Notre Dame 3rd and Goal...

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...from the 5 yard line with 35secs to go. Tie game. on the far left hash mark. going up against a USC defense. and no time outs. while USC has all 3. Do you....

a) run up the middle with Hughes/Aldridge
b) goal line offense, play action pass to Rudolph over the middle
c) fade to floyd
d) quick pass to tate, hoping he can make his man miss
e) AA on a sweep
f) just a run right to center up for a FG
g) take a knee to go to overtime, (should be very popular choice) lol
h) other (fill in blank)
 

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Cool. They going up against an ND offense.

Tight right, flood right, QB roll right throwback to X, or sweep right (handoff sweep), TB throwback to X. (Or we could call it "Trojan special.")

Either score or incomplete. Time left on clock. Field goal.
 

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F. He who has the most points at the end of time wins no mater how they got them! Theres nothing wrong with winning a hard fought battle by a FG.
 

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Quick to Tate, Throw it behind him so he can come back for the ball. If he misses, lets win it on a FG.
 

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h) kick the FG on 3rd down. Squib the kickoff and take my chances with my defense. lightning shouldn't strike twice.
 
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jump ball to the coner of the endzone for floyd. twice. there would be no logical reason to go to overtime. i never understand why coaches made stupid decisions against better football teams.
 

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jump ball to floyd, let him go up and get it. if its incomplete we kick on 4th down and win it by a field goal.
 

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line up for a field goal. BUT...

have clausen in to kick and have the ends of the line be: allen, hughes, tate, and floyd (make sure the refs know they are eligible). usc may be good... but those players are so dumb they will never see it coming! carroll will be too busy chewing gum and pondering how exactly he is using aaron corp and we have clausen and crist. then when we snap the ball, direct snap to clausen. if for some reason the steriod induced manic states of the usc players lets them blow the play up... drop kick it!

it is my personal opinion that every quarterback should know how to dropkick.





or just throw an out route to tate. he'll make the first down.
 

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h) kick the FG on 3rd down. Squib the kickoff and take my chances with my defense. lightning shouldn't strike twice.

TDJesus, dude, that's a HORRIBLE idea brother! That means USC gets the ball back with 25+ seconds back, with the ball possibly at the 40 or even closer. That's waaaaaaayyyyy too much time and way too good of field position. Squib kicks are the friggin' devil! Ask the Bears how their squib kick worked against the Falcons last year (I believe it was them...there was like 20 seconds left, they squib kicked it, and the Falcons got the ball at like the 45 or so. 2 plays later they had their fg. And with USC still having 2 timeouts, they'll use the middle of the field and get within scoring range very quickly.

I'm more of a gambler, and I hate giving another team the last shot against the inevitable prevent defense, so I ask myself, how much to I trust my QB, and do I trust him more than my kicker? JC will be a jr, so I put the ball in my 2 best players' hands. Quick play-action to Hughes, and then fade (JC's best throw) up top to Floyd in THE CORNER OF THE ENDZONE. I tell my QB, either Floyd gets it, or it's in the stands. If we score a TD, then I squib kick, and if we settle for a fg, then I kick it deep and let Anello handle his business.
 

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Easy, you have to go with f.

But what if it's the same situation but ND is down by 3?

Or ND is down by seven and gets the TD. Do you send it to OT? Or go for it all?
 

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Down by 4, 3rd and goal. 25seconds left. All the same options as above...
 

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Down by 4, 3rd and goal. 25seconds left. All the same options as above...

i would probaby just take my chances and do a fade pass but to kamara, since more than likey floyd will be double covered in this situation, but if that fails, take my chances again with the fade but to floyd.
 

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Work the Rudolph over the middle with both WRs running fade routes and a play action to pull in the LBs. Rudolph vs a SS? Money.
 

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...from the 5 yard line with 35secs to go. Tie game. on the far left hash mark. going up against a USC defense. and no time outs. while USC has all 3. Do you....

a) run up the middle with Hughes/Aldridge
b) goal line offense, play action pass to Rudolph over the middle
c) fade to floyd
d) quick pass to tate, hoping he can make his man miss
e) AA on a sweep
f) just a run right to center up for a FG
g) take a knee to go to overtime, (should be very popular choice) lol
h) other (fill in blank)

A: ARE YOU INSANE???
B: Too risky, especially if USC blitzes
C: Too easy. Throw it anywhere within fifteen yards of Floyd and he's going to get it
D: Not a good idea
E: APOCALYPTICALLY HORRIBLE IDEA, even worse if there's a wind (Allen would fall right over)
F: Could Walker make it?
G: NO
H: Put Tate, Floyd, Rudolph, and Kamara on one side of the field. Throw the ball in the air to that side and watch the fun begin.
 

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i take it the game is tied.....so run the ball towards the middle of the field, TD if possible. if not kick the FG.

But from charlies eyes....... hmmm. screen on third and draw on 4th.
 

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why would you even consider anything besides setting up the field goal? hell, the next best option would be to just kick it on third down.
 

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Run the ball to the middle of the field. Line up for a chip shot that has a lot less chance of missing. Kill clock.
 

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we we cant kick the field goals then u gotta put the game in the hands of ur best players. Dont care how to do it, Clausen to Floyd.
 

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...from the 5 yard line with 35secs to go. Tie game. on the far left hash mark. going up against a USC defense. and no time outs. while USC has all 3. Do you....

a) run up the middle with Hughes/Aldridge
b) goal line offense, play action pass to Rudolph over the middle
c) fade to floyd
d) quick pass to tate, hoping he can make his man miss
e) AA on a sweep
f) just a run right to center up for a FG
g) take a knee to go to overtime, (should be very popular choice) lol
h) other (fill in blank)

None of the above!
Floyd, Tate, and Kamara are standing on the sidelines watching a Full House Backfield behind the best ND OLine since Taylor, Ruddy, and Norman graduated. That's a 7 man OLine with Rudolph and Ragone on the wings, the best pair of pass catching TE's in Cristendom.


AS Trojan D.C. do you key on:
  • the run behind Young, Stewart, Aldridge, AND Hughes?
  • The delay to EITHER TE off of play action?
  • The pass to unaccounted for RB off play action?
  • Or the newly found running feet of Clausen on a naked bootleg while the defenders are occupied chasing down all the other options?
Many, many choices this year.
 

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Any run = 5 yard loss, except: everyone spread wide, running for the corners, one TE coming across the middle to cream MLB, tell JC if he doesn't score on the delayed QB sneak that he'll sit for the rest of his career.
 

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For the new question... down four on the five...

I'd stack the line. Take out Kamara, take out Tate. Go big with Rudy, Fauria, and Ragone. Split Floyd out wide. With that size, we can get one pound the middle of the field. We knock it in from five yards out... great. If not, USC can either call a TO or we let time run down and go no huddle. Thus, both options are good for us.

So, this is what I would do. I'd put Hughes in the backfield and tell him to grab some sack. Run to the right side behind Winger, TRob and Sam Young. They are your money guys... go for the dive. We get stuffed, no-huddle and we'll pass the ball. We gain 2-4, that opens it up for another give, a sneak, or a little play action.

So, 3rd down = run. Stuffed or less than three yards, no huddle and run a pass (will be discussed below.) If we get 3.5 to 4.5 yards, we can hit between the tackles again. You sack the hell up as an oline and get the job done. No zone. Dive. Additionally, we could run a little PA on 4th.

If we are stuffed, I'd keep in the TEs. Great mismatch, great size, speed, and hands. To account for the run threat on 3rd down, they have to stack the box with LBs or an extra DL. So, unless SC hits us with a TO, we got a massive missmatch on our hands. So... I would call one of two plays if I was stuffed. Go from the gun, Hughes left, Rudy Right Tight, Ragone split behind Rudy, Floyd at X on right side, Fauria split left. I always like rolling out to the wide side of the field. Gives you more room, gives the DBs more space to have to cover, gives the QB a bigger field if case of having to scramble. So, going to the wide side, I'd have big H stay in to block backside pressure. I put Floyd in motion, upon the snap have him run a six yard whip. Rudy runs a skinny, skinny, skinny out route right over the goal line. Ragone runs a hook two yards deep in the endzone filling in the space behind Rudy and Floyd once were when they cut to the sideline. Meanwhile, Fauria runs the "Dwight Clark" route to the very back corner of the endzone. Once back there, defenders forget about players. Anyway, I'd roll out Jimmy to his right, the wide side, have him hit the open man in the zone, hit one of the two out routes vs. man, scramble for the two yards if everything is shot to shit. You have four great options here and a fifth with the run. Hell, if you even want to, allow Hughes to serve as a delay throw back once the D has totally committed to the action to the right. (Yeah, I have my own freaking playbook already. Whut?)

The other play? Floyd runs a corner to the back pylon. Rudy runs a shallow drag, Fauria a seven yard dig above Rudy, Ragone runs a delayed crossing drag behind Rudy in the middle and have Hughes run a delayed hook. Speed, size, hands. Deadly.
 

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Line up big, Tight right, pro set (with a tweak or two) with offset I backfield. Line up quick and quick count (Omaha! Let's Go!). Play action right, bootleg, with TE dragging across. FB sits in middle. Given the excitement, that might completely cause SC to overcommit.

Heck, another option is to run a freeze and draw them offsides. Clock stops. Half the distance.
 

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TDJesus, dude, that's a HORRIBLE idea brother! That means USC gets the ball back with 25+ seconds back....I'm more of a gambler....

considering the game is tied with no timeouts, I think its a good idea. albeit conservative. I think taking an absolutely unnecessary risk of throwing the ball (with the game tied) is not a good idea. if ND was down, a pass comes into play, but with the game tied its an unnecessary risk, this isnt xbox live.

Or:

h) Have my QB take a knee on 3rd down, while my FG team is ready to run onto the field and setup and kick with no timeout. that can be done 35 secs.

But a pass in that situation, with the game tied, is a good way for a coach to get fired. What if there is an INT? A wide open WR bounces the perfectly throw ball of his chest for an INT. Why risk an INT going for a TD, when all you need is a FG? Try being a coach having to answer that at the post game conference after losing in OT.
 
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I think you have Jimmy roll right, narrowly avoid the sack and then chuck it into the band section while he shakes his head and wonders wtf just happened.
 
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