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My grandfather got me a movie series on college football 10-vhs tapes long. On the "Dynasties" segment, where ND was featured of course, Joe Theisman said something along the lines of beating ND at home was like "beating the Yankees." This clearly has not been the case lately. Can Kelly bring that toughness back? Is it possible for teams to once again dread playing the Irish in South Bend? I sure think so. Can't wait for Purdue Irish Nation!
 
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We have to arouse the fans of the stadium to waken the echoes of yore. Home field advantage is only as strong as the fans make it.
 

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A lot of it has to do with the crowd and atmosphere... which in my limited experience has been a snooze. The student section isn't without hope but too far beyond that, the only yelling going on is directed toward asking people to sit down in their seats.
 
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A lot of it has to do with the crowd and atmosphere... which in my limited experience has been a snooze. The student section isn't without hope but too far beyond that, the only yelling going on is directed toward asking people to sit down in their seats.

LMAO!

That won't be happening for me and my buddy come Michigan week. Fans around us will be very disappointed in our reply should this happen. I can guarantee that. If they can't take the fun and passion fans exude, then stay home and flip on the boob tube.
 

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Was anyone there in '88 when we beat Miami? I need some positive feedback here.

I was there and that stadium was the loudest I have EVER heard. And that was when we only had 59,075 seats. Although I take that back. The ND/Usc game "the bush push" was extremely loud. Matter of fact it was so loud I could'nt even hear myself screaming. BUT, that ND/Miami game was intensly loud for only 60,000 fans.
 

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I want to the Nevada game last year and I was underwhelmed...

Most of the people (around me anyway) seemed like they were watching the Master's or something. After every TD they would let out a little golf clap.

The student section seemed fine, but I was on the eastern side on the 50 yard line, so it was hard to tell.
 

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I want to the Nevada game last year and I was underwhelmed...

Most of the people (around me anyway) seemed like they were watching the Master's or something. After every TD they would let out a little golf clap.

The student section seemed fine, but I was on the eastern side on the 50 yard line, so it was hard to tell.

Hard to cheer when you expect your team to lose. And they prove it by losing. Last year ND lost lost lost lost lost lost lost. Year before, they lost lost lost lost lost lost. Year before they lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost lost.
 
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A lot of it has to do with the crowd and atmosphere... which in my limited experience has been a snooze. The student section isn't without hope but too far beyond that, the only yelling going on is directed toward asking people to sit down in their seats.

EXACTLY! It upsets me so much every year. I travel from south Fla every year to see at least 1 game, every year it gets quieter and quieter. I was a the Pitt game 2 years ago and we were in our 3rd overtime and people are just sitting there when were on defense. STAND UP! MAKE SOME NOISE! then the sprinklers came on lol.
 

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Yeah the crowd is certainly not as loud as it could be. The student section gets loud but only at certain times and not the whole game. We need to raise the level to where it was back in the day.

Remember 1988 michigan game. Notre Dame was actually penalized because the crowd was too loud! The defense on the field was actually trying to quiet down the crowd! cuz it was so loud:

YouTube - Crowd Noise disrupts 1988 ND-Michigan game

Ridiculous
 

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Yeah, when I was at the USC game on third downs nobody was standing up and screaming at the top of their lungs. People next to me were sitting down and telling me to sit down as well. Obviously they dont give a shit about their team. I was in the front row where you would think the sound would be louder, but it was quiet as could be. Barkley should've had no problem with the crowd for that game.
 

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Yeah the crowd is certainly not as loud as it could be. The student section gets loud but only at certain times and not the whole game. We need to raise the level to where it was back in the day.

Remember 1988 michigan game. Notre Dame was actually penalized because the crowd was too loud! The defense on the field was actually trying to quiet down the crowd! cuz it was so loud:

YouTube - Crowd Noise disrupts 1988 ND-Michigan game

Ridiculous

That's AWESOME! I've never seen that one before. I would kill to see that kind of intensity from the crowd these days. And that happened with 20,000 less people!
 

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Until ND has a student body that numbers in the 40 to 50 thousand range, with 95% attendance. Not every student attends every game, believe it or not – I know I didn't. If every student at ND and Saint Mary's, undergraduate and graduate, attended you'd only have in the neighborhood of 12,000 seats filled. Even if they each brought two rabid parents, friends or siblings, you're still talking only 36,000.

The majority of tickets are sold to alumni and local residents. It would be nice if everyone of them were asked to sign a pledge that they would stand the bulk of the time and scream all of the time as a condition for forking over money to be allowed a ticket. Not every alum has the stamina or the vocal chords necessary. Not all the locals are vocal. And the university isn't about to "dis" all those old fart alums who donate so generously. They need to keep the seats occupied and the concession stands hopping.

It's a tough row to hoe to generate the decibel level you would like game-in and game- out. Especially if ND is pounding the shit out of the opponent ... Nevada, anyone? Or getting their asses handed to them by the undeserving likes of Syracuse.

The last game I attended was the 1999 (I think) USC game. Neither had a good team. I was in the south end zone wedged between two local gentlemen who weighed about 350+ each. And I'm not talking compact muscle mass. I initially sat in the wrong row because their respective left and right butt cheeks had sought each other out and covered the seat number painted on the bench in the row I was assigned. There was no guarantee that I'd have space for my skinny butt to sit again after standing up. Fortunately, one of them left when the blue gray skies turned black and it started to rain just before the half. The game sucked. It seemed like a "Who Wants To Be The Biggest Loser"competition. We eked out a 25-24 victory at the end due in equal parts to the sloppiness of the field and SC's defensive play.

I would have preferred sitting in or near the student section, but I'm pretty sure that my voice and knee joints would have been shot before the end of the first half.
 

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Dshans hits the bulls-eye with his post. When I was a collegian way back when, I could generate impossibly long and loud sounds for hours, and in a continuous standing position if necessary. The mere thought of that makes me want to look for my recliner nowadays. We maniacs did the same thing, even insaner and louder, at the old pep rallies, where no coach nor player could complete even a sentence without being drowned out by roof-raising bellowing having little to do with what was said. [I must admit though that Buoniconti's old running mate at guard, Norb Roy, who looked like he could play the lead in a Steven King movie without make-up, once hung an obscenely mammoth arm over the podium and threatened to destroy the whole crowd of us if we didn't shut up till he was finished---pins were heard dropping all over the old "barn" in which we held those rallies]. ---but I digress...Anyway, Dshans points out that NDs small student body section gives us an impossible-to-overcome decibel deficit during the average game. Old Farts like myself may be wanting to regain a semblance of our noisy youth, but the urge disappears quickly with asthma or the second beer. Maybe we need to engage the ND physics department to produce voice-enhancers and hand them out [surreptitiously of course] to anyone older than thirty five. Seriously, youngsters, the old Dopamine and Nor-Adrenaline levels ain't what they used to be. Maybe we should institute an age cut-off for ticket sales?
 
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OMM, crowd noise really makes such a difference in the ballgame, though. A loud atmosphere really throws off audibles and snap count. It really makes sense to desire it, even if the elderly don't enjoy the static interferrence with their miracle ears...
 

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Johnny: I'm more than all-for the olde "blow their ears out so they mess up the snap count" advantage [despite the fact that my brothers were all long-suffering linemen when it came to that]. All I [and I think Dshans] were saying is that we oldsters can't help generate the decibels any more. I'm quite happy to listen to everyone else blare away --- just can't participate effectively myself. I'd be happy to employ technological-assistance to increase my share of the decibels but I'm sure that's illegal.
 

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I always come back from a game hoarse. But I have to say that the USC game last year in my sections was the loudest I've heard in quite a few years.

We'll be at the Michigan game to disrupt the count this year.
 

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Was anyone there in '88 when we beat Miami? I need some positive feedback here.

I was on campus with my Dad, but unfortunately couldn't find tickets. So I watched the game in the student center. I still remember sprinting to the stadium as the clock ran out to join in on the celebration.

It was fan-tastic! I remember it like yesterday; everyone went nuts... during the game you could hear the fans roaring in the stadium from the student center just as if the two buildings were next to each other.

I think Kelly can bring that kind of atmosphere back to the 'Bend.
 

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Personally, I can deal with the relative lack of noise during home games...

But if I ever see the debacle of the 2000 Nebraska game again (hint: more Red than Blue/Gold/Green in the stands); I'll go ballistic.

Embarrassing is a kind way to put it.
 

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When I was a collegian way back when, I could generate impossibly long and loud sounds for hours, and in a continuous standing position if necessary. We maniacs did the same thing, even insaner and louder, at the old pep rallies ... [in] the old "barn"... Maybe we need to engage the ND physics department to produce voice-enhancers and hand them out [surreptitiously of course] to anyone older than thirty five.

Is the "old barn" you refer to the old (pre ACC & Stepan Center) field house? I don't recall any pep rallies there "in my day," but that's not to say that there weren't any ... there are a few, um, gaps in my recollections from those years. I'd be hoarse after the pep rally from screaming but ready, willing and able to repeat the process at the game the next day. Not anymore. These days if I attend a loud party (pretty much any get together involving my talkative Irish family) it gets painful to talk, much less shout, after an hour or so. I tend to emit bizarre squeaks, squawks and croaks.

The spirit is willing but the body is weak. Damn it all!
 

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Blaming the lack of noise on the lack of winning is a cop out.

I've gone to Bills games and trust me they've been much worse than ND lately...and you can't hear a thing for most of the game.

Last year's Navy game was a horrible experience for me. So many people around me just playing with their phones, not really paying attention, never standing up. Then everyone just shuffled out like nothing bad had happened.

That kind of crap doesn't happen at South Carolina, Texas A&M and other average to decent teams like ND.
 

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I think an energetic crowd can play a key role in a game, especially if the home team is losing. I've seen games before(not just ND) where it had seemed the team had given up or had no motivation to keep trying. Then a few fans start cheering and then more and more, before you know it the place gets loud. Once you get the players a little pumped from feeding off the energy of the crowd it only takes 1 big play to get things going again. Then it's a whole new ball game. I've seen it happen many times where the home crowd literally wills the team to try harder.
 

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To Dshans, yeh, I think that we called it the field house, but my brain has rotted significantly more than yours so I could be wrong even at that. The thing had a dirt floor and a small, very high balcony where the coaches and players came out. All pep rallies were in that thing. Guys tried to create people pyramids three tiers high to show off, miraculously never requiring hospitalization when they crumbled. We used to look forward to this mania almost as much as the game the next day. Because ND operated like a prison compound back then [everyone in the dorms by 9pm and lights out at 10pm] our revved up enthusiasm never spilled over into boyish mis-behavior and police accommodations downtown. [One time we did all surround a friendly police cruiser and slowly pick it up off the ground while other ne'er-do-wells took its tires off though---there was safety in numbers on that one].
 

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Yeah the crowd is certainly not as loud as it could be. The student section gets loud but only at certain times and not the whole game. We need to raise the level to where it was back in the day.

Remember 1988 michigan game. Notre Dame was actually penalized because the crowd was too loud! The defense on the field was actually trying to quiet down the crowd! cuz it was so loud:

YouTube - Crowd Noise disrupts 1988 ND-Michigan game

Ridiculous

Wow. I don't remember that rule. How dumb is that? I wish ND stadium was that loud still. I think we could get back to that if the team resembles the '88 team.
 

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The Stadium was much louder when it was 59,000. I am not really sure why but I do have a couple guesses. Notre Dame games used to be a Very difficult ticket (and still is somewhat) and the 59000 were ravenous. I was at 3 games in 1993 when I was 14 and the FSU game was the loudest I had ever heard that place. I know it is tough to compare that game to any game because of its magnitude but it was impressive. I feel now, Notre Dame games are like a tourist event, you go to a game, and you have people there like they are site seeing, taking it all in. I think this should all be done during P breaks while tailgating. Get there early, walk around the campus, take it in.....but when the game starts.... stand up and make it difficult for the other team. My family has had season tickets at ND for multiple generations and when I am asked to sit down by a sight seer or a fossil, I try as much as I can to comply...but this is football, and it is ok to get excited so that doesn't last long.
 

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Personally, I can deal with the relative lack of noise during home games...

But if I ever see the debacle of the 2000 Nebraska game again (hint: more Red than Blue/Gold/Green in the stands); I'll go ballistic.

Embarrassing is a kind way to put it.


That is one of the worst sights I've EVER seen. I live in Nebraska and have to listen to all the damn Husker fans talk about how they played a home game in South Bend..... It was an embarrassment of EPIC proportions.
 
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