Tim Prister Rips Golden Tate

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From an article posted on Irish Illustrated the other day:

"It is amazing to me in this day and age of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that Tate hasn’t been flagged for his behavior in recent weeks. It took just two plays before Tate was in the face of Washington State freshman cornerback Terrance Hayward. Rare is the reception now that Tate doesn’t have something derogatory to say to the opposition. There was even one point in the game when Big East back judge Gary Dancewicz stopped Tate as he was leaving the field, presumably to address his taunting of the opponent.

That’s a player firing himself up to play against the opposition, which is a good frame of mind to have. It’s a war out there and a player has to be in the attack mode. But there’s a fine line between being competitive and disrespectful, and Tate not only has crossed the line, but has done so without repercussions from the coaching staff.

What’s truly disappointing, however, is the way Tate treated his teammates during the Washington State game. In particular, quarterback Dayne Crist.

Crist, you will recall, didn’t play in the Washington, USC and Boston College games. So it had been more than a month since Crist had thrown a pass in live competition. Tate, however, reacted harshly to the two passes by Crist that bounced at his feet. His body language basically told Crist that he couldn’t believe how lousy his throws were.

After his miraculous touchdown catch among three Washington State defenders before the end of the first half, Tate barely acknowledged congratulations from his teammates. He simply brushed through each pat on the back and repeatedly pointed to himself.

Asked a few weeks ago if he was concerned about Tate’s mouthing on the field, Weis turned it into a joke about being more concerned about which marching band Tate jumped into. If the head coach condones it, there’s no stopping a 21-year-old kid’s “I’m the king of the world” attitude.

Someone—Weis, receiver coach Rob Ianello, another coach on the staff, Jimmy Clausen, another receiver, a parent, an athletic administrator, a former player, anyone!—needs to tell Tate for Tate’s sake, the team’s sake and for the sake of the way Notre Dame should be represented that he has lost all semblance of appropriate behavior toward the opposition and, most especially, his teammates. He is in need of an attitude adjustment.

Playing with confidence and bravado is one thing; playing the game with disrespect for everyone around you crosses the line of behavior of a Notre Dame football player."

Pretty harsh.
 

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The Crist thing did bother me a little bit. Tate had some drops against Michigan and MSU, but you didn't see anyone getting down on him for it. Besides that, I like his cocky attitude and it seems to work for him. I think Weis knows that Golden on the field is a lot different than Golden off the field so he doesn't make a big deal of the things that Golden might do or say during the game.
 

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Funny, he did not write an article about Spikes or the USC player giving the bird. If you don't want Golden to celebrate, just stop him from scoring. Oh wait, u can't.
 

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Prister has the credentials to write that article. He's covered ND sports as a journalist for almost 30 years but more significantly he's an alumnus and a member of the Monogram Club.

This is Notre Dame not Miami.
 

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This is Notre Dame not Miami.

Agree, but personally as long as he sticks to just talking a little "smack" or the hands on the hip thing after a big play then I'm fine with it. Just my opinion but I think ND has been labeled as a "soft" team for long enough where I don't mind seeing things like this. And that corner he was talking "smack" to was only 17 I believe so I'm sure that was mentioned during the week when reviewing film. Just a way to rattle a frosh. I think he is toeing the line, but hasn't crossed it yet, so until then I'll be fine with it.
 

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This article is spot on and it's not the first time this issue has been talked about this season. Tate is an amazing talent, but I, too, have been surprised that he hasn't been flagged this season. It's only a matter of time. More importantly, when it does happen it will cost the team big. ND can't afford to give back big time plays this season, especially against teams like Pitt. Tate has every right to celebrate, but baiting the oppostion to grab the ball out of your hand before you cross the goal line or diving into the their band is just BS. He needs to start thinking about what those actions could do to this team.

Tate, you're an amazing talent and you're going to make a great NFL player soon (hopefully a bit later than sooner!). The great players, however, don't need to bait the opposition on every big play. Celebrate with your team....leave your opponent in the dust!
 

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Tate, however, reacted harshly to the two passes by Crist that bounced at his feet. His body language basically told Crist that he couldn’t believe how lousy his throws were.

I also noticed that.....He's just used to how accurate Jimmy is....
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Swagger has been missing from this program for a long time. Golden Tate had brought it bad to some degree. You don't see him out there with a sharpie signing footballs after touchdowns, what you see is an extremely talented football player celebratng in a passive agressive manner that is well deserved. If he happens to get a flag so be it. I would rather the team have some confidence and mojo then playing how we have in recent years. Not eveyone is going to be a Barry Sanders when it comes to celebrations and I think thats a good thing.
 

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I think he is blowing the reaction to the catch at the end of the first half out of proportion. He didnt blow off his teammates. He could have supported Dayne a little better. And people need to get off of him for the Michigan State band thing. He is running FULL SPEED towards the back of the endzone. If he didnt jump into the band, he would have plowed right into the tuba player.

Much ado about nothing....
 

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Appropriate and overdue.



It's neither.

Get a grip people, I see on this board all the time how people want the Irish to get that killer instinct that we can lack.

Well guess what? Killer instinct and cocky tend to go hand in hand.

If GT was pissed at Dayne for throwing at his feet so what?? That's what the best athletes on the field act like. Michael Jordan did the same thing when his mates underperformed.

I love him diving into the bands and talking shit, I for one think we need a little more of it.
 

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Wow....short term memory is crazy.

Anyone remember Jeff Samardjiza? In my opinion he was worse, yet I never remember anyone complaining about him?
 

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He's covered ND sports as a journalist for almost 30 years

Probably why he shouldn't be. This isn't the football your father watched. Same can be said for just about every sport. Blame Sports Center but he needs to take his blood pressure meds & head back outside to yell at the neighborhood kids for cutting through his yard.

I for one enjoy Tates intensity & determination & that's exactly what I see it as. The only thing I've seen from him I disliked was the drum smack in the SC game.
 

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I'm not going to lie. I find myself cringing a lot at the stuff Tate does after most plays. My eyes go straight to the top of the screen looking for the "Flag" thing to pop up.

Personally I don't have a problem with anything he does. But some ref someday will have a problem with it. I just don't think its a good idea to put the team at risk. Don't give the refs anything to work with.
 

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Probably why he shouldn't be. This isn't the football your father watched. Same can be said for just about every sport. Blame Sports Center but he needs to take his blood pressure meds & head back outside to yell at the neighborhood kids for cutting through his yard.

I for one enjoy Tates intensity & determination & that's exactly what I see it as. The only thing I've seen from him I disliked was the drum smack in the SC game.
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Wow....short term memory is crazy.

Anyone remember Jeff Samardjiza? In my opinion he was worse, yet I never remember anyone complaining about him?

Jeff was cocky and it showed on the field, but his antics were not worse than Golden's. In my opinion, they're tied in terms of on-the-field arrogance.

Both frequently trash talked unneccesarily, sometimes when it's completely unwarranted.

The Shark killed our first drive of the game in the Sugar Bowl. After catching a first down pass, Jeff turned to an LSU defender and called him a "pussy", right in front of the ref. The result? Fifteen yards, a repeat third down, and a dead Irish drive. I fear the day Golden does the same.

Both players often use over the top displays of emotion to draw attention to themselves. Golden Tate frequently does something flamboyant (the swan dive, flexing and pointing to his bicep against USC, etc.). The Shark was much the same (taunting a Stanford player as he raced into the endzone in 2005, calling attention upon himself with his hands and arms, etc.).

I honestly don't know what to think of Golden. He seems like a pretty nice guy in his interviews, even shy at times. However, once he hits the field he turns into a cocky douchebag. He's a mystery.
 

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Wow....short term memory is crazy.

Anyone remember Jeff Samardjiza? In my opinion he was worse, yet I never remember anyone complaining about him?

Jeff was really bad, especially late in his career. I did love the way he waved his hand at defenders signaling "come get me". I found that funny, particularly from a white boy. As for GT, it'll be interesting to see how he reacts with Floyd back in the lineup and potentially scoring TD's again.
 

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yawn. give me a non-conformist like Chad Johnson (His mamma call him Clay, imma call him Clay) or Tate any day.
 

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I would rather have the smack talking, swagger rather than the lifeless teams that have been on the field of Notre Dame stadium for far too long. keep making plays Golden!!
 
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I'll take an asshole on the field who is a Heisman contender over a choirboy who can't catch a pass. Calm down, people. I don't care what he does on the field as long as it doesn't result in a penalty. He hasn't gotten an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, so everything he has done has been perfectly fine with me. It's football for God's sake.
 

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I love Golden. I like his swag. He has a right to celebrate when he makes a big play, and a lot of the things he does are very funny.

I agree he does go a bit overboard sometimes though. I'm not a big fan of taunting period whether it be Golden, Samardjiza, or the guy from USC who stood over Golden and taunted him the first time the clock hit 0:00. Golden embarrasses opponents enough just by the plays he makes, there is no need for him to get in their face about it.

It's a fine line between having swagger/confidence and going too far and acting like a little punk and getting penalties. Golden is flirting with that line.
 

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I cant believe it, the kid is practically the heart and soul of this team, and they still find a way to knock him? i dont care if this prister cat is the pope, give me a break.

Yea he's pissed that the ball bounced, he wanted to make a play, you dont think dayne was pissed about those passes?

It Can hurt a team, but it hasnt yet and i think if it did charlie would get on him about it.

I say do what you do Golden, same goes for Jimmy!

GO IRISH!!
 

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I do not have a problem with Tate at all. He is not over the top, he talks smack and has swagger. I hera that he is not representing NotreDame in an appropriate manner but i say that BS. He is a competitor and everyone who plays at that level believes he is the best. CB's hold him and he still makes plays, so he lets them know it. Samrdzija did alot of the same stuff. The only time i thought they might flag him was for the band dive but it seems like some of the older fans are just overreacting. If i see him celebrating and we are getting blown out ill be the first to say something, but i love seeing him stare down Taylor Mays in the endzone. That is the type of attitude we need. He is not a thug, so whats the beef?
 

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Fuck Prister, I'm sick of some of the whineasses who want them to play with heart, but want them to act like they've been there before. These are kids who are having fun, and enjoying a game for what it should be. I don't have the least problem with what Golden does on the field, he didn't gouge anyones eyes out, or take a cheap shot at a defenseless player, for Prister to take a shot at him is classless and immature. Prister talked about how in his 30 years of covering Irish football he's not seen anyone like him in terms of flamboyance? He's not covered it very well then. Ricky Watters was as flamboyant as they came, Stonebreaker, the same. Those teams of the early Holtz years celebrated and danced in the endzone after TD's, so don't spew this shit about Tate.
 

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He is not nearly as bad as others i have seen. Watch the NFL, those players could be called for unsportsmanlike penalties every play if they were still in college.

He is playing the game, playing with passion. Again i will say it, severe disposition for opponents is what is needed in a football player. If i was wide open, and got the ball bounced in front of me not once, but twice, i would be upset too.

You are in college, and expected to play to the best of your ability. He didnt yell at dane and call him a dumbass or anything, he was upset at the time b/c HE WAS OPEN. He showed it with body language, so what.

Jimmy has been upset at players for dropping passes, not running routes right, falling in routes(cough cough kamara) and has shown it with body language. Its okay for him though?

JC has got in the face of defenders when i felt there was no need to, but i am not gonna call the guy arrogant and cocky. He will get in the face of them because he has that attitude. The "Im not gonna take any shit and yes, i am better than you" attitude.

Tate is by far still my favorite player on the field (attitude and all), and an absolute nice kid off it from what everyone has said. Give him a break, he has been winning games for us people. Love his attitude, wish more guys had it (especially on defense).

We will be a mean nasty football team..... anyone remember that quote?

Screw picking em up after you knock em down. I will shake your hand at the end of the game, not during it.
 

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I do not have a problem with Tate at all. He is not over the top, he talks smack and has swagger. I hera that he is not representing NotreDame in an appropriate manner but i say that BS. He is a competitor and everyone who plays at that level believes he is the best. CB's hold him and he still makes plays, so he lets them know it. Samrdzija did alot of the same stuff. The only time i thought they might flag him was for the band dive but it seems like some of the older fans are just overreacting. If i see him celebrating and we are getting blown out ill be the first to say something, but i love seeing him stare down Taylor Mays in the endzone. That is the type of attitude we need. He is not a thug, so whats the beef?

If i could rep you more, i would. Got to spread it around some more first though.
 

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I honestly don't know what to think of Golden. He seems like a pretty nice guy in his interviews, even shy at times. However, once he hits the field he turns into a cocky douchebag. He's a mystery.

Hes not a mystery, hes a FOOTBALL player. COMPETITIVE AS HELL ON THE FIELD.

I wish everyone of our football players had his attitude.

My coach in HS once introduced me to an All-State LB he coached at mohawk in the 90s when i went to a playoff game he was at. He was huge, came up and shook coaches hand and mine when we were introduced. We all talked for a few minutes and then he went on his way.

Once he left, my coach said "Hes a nice guy isnt he?"

"Yea, seemed so" I replyed.

Coach said "He really is. He was one of the nicest kids i have ever coached at Mohawk. OFF the field at least. On the field, he was one mean player who would kick your ass and not think twice about it."

Thats how golden is. He will kick anyones ass, and let them know it. They cant cover him. They cant tackle him. Hell if its one on one open field, they cant touch him. That the way he should think, and its not bad.
 

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We have alot of guys like this which i think is good. Golden, Jimmy, Eric Olsen, and Brain Smith areall guys like this. They may push it sometimes but its that attitude that fuels them.

The problem is it seems people think that smack talk/ swagger goes hand in hand with being a dirty player. Our guys do not eye gouge, punch players, they dont stomp on injured feet, but they will get in your face. Tom Brady talks alot of shit in games, despite Deion's antics he was considered a great teammate by some of the best to have ever played the game. As long as it doesnt hurt the team, keep it on the field and conduct themselves in an appropriate manner, i have no problem with them struttin.
 
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