Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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It’s not just that Notre Dame lost to BYU. They were out coached, out schemed, out played, etc.. If Notre Dame played a clean game and still lost, that would be a much easier pill to swallow. How does a team commit so many mental and physical errors when they are returning their HC, both coordinators, starting QB, and a bunch of returning production? No matter how you look at it, last night was a disgrace and embarrassing.

Freeman needs to wake the fuck up. His “keep the pain” and “leave no doubt” bullshit quotes were cute at the time and made good t-shirts, but now it looks really stupid.
I’m still wearing one of the t shirts. I won’t put it on again unless we beat Miami.

We lose to Miami and I’m canceling trip for SMU game, and I’d recommend every fan attending do the same to send a message to Pete.

I’m not sure Pete is serious about winning as much as he is about making more $$$.
 

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It’s not just that Notre Dame lost to BYU. They were out coached, out schemed, out played, etc.. If Notre Dame played a clean game and still lost, that would be a much easier pill to swallow. How does a team commit so many mental and physical errors when they are returning their HC, both coordinators, starting QB, and a bunch of returning production? No matter how you look at it, last night was a disgrace and embarrassing.

Freeman needs to wake the fuck up. His “keep the pain” and “leave no doubt” bullshit quotes were cute at the time and made good t-shirts, but now it looks really stupid.
The slogans ring hollow after last night. But I'm not giving up on the 2026 ND football team or Freeman yet. Let's see how the team plays with its back against the wall
 

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Give me an actual point. The guy has lost to the last three teams that have had a pulse…and were favorites in each game. Ten point favorites last night and they got dog walked. BYU did everything they could think of in the second half to blow that game.
 

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I think we’ve seen the ceiling of what Freeman can do. If you’re ok with nearly getting there and no further, then you are ok with keeping him. If you want to actually win a championship before you die, you are now ready for him to move on. That’s what it all boils down to. Your personal tolerance level.

Have a great one, guys!
 

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Freeman isn’t intelligent enough to know what changes are needed or how to develop game plans and more importantly in game changes. It’s why he needs outside sources to recommend coaches for him. He allows those coaches to create the game plans and roster rotations then figure out on their own the in game adjustments.

He has some incredible traits but my concern with him now is his passion and fire seems to be lacking. Apologizing for getting on aneyas was alarming. He’s not getting on officials at all. He’s obviously not getting on players or coaches.

As many have stated, the team didn’t play hard.

Linebacker play has been poor this year, that is the only position he has his hands on, it’s our worst one with possibly the best depth of talent and experience.

Just like NIU, win out and retain jobs. Lose another game this regular season and a lot of coaches need to lose their jobs.

Either he hasn’t learned the offensive side enough or he is scared to tell people what to do.

Talks the big game then gets embarrassed again. ND is not capable of winning a national championship and Indiana (can’t believe I am saying this) has better on the field team.
 

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Tired of hearing... "is it a technique issue or is it an execution issue, we need to go and evaluate the film". Evaluate the film then make some changes please on both sides of the ball. I am tired of seeing us get owned over the middle of the field because our LBs can cover in zone. Tired of seeing the same vanilla play calls on offense hoping that they will work. There is no way you can watch the film of this game and not come out of it saying we need to make some changes. Scheme and player changes are needed. Player rotations need evaluated, Williams shouldn't be seeing the field over NJJ or Walton and there is no way you can convince me that Thomas is our best option to put on the field at DE.
 

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Is Kirby Smart a bad coach because Georgia lost to Auburn at home? I'm not panicking or passing judgment yet. It's gonna be a shitty three weeks until the Miami game though
This is the weird thing. Ohio State losing to bad Texas on the road how they did was infinitely worse than the loss last night, doesn't invalidate them as a team or Day as a coach. Can apply the same thing across the board.

ND is currently #4 in SP+, they lost to #9 on the road. Boo hoo.

The complaints of *how* ND lost are legitimate. The teeth gnashing that Marcus Freeman now "sucks" are not, and people would be freaking out if he left ND.

Main focus should be on fixing the way we play defense before Miami because the same stuff BYU did to move the ball at ease in the first quarter is exactly what Miami wants to do but better and with better receivers. Secondary focus needs to be on the design of the passing game, but you can only change so much midseason.
 

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What changes would you make curious?

I personally think a change at WR coach should be at the top of the list. Denbrock clearly doesn’t jive well with Brown. Not only does the OC not like him, he has failed to develop his room outside of the top 3 guys. Now, one could say “well the receivers don’t practice well” or “they aren’t ready for real game minutes yet”. That is Brown’s job to have them ready and prepared to play.

I would then look at a coordinator change. Idk if it’d be smart to change both in the same offseason. Personally, I have more faith in Denbrock to figure it out than Ash.
 

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I personally think a change at WR coach should be at the top of the list. Denbrock clearly doesn’t jive well with Brown. Not only does the OC not like him, he has failed to develop his room outside of the top 3 guys. Now, one could say “well the receivers don’t practice well” or “they aren’t ready for real game minutes yet”. That is Brown’s job to have them ready and prepared to play.

I would then look at a coordinator change. Idk if it’d be smart to change both in the same offseason. Personally, I have more faith in Denbrock to figure it out than Ash.
Having a defensive minded head coach would help me lean towards making a change on the offensive side of the ball first. MFMF has shown that he can be successful on the defensive side of the ball. Denbrocks scheme doesn't work and it shows in games that matter.
 

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What changes would you make curious?
I would fire Ash for sure. Next year will be a rebuild on defense anyways. Try to keep Partridge, but almost no one else matters.

Offense I don't really care, I think they do some good stuff and it's mostly correctible. Depends on if CJ comes back.
 

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I would fire Ash for sure. Next year will be a rebuild on defense anyways. Try to keep Partridge, but almost no one else matters.

Offense I don't really care, I think they do some good stuff and it's mostly correctible. Depends on if CJ comes back.
My biggest issue with Denbrock is the predictability. When we motion the TE in its a run play almost every time. Very rarely do you see a tendency breaker. When was the last time he dialed up a wide open play?
 

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I think we’ve seen the ceiling of what Freeman can do. If you’re ok with nearly getting there and no further, then you are ok with keeping him. If you want to actually win a championship before you die, you are now ready for him to move on. That’s what it all boils down to. Your personal tolerance level.

Have a great one, guys!
I hate to keep comparing Freeman to Kirby, but Smart didn't win a championship at Georgia until his 6th year and lost a bunch of big games along the way. What if Georgia had given up on him?
 

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This is what this team under freeman’s leadership has done. Unfortunately it’s the truth.

Embarrassing
 

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My biggest issue with Denbrock is the predictability. When we motion the TE in its a run play almost every time. Very rarely do you see a tendency breaker. When was the last time he dialed up a wide open play?
This is exactly the issue. All his best offenses have QB run game as a huge part of it, which he uses to open up other explosives. Without that, he really only has a couple things he does and it's pretty obvious to even casual fans what is coming most of the time. Nothing really "surprises" the defense and everything is skin-of-your-teeth for it to work, all tight window throws and shit like that.

I'm not saying he needs to be Sean McVay but go look at how the Rams call offense in the NFL and compare it to what we do. Somewhere in between that and throwing a gazillion fades is where we need to be.
 

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I would fire Ash for sure. Next year will be a rebuild on defense anyways. Try to keep Partridge, but almost no one else matters.

Offense I don't really care, I think they do some good stuff and it's mostly correctible. Depends on if CJ comes back.

I'm the opposite. I think the entire offensive side outside Seider can go.
 

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Marcus Freeman turned this program from operating at a top 15 level to operating at a top 3-5 level. We would be in a much worse position without him. It’s not disputable.

Point to Ash’s first half gameplan or some of Denbrock’s play calling, but the coaches didn’t miss two open TD passes and fumble a spike.
 

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Marcus Freeman turned this program from operating at a top 15 level to operating at a top 3-5 level. We would be in a much worse position without him. It’s not disputable.

Point to Ash’s first half gameplan or some of Denbrock’s play calling, but the coaches didn’t miss two open TD passes and fumble a spike.
Still getting embarrassed every year. Nothing has changed. ND football is what it is. And that’s not a championship level team.
 

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I'm not interested in firing anyone. I am interested in Marcus holding Denbrook and Ash accountable in making adjustments sooner when something isn't working.

I would've rather gone down swinging doing what we do best: man to man and pressure. Would Bear have a few big runs? probably. Would we force them into big mistakes? Probably.

CJ was off and left A LOT of points on the board. That tells me as flawed as Denbrook was, he still did more than enough to win. However it was on HIM to change when CJ wasn't doing what he normally does. Mesh and slants would've been explosive last night.
 

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I would fire Ash for sure. Next year will be a rebuild on defense anyways. Try to keep Partridge, but almost no one else matters.

Offense I don't really care, I think they do some good stuff and it's mostly correctible. Depends on if CJ comes back.
Is next year really going to be a rebuild? Tae is gone but we’ve been playing without him, Onye is gone but have been playing without him. Sneed is gone. Bowen, Ausberry, KVA, Farimo all have eligibility left. Most likely you convince one of KVA, Ausberry, Bowen to come back and start with Farimo. Maybe you go get a LB in portal. Safety I think Shuler, Talich one of the two maybe both come back. O’brien starts.
Brewu, Gray are back most likely Golden and Burgess should be ready. Corner you got most likely Sanders and Gray back, Golden? Transfer ? DE I think it will be Young and Dunham plus young guys . Don’t think we will be as deep but def talented to have a top 20 defense
 

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I'm not interested in firing anyone. I am interested in Marcus holding Denbrook and Ash accountable in making adjustments sooner when something isn't working.

I would've rather gone down swinging doing what we do best: man to man and pressure. Would Bear have a few big runs? probably. Would we force them into big mistakes? Probably.

CJ was off and left A LOT of points on the board. That tells me as flawed as Denbrook was, he still did more than enough to win. However it was on HIM to change when CJ wasn't doing what he normally does. Mesh and slants would've been explosive last night.
He doesn’t have it in him. We have seen this time and time again when the Head Coach needs to stand up and say no… this is what we are doing.
 

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Is next year really going to be a rebuild? Tae is gone but we’ve been playing without him, Onye is gone but have been playing without him. Sneed is gone. Bowen, Ausberry, KVA, Farimo all have eligibility left. Most likely you convince one of KVA, Ausberry, Bowen to come back and start with Farimo. Maybe you go get a LB in portal. Safety I think Shuler, Talich one of the two maybe both come back. O’brien starts.
Brewu, Gray are back most likely Golden and Burgess should be ready. Corner you got most likely Sanders and Gray back, Golden? Transfer ? DE I think it will be Young and Dunham plus young guys . Don’t think we will be as deep but def talented to have a top 20 defense
Imo

Bowen is gone, KVA is gone, Ausberry isn’t very good, Farimo is probably a transfer. Moore is gone, if Talich listens to his agent he is gone, his stock isn’t going to get much better.

Carr is gone and Fasion is gone.

Going to be ugly
 

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Is next year really going to be a rebuild? Tae is gone but we’ve been playing without him, Onye is gone but have been playing without him. Sneed is gone. Bowen, Ausberry, KVA, Farimo all have eligibility left. Most likely you convince one of KVA, Ausberry, Bowen to come back and start with Farimo. Maybe you go get a LB in portal. Safety I think Shuler, Talich one of the two maybe both come back. O’brien starts.
Brewu, Gray are back most likely Golden and Burgess should be ready. Corner you got most likely Sanders and Gray back, Golden? Transfer ? DE I think it will be Young and Dunham plus young guys . Don’t think we will be as deep but def talented to have a top 20 defense
does any of it matter? We’ll beat up on Purdue and wake and Stanford, then lose to Auburn or Clemson when it matters. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I'm not saying he needs to be Sean McVay but go look at how the Rams call offense in the NFL and compare it to what we do. Somewhere in between that and throwing a gazillion fades is where we need to be.

CJ is on record during fall camp saying they were watching Rams/Stafford tape. They apparently did not install any of what they saw on film. So what was the point of it?
 
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