'10 GA WR Tai-ler Jones (Notre Dame Signee)

[Ricochet]

2:30 is the start of his press conference.

 

[Bubba]

Is that Eastern time...so in about 25 minutes or so?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

We'll see if Steve Wiltfong's predicts are correct with the school beginning with N

I really had him pegged as a Dawg, but a few minutes will tell us

 

[NDinL.A.]

Stanford

 

[Bubba]

Rivals.com - AMP Exclusive: Tai-ler Jones commits

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Hats off to harbaugh on that one

 

[Ricochet]

We'll see if Steve Wiltfong's predicts are correct with the school beginning with N

I really had him pegged as a Dawg, but a few minutes will tell us

A few hours ago he said he thought he was wrong about that N prediction and his correction was correct as Tai-ler Jones chose Stanford.

 

[Ricochet]

Hats off to harbaugh on that one

I agree but in the end I think the difference was PT as he would have to bide his time at ND whereas at Standford the PT will more and sooner.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

True. He could start for them as a true freshman, and Harbaugh pulled in Andrew Luck last year too, so he could have a nice connection there.

best of luck to the kid

 

[IrishAddiction]

moving on, we arent hurting at the WR position, i think that played into his decision for sure... best of luck to him.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Wow. This one is not over by a longshot for Harbaugh. On the premium sites they have his interviews up and he's saying that he's basically a 'soft verbal' (that makes no sense to me. I mean, then why commit? You're still going to be inundated w/ calls and texts and emails kid. whatever). He's still willing to listen to new offers. Now, we're not a new offer, so I don't know how much we're really in play here, but Harbaugh is still going to have to keep recruiting this kid. And if he blows up his senior year, and he hears places like USC or FL calling, you bet he's going to open up his recruiting. Especially considering how much he says that weather and lifestyle played such a big part.

Now, I really wanted this kid. I think he's a stud, so I'm not going to try and front like I'm glad he didn't verbal to us. But having heard that he's a soft commit, no thanks. Call me when he's ready to sign. I've had enough of the Byron Moores of the world. I think he's a fantastic get for Stanford, but then again he's still not a 'get' yet. I'd say they're number one right now, but they don't have him.

We're lucky in the sense that this isn't a safety that we desperately needed. This is a position of strength, we have great depth here and we still have 3 outstanding prospects coming to SB this weekend (although Cooper will prob play safety in college). McCay is the big fish I'd love to have, and Prater is right there with Jones. If Jones changes his mind, that's awesome, but if not, I'll take a Prater or a McCay thank you very much.

EDIT: Wait until he sees the kinda #'s Tate and Floyd put up this year as opposed to Stanfraud who will run run run...

 

[SoCalDomer]

He says he will continue to take visits, including official visits, so i edited to soft verbal.

 

[Irishlew]

Wow. This one is not over by a longshot for Harbaugh. On the premium sites they have his interviews up and he's saying that he's basically a 'soft verbal' (that makes no sense to me. I mean, then why commit? You're still going to be inundated w/ calls and texts and emails kid. whatever). He's still willing to listen to new offers. Now, we're not a new offer, so I don't know how much we're really in play here, but Harbaugh is still going to have to keep recruiting this kid. And if he blows up his senior year, and he hears places like USC or FL calling, you bet he's going to open up his recruiting. Especially considering how much he says that weather and lifestyle played such a big part.

Now, I really wanted this kid. I think he's a stud, so I'm not going to try and front like I'm glad he didn't verbal to us. But having heard that he's a soft commit, no thanks. Call me when he's ready to sign. I've had enough of the Byron Moores of the world. I think he's a fantastic get for Stanford, but then again he's still not a 'get' yet. I'd say they're number one right now, but they don't have him.

We're lucky in the sense that this isn't a safety that we desperately needed. This is a position of strength, we have great depth here and we still have 3 outstanding prospects coming to SB this weekend (although Cooper will prob play safety in college). McCay is the big fish I'd love to have, and Prater is right there with Jones. If Jones changes his mind, that's awesome, but if not, I'll take a Prater or a McCay thank you very much.

EDIT: Wait until he sees the kinda #'s Tate and Floyd put up this year as opposed to Stanfraud who will run run run...

Great post...if Prater commits that would be ridiculous as i see him on par with some of the great WR's who have come into college the past few years. McCay would also be a huge get and would love to see him play LB in college. All seriousness, i believe we already have a WR committed who is every bit as good and much bigger then Jones. I hope he goes to Stanford, it's always fun beating the recruits who spurn us.

 

[ant80]

Let me put this to rest. There's nothing "soft" about his verbal. He is a man of class and integrity. He has handled the recruiting process very well, and far far FAR better than most other kids. He has his opinion, and I would recommend everybody stops deriding him for his choice because of what some random website says. I will eat crow if he changes his commitment.

edit: That said, some reports suggest that Montana might verbal to Stanford as well. And that Jones and Montana were talking about playing for Stanford together.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Personally, I'm not deriding his choice at all. Stanford's a great academic school. Harbaugh is not a popular guy around here, but I've been giving him credit for a while on this board (regardless of his personality that rubs a bunch of people, esp USC, the wrong way). His teams are very tough, they run the hell out of the ball, and he's a great recruiter. Yeah, he offers the world a scholly, but he gets a lot of guys to either commit or strongly consider committing, guys that people have pegged to UCLA, USC, and yes, even ND.

But I completely agree with you saying "there is nothing soft about his verbal." Ummmm, when you say that you are willing to listen to new offers, and that you will take your 5 official visits, that sounds to me like, well, you are still willing to explore your options. Where you get saying that he's not soft is beyond me. Yes, he said nice things about Stanford, but he said nice things about a lot of schools. The thing that sticks in my mind is...I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO NEW OFFERS. How in thw world is that a strong commit. Just because he has class and dignity, which I don't argue at all, doesn't take away from the fat that he said those things. He may still go to Stanford, but that doesn't mean he isn't a soft commit.

You want a strong commit? Go look up Chris Martin. He tells everyone who will calls that he appreciates the offer and the love, but he is firmly an ND commit, and then he politely says good bye and hangs up. Now THAT is a strong commit...

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

In the words of Stuart Scott...


BOO YAH

 

[ant80]

Personally, I'm not deriding his choice at all. Stanford's a great academic school. Harbaugh is not a popular guy around here, but I've been giving him credit for a while on this board (regardless of his personality that rubs a bunch of people, esp USC, the wrong way). His teams are very tough, they run the hell out of the ball, and he's a great recruiter. Yeah, he offers the world a scholly, but he gets a lot of guys to either commit or strongly consider committing, guys that people have pegged to UCLA, USC, and yes, even ND.

But I completely agree with you saying "there is nothing soft about his verbal." Ummmm, when you say that you are willing to listen to new offers, and that you will take your 5 official visits, that sounds to me like, well, you are still willing to explore your options. Where you get saying that he's not soft is beyond me. Yes, he said nice things about Stanford, but he said nice things about a lot of schools. The thing that sticks in my mind is...I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO NEW OFFERS. How in thw world is that a strong commit. Just because he has class and dignity, which I don't argue at all, doesn't take away from the fat that he said those things. He may still go to Stanford, but that doesn't mean he isn't a soft commit.

You want a strong commit? Go look up Chris Martin. He tells everyone who will calls that he appreciates the offer and the love, but he is firmly an ND commit, and then he politely says good bye and hangs up. Now THAT is a strong commit...

It is VERY rare to find any recruit that speaks negatively of any school. They only say the positive aspects of that school.

Also, you're looking at the visits through the glasses of a domer. In recent years, CW has been stung by the decommits, which is why he instituted that rule, no visits after commit. Not all schools have that. Most OSU commits and USC commits visit other schools before sign-in day. As do recruits that have committed to most other schools. Granted, it puts them as a higher risk to decommit than ND recruits, but that again depends on the attitude of the kid, and his character. I can tell you that Jones is not like that. It's as solid as they come.

While CW's rule fits his coaching philosophy, its neither right nor wrong for a prospect to take visits after a "verbal commitment."

 

[SoCalDomer]

Let me put this to rest. There's nothing "soft" about his verbal. He is a man of class and integrity. He has handled the recruiting process very well, and far far FAR better than most other kids.

my listing him as a soft verbal has nothing to do with me challenging his integrity. He said himself, with his own word, using his own mouth that he is going to take official visits to other schools despite his "commitment." anytime someone says they're committed but are going to take additional visits to other schools, i think it's justified to question the seriousness of the commitment.

if he doesn't change his commitment, or never takes a visit, then good for him.

He has his opinion, and I would recommend everybody stops deriding him for his choice because of what some random website says. I will eat crow if he changes his commitment.

can you please quote for me the exact "deriding him for his choice" that we are so guilty of? the only comments I see are "good luck to him" etc. Callig his commitment "soft" when he says he is going to continue to consider offers and take visits is not "deriding him for his choice." That's calling a spade, a spade.

because of what some random website says? what random site are you referring to? the random site that interviewed him and recorded his statement that he is taking visits? or do you mean the random recruiting website you're relying on about Montana and Tailer allegedly discussing playing together? I assume you weren't apart of those conversations, so you must be relying on some random website to get that information.

 

[SoCalDomer]

It is VERY rare to find any recruit that speaks negatively of any school. They only say the positive aspects of that school.

Also, you're looking at the visits through the glasses of a domer. In recent years, CW has been stung by the decommits, which is why he instituted that rule, no visits after commit. Not all schools have that. Most OSU commits and USC commits visit other schools before sign-in day. As do recruits that have committed to most other schools. Granted, it puts them as a higher risk to decommit than ND recruits, but that again depends on the attitude of the kid, and his character. I can tell you that Jones is not like that. It's as solid as they come.

While CW's rule fits his coaching philosophy, its neither right nor wrong for a prospect to take visits after a "verbal commitment."

you yourself recognize that a player who takes visits after a "commitment" is more likely to decommit than another verbal commit. and i believe there are statistics on it that strongly favor a decommitment once a "verbal commit" starts taking visits to other schools.

so don't come here acting like we are way out in left field when we simply note that he says he's going to take visits, after he makes a commitment. you're not the only one who follows recruiting.

no one said he couldn't take visits after his verbal. but it is justified to say that it necessarily calls into question the seriousness of his commitment. the fact that he may never decommit from Stanford doesn't change that. If he is certain he is going to Stanford, then there is no need for visits. Unless he's simply taking vacations to other schools under the ruse that he is seriously considering them.

he can do whatever he wants with additional visits. and we have the right to discuss those additional visits. no one is doing what Buckeye sites do when they lose a recruit, such as say he now "sucks", or ND never really wanted him, or the kid was afraid of competition, etc, etc.

he made a good choice in a school. good for him. no hard feelings.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I can tell you that Jones is not like that. It's as solid as they come.

SoCal pretty much summed up what I was feeling.

But this quote above, in which you say that he's 'as solid as they come', is simply beyond ridiculous! Are you really saying that even though he admits that he's going to listen to other schools AND he's going to take all his official visits, that his commitment is 'as solid as they come'???????? Please tell me you're kidding. Brother, you're giving OSU fans a bad name (although many on here would say that name is already deserved). Can you really look someone in the eye say that Jones' commitment as just as strong as Chris Martin, who will NOT take official visits, will not look at other schools, and will NOT even talk to any other school other than to say, "No thanks." Are you REALLY trying to sell that argument??? I'd love to hear your rebuttal...

 

[SoCalDomer]

for the record, so no one thinks i am in the sour-grapes, haters club. Good luck to Tai-ler, he picked a great academic school. He looks to be a good recruit. Would have loved to have a son of a former player.

I will have to hope once a year he has a terrible game, though.

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

Yea I do not think this committment is solid at all...I still think we have a chance along with Georgia...

 

[Irishlew]

ant80
I can tell you that Jones is not like that. It's as solid as they come

I think Chris Martin disagrees.

"Notre Dame doesn't have to win a single game, I'm still going to go there," Martin said. "I didn't go there solely for football. It goes way beyond that."

 

[NDinL.A.]

Let me put this to rest. There's nothing "soft" about his verbal. He is a man of class and integrity. He has handled the recruiting process very well, and far far FAR better than most other kids. He has his opinion, and I would recommend everybody stops deriding him for his choice because of what some random website says. I will eat crow if he changes his commitment.

edit: That said, some reports suggest that Montana might verbal to Stanford as well. And that Jones and Montana were talking about playing for Stanford together.

Well, if this is as 'solid as they come', as you said earlier, then no commitments are ever solid. Read this article:

Jones Sets ND Official -

He's coming for the USC game to check out more of ND and ND life. I'm not attcking his character at all, just repeating what was reported. And again, if a kid commits early but still wants to take officials, then he's not a strong commit (yet). I hope he changes his mind, but if he doesn't, he's smart to do his due diligence. Being a legacy, we still have a good shot here...

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

He is also going to our summer camp for a few days to go along with his official visit...Our staff has a great oppurtunity to build a great relationship with this kid and hopefully he falls in love with ND and realize we have much better talent than Stanford...I think his official will be the key...I know he wants to win and if we're winning, that obviously ups our chances...The game against USC will be HUGE for a lot of these recruits.

 

[phork]

I don't think its a matter of talent, but what you do with it. Harbaugh has kicked some ass at Stanford with so pretty feeble talent.

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

We pretty much dominated Stanford with a 28-7 lead going into the 4th quarter last year...Then we took our foot off the gas...We have much more talent and displayed it last year...just not for 4 quarters...I hope we learned that we can not just sit on a lead...

 

[phork]

The final score in that game should have been 42-7. Thats what good teams do. All I am saying is that Harbaugh has done more with less. Hell he has Charlie 1-0 vs USC.

 

[jason_h537]

The final score in that game should have been 42-7. Thats what good teams do. All I am saying is that Harbaugh has done more with less. Hell he has Charlie 1-0 vs USC.

Damn, u shut me up with that last one. I was gonna say some smart ass remark, but your right

 

[BGIF]

The final score in that game should have been 42-7. Thats what good teams do....

It should have been had we been a good team.

All I am saying is that Harbaugh has done more with less. Hell he has Charlie 1-0 vs USC.

Harbaugh has done well both recruiting and on the field - with what he has. He could end up hurting ND as SU is recruiting the same kind of kids ND does. ND should win most of the head to head battles for the top tier players but considering ND's depth at WR I can understand prospects like Jones looking there.