beuerlein in '86. He has a hugh protrait of Bear Bryant over his fireplace. But whenever I'm over at his place The Bear comes down and Bennett and The Sack goes up in his place to goad me. He let me know he spent the Grand on "The Sack" just to rile me. "What do you think about that?", he asked. I replied politely, "I though you took down Bear Bryant because you were embarassed because he never beat ND." I then added, "You do know ND was only favored once in all those 6 games. Five times you guys managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The one time you did win you chased the coach out of town." I was never asked back for dinner again.

A couple of years ago when Bama AD Mal Moore asked ND to be let out of a contract for a home and home series because of a loss of scholarships. I had the newspaper headline, "Bama asks to back out of ND series" blown up to banner size the length of his fireplace and sent it to him. I guess his thank you card got lost in the mail.
 
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