Trump Presidency Round 2

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Okay let me spell it out for you and I’ll type slower so maybe you’ll get this.

I w a s l a u g h I n g a t t h e s t u p i d i t y o f T r u m p.

Just so I'm clear at the series of events here.

1) The most powerful person in the entire world posted a video that referred to the former president (a black man) as an ape.
2) Nearly everyone is able to call it out as racist - see Tim Scott.
3) IE MAGA folks are silent. (Classic)
4) You post a fake AI tweet that's promoted by altright AI slop accounts.
5) You call me fucking stupid. Despite falling for an fake tweet.
6) You still can't call it racist but are upset (???) at me for not seeing you laughing at the stupidity of Trump.

If Brian Kelly posted a video referring to Willingham as an ape, I find it hard to believe you would be ok with it and arguing with people who think it's a racist video.

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?
 

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The "conversation" here is "understandable" in horrible nearly terrifying ways. Nothing about it is "funny" nor "laughable" in any way to anyone with any maturity or morality. This is about a person with no moral compass at all. He is the Fairy Tale Bully, who enjoys himself so completely, so self-wallowing, that he will do anything, purposely, to aggrandize himself preferably at other peoples' expense. This is (chillingly) the textbook definition of a psychopath. ... he deliberately hurts others for the pleasure of doing so.

To maximize his ability to bully and put people down and even ruin them if he can, the more power he can accrue the "better." And he'll stop at nothing for that bullying power --- over people, but even countries, certainly memories and history. I've watched this monster grow. His impersonation of Nero burning down the past and renaming them after himself, (he once announced to Israelis meeting him at a sacred place that he apparently, was "The Chosen One." Thanks be to GOD that didn't "take.") He recently stated that no one had done more for religion than him. No one had projected more Peace.

I've tried to think of his equal in recent history. Not Hitler, who he did say he admired as a forceful person, Hitler was a person with a racial bias and a crazy "Vision." Trump has no vision. He lives exactly for this moment's roaring entertainment via power rush. He is, I believe, closest to Stalin --- Power over All. Stalin once said: anyone can come into my office and talk to me. I listen and then I shoot them. He laughed. Some here will find that hilarious.
 

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For the love of God, stick to Dictator-ing and societal ruination and please STFU!

 

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You need better sources that tell you the truth instead of what you want to hear, and you need to start thinking for yourself instead of just parroting tired old tropes without thought. It also appears that I got under your skin and you're still mad three weeks later and lashing out trying to "get even." Good luck with that. Hope it works out for you.
The source is you.

You find common cause with Trump and his current administration.

The people you support and advocate for have demonstrably enabled pedos, pardoned drug traffickers and white collar criminals, enabled a genocide that has included killing and destroying some of the oldest Christian populations and institutions, advocated for restricting the second amendment, summarily executed American citizens and advocated for the use of racial profiling.

I’m not trying to “get even”. I’m just pointing out that you seem to lack any sort or moral compass and sure as shit don’t have any baseline morality that aligns with Catholicism ie Notre Dame.
 
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I've tried to think of his equal in recent history. Not Hitler, who he did say he admired as a forceful person, Hitler was a person with a racial bias and a crazy "Vision." Trump has no vision. He lives exactly for this moment's roaring entertainment via power rush. He is, I believe, closest to Stalin --- Power over All. Stalin once said: anyone can come into my office and talk to me. I listen and then I shoot them. He laughed. Some here will find that hilarious.
Estimates of the number of people killed under Joseph Stalin’s regime vary widely depending on whether the figures include only direct executions or also deaths from famine, forced labor, and deportation. Modern historical consensus, based on Soviet archives declassified after 1991, generally places the number of direct, intentional killings at roughly 3 to 9 million, with some estimates for total excess deaths—including famine and famine-related deaths—ranging between 6 million and 20 million or more.
 

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The source is you.

You find common cause with Trump and his current administration.

The people you support and advocate for have demonstrably enabled pedos, pardoned drug traffickers and white collar criminals, enabled a genocide that has included killing and destroying some of the oldest Christian populations and institutions, advocated for restricting the second amendment, summarily executed American citizens and advocated for the use of racial profiling.

I’m not trying to “get even”. I’m just pointing out that you seem to lack any sort or moral compass and sure as shit don’t have any baseline morality that aligns with Catholicism ie Notre Dame.
Good grief, did you miss the part about getting better sources of info and not just endlessly parroting stupid nonsense? I have no interest in my morality falling in line with Catholicism. I'm not religious. I base my views and morality on rational thought, not mysticism. I don't need religion to tell me stealing and raping and murder are wrong. I THINK for myself, something you sorely lack the ability to do, evidenced by your constant inability to say anything you didn't hear on MSNBC or read in the Socialist Workers of America newsletter, apparently. Now, stop boring me with your whining. Bring something thoughtful and intelligent and original to the discussion or be quiet.
 

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Good grief, did you miss the part about getting better sources of info and not just endlessly parroting stupid nonsense? I have no interest in my morality falling in line with Catholicism. I'm not religious. I base my views and morality on rational thought, not mysticism. I don't need religion to tell me stealing and raping and murder are wrong. I THINK for myself, something you sorely lack the ability to do, evidenced by your constant inability to say anything you didn't hear on MSNBC or read in the Socialist Workers of America newsletter, apparently. Now, stop boring me with your whining. Bring something thoughtful and intelligent and original to the discussion or be quiet.
I see.

So, given your superior intellect and morality based on “rational” thought why then do you choose to align yourself with people and a political movement that is demonstrably comprised of shit bags, has contempt for the constitution, are pedo enablers, pardon criminals and drug traffickers and enables genocide then insist on posting your inane opinions to a forum of one of the premier institutions associated with Catholicism, which you clearly have contempt for in so much as you view it as “mysticism”?
 
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I see.

So, given your superior intellect and morality based on “rational” thought why then do you choose to align yourself with people and a political movement that is demonstrably comprised of shit bags, has contempt for the constitution, are pedo enablers, pardon criminals and drug traffickers and supports genocide then insist on posting your inane opinions to a forum of one of the premier institutions associated with Catholicism, which you clearly have contempt for in so much as you view it as “mysticism”?

I never mentioned nor implied anything about superior intellect nor superior morality. I simply said I wasn't trying to align with Catholicism since I'm not Catholic or religious at all. That being said, my morals and views on ethics are not particularly different from those of your average Christian. They're just derived from rational thought and observation about what works to allow people to live together in a civilization as opposed to following what a religious movement tells me is right and wrong. And I don't have contempt for ND or Catholicism. That's you, once again, assuming something you don't actually know anything about. I just don't believe in anything supernatural or any sort of mysticism. I believe in science and evidence.

As for the rest, that's your political beliefs impacting your ability to discern fact from fiction. All the pedo, shitbag, genocide stuff is your warped opinion. You see and believe the worst about your opponent and anyone who disagrees with your far-left view of the world, while being totally blind to the evil, immoral, unethical stuff from your side. You interpret EVERYTHING through that prism and the prism of racism and have been indoctrinated to parrot the same old tired tropes and innuendo and utter lies, while being completely blind to anything wrong with your side. Your interpretation of things is the problem. You see the speck in the other person's eye and not the beam in your own, as the Bible says. You're the type that swallows whole without question the whole "Nazi! Fascist! Racist! They hate brown people! They want to keep poor people poor!" sort of propaganda without ever learning what the Right actually believes and why.

Now, THAT'S why I have repeatedly told you to stop boring me by repeating the same tired old BS and thoughtless tropes and propaganda, but you seem unable to. Think for yourself. Ask questions instead of parroting nonsense. If you want to have a civil, reasonable discussion about what I actually believe and support, or what Conservatives actually believe and why, as opposed to what the propaganda from the left tells you they believe and why, we can. I'd be glad to. I promise, it'll be enlightening and informative and you'll learn a lot of things you don't currently know.
 
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I've tried to think of his equal in recent history. Not Hitler, who he did say he admired as a forceful person, Hitler was a person with a racial bias and a crazy "Vision." Trump has no vision. He lives exactly for this moment's roaring entertainment via power rush. He is, I believe, closest to Stalin --- Power over All. Stalin once said: anyone can come into my office and talk to me. I listen and then I shoot them. He laughed. Some here will find that hilarious.

1) You're correct that Trump has no vision and just a pawn, but is part of and has the backing of a well organized (mainly pointing to The Heritage Foundation, The Christian Nationalists, and a few other Constitution originalist-driven orgs) and wealthy (mainly pointing to the Tech Bros like Musk, Thiel, and Ellison) consortium behind him. The Architect of Evil, Stephen Miller, is driving a lot of this cruelty across the administration's efforts, especially immigration cruelty. The guy is the consummate misanthrope and white nationalist and really has no need for any brown or black immigrants.



2) This admin and it's continuing Authoritarian efforts and cruelty may not be just like 1930s/1940s Germany but it has many similar characteristics, but again, it's more by a consortium whose white nationalist and uber rich leaders saw an opportunity in Trump to be the MAGA figurehead who could get them into power and an opportunity to start breaking down our current Democracy and Republic; and so far, it has worked out pretty well for them, and Trump has done his job to brainwash about 30-35% of the country.

3) If allowed to continue on its current authoritarian and cruel path, it absolutely can be very similar to 1930s/1940s Germany. We all have to remember, it's early days, and Hitler and the Nazi Party took like 5-6 years before they really solidified complete control, and removed all opposition and then started taking over countries which eventually led to WWII with the invasion of Poland. Right now is very early days for Trump.
(And before you rule out the unthinkable, just note that DHS has plans for 2026 alone to add 23 new detention centers / warehouses to add capacity to hold another 100K detained immigrants on top of the current 73K immigrants already detained. If the admin continues to build up the detained immigrant population at this rate, in 2-3 years, there may be 1-2 million immigrants (and likely some U.S. Citizens who oppose the admin) in detention centers all across America. When you dehumanize a population and let it build up like that (because so far, immigrants are being deported at a pretty low rate compared to how many are detained - Gotta keep CoreCivic and Geo Group happy and making $!) and you realize you can't possibly deport all those people to the countries who have agreed to take some of them, you eventually find yourself with a "problem" and who knows, if this Authoritarian consortium stays in control, what a future admin in this position might do re: a large volume of detained immigrants?)

That's why, without doubt, the upcoming midterm elections, now about 9 months away are crucial as Democrat control of The House and maybe even the Senate via the midterms would derail the current admins complete control over America and their Authoritarian momentum, which is exactly why I firmly believe he and his team will 100% be all over tampering and suppressing the midterm elections. They absolutely are determined to NOT lose one bit of control. We're in for quite the ride over these next 9 months...
 
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Just so I'm clear at the series of events here.

1) The most powerful person in the entire world posted a video that referred to the former president (a black man) as an ape.
2) Nearly everyone is able to call it out as racist - see Tim Scott.
3) IE MAGA folks are silent. (Classic)
4) You post a fake AI tweet that's promoted by altright AI slop accounts.
5) You call me fucking stupid. Despite falling for an fake tweet.
6) You still can't call it racist but are upset (???) at me for not seeing you laughing at the stupidity of Trump.

If Brian Kelly posted a video referring to Willingham as an ape, I find it hard to believe you would be ok with it and arguing with people who think it's a racist video.

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?
1. That was wrong, but I was referring to the second tweet which you seem to keep missing.
2. Never said it was okay or laughed about it.
3. Classic BS from you. We've covered this before. You don't reply to every controversial post made by the left. Your silence is quite telling.
4. Stay focused. Regardless if the second tweet is fake or not, the point is still valid. I'm not laughing about the first or second tweet. I'm laughing at the audacity that Trump would think people would believe that. Why is that hard for you to comprehend?
5. Yes. I made it clear that I was refering to the second tweet.
6. Refer to #3. Not commenting on a tweet doesn't mean it's an endorsement or that I agree with it. When I see you commenting on all of the controversial BS being spouted by your beloved left, then we'll have a discission about what post should or shouldn't be commeted on.

Trump is saying he won't apologize for the tweet, because it was a staff member that sent it, not him. If it wasn't him the staff member needs to be fired. We don't need those type of posts.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again. My hiring practices are clear evidence that I'm not a bigot or racist.

You go ahead and wrap this up with your BS. I've been clear and I'm not wasting anymore time on this.
 
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I see.

So, given your superior intellect and morality based on “rational” thought why then do you choose to align yourself with people and a political movement that is demonstrably comprised of shit bags, has contempt for the constitution, are pedo enablers, pardon criminals and drug traffickers and enables genocide then insist on posting your inane opinions to a forum of one of the premier institutions associated with Catholicism, which you clearly have contempt for in so much as you view it as “mysticism”?
Are you talking about the Democrats or Republicans? Whether you want to admit it or not, your statement could be applied to either party.
 

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1. That was wrong, but I was referring to the second tweet which you seem to keep missing.
2. Never said it was okay or laughed about it.
3. Classic BS from you. We've covered this before. You don't reply to every controversial post made by the left. Your silence is quite telling.
4. Stay focused. Regardless if the second tweet is fake or not, the point is still valid. I'm not laughing about the first or second tweet. I'm laughing at the audacity that Trump would think people would believe that. Why is that hard for you to comprehend?
5. Yes. I made it clear that I was refering to the second tweet.
6. Refer to #3. Not commenting on a tweet doesn't mean it's an endorsement or that I agree with it. When I see you commenting on all of the controversial BS being spouted by your beloved left, then we'll have a discission about what post should or shouldn't be commeted on.

Trump is saying he won't apologize for the tweet, because it was a staff member that sent it, not him. If it wasn't him the staff member needs to be fired. We don't need those type of posts.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again. My hiring practices are clear evidence that I'm not a bigot or racist.

You go ahead and wrap this up with your BS. I've been clear and I'm not wasting anymore time on this.
You literally demanded a response from me a month ago lol. But I’m not allowed to comment on the silence?

You fell for a fake tweet, again. We don’t need to step into the make believe world of Jane Goodall.

I’m not asking you if you’re a racist or a bigot, so don’t get worked up over that.

Do you think that Trump is a racist? Just a simple yes or no.
 

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.... just to be clear on my take: I do NOT subscribe to the conspiracy position in post number 9071 above.

My assessment is that this POTUS runs his own life and always has, as a spoiled egocentric hedonist (utterly self-oriented and beyond any "law" other than something more powerful than he is.) He was "gifted" with enough power to begin in life plus big time brain ability to be what psychiatry calls high-function psychopathy. He fell into the exact schtick he needed when he discovered how silently angry 25% of the US population was. They became his useful tool-to-power despite him never having given an iota of shit about them. So he plays that audience incessantly. He was also remarkably enabled by the "other party" which got so lost in their own extreme biases and visions that they seemed an alien loudmouthed entitled crowd of bizarros about half the time. Finally waking up from too much "woke", they found that they no longer had any sensible attractive leaders to oppose the Raging Entertainer.

Dark Forces of many sorts find the Greedy Orange Pig (THE GOP currently in the Flesh) very "handy" to play their nasty games with, but no one has "created" Trump, and he always scratches his own itches.
 

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Estimates of the number of people killed under Joseph Stalin’s regime vary widely depending on whether the figures include only direct executions or also deaths from famine, forced labor, and deportation. Modern historical consensus, based on Soviet archives declassified after 1991, generally places the number of direct, intentional killings at roughly 3 to 9 million, with some estimates for total excess deaths—including famine and famine-related deaths—ranging between 6 million and 20 million or more.
Thanks for the history lesson.
 

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Thanks for the history lesson.
You're welcome.

A classic case of TDS. Upon careful consideration, Trump is very similar to Stalin. Really? The Communist Dictator responsible for the deaths of millions. Further TDS demonstrated by Orange Pig statement in 9075. Tired old garbage. So ridiculous and lacking rational thought.

Orange Man Bad. Yeah, we know how you think.
 

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You're welcome.

A classic case of TDS. Upon careful consideration, Trump is very similar to Stalin. Really? The Communist Dictator responsible for the deaths of millions. Further TDS demonstrated by Orange Pig statement in 9075. Tired old garbage. So ridiculous and lacking rational thought.

Orange Man Bad. Yeah, we know how you think.
You’re such a dipshit. Trump is already responsible for over 700,000 deaths due to cuts in USAID. Long term projections are expected to be between 14 million and 22 million deaths by 2030. The majority of these deaths are children. So take your TDS dildo and shove it up your ass.
 

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So the claims about Trump kicking Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago and them having a falling out are bullshit. Shocker.
 

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So the claims about Trump kicking Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago and them having a falling out are bullshit. Shocker.

Don't expect anyone to be upset when it comes out.

He literally posted a video of a black person being shown as an ape and not a single IE MAGA person to say it was racist. They are too far gone. Trump could literally fuck a child and they would question if being 16 is really that bad, or somehow blame Biden/Dems for it. Don't worry though, they'll be sure to argue the semantics of it and when you ask them to clarify they'll disappear. You just parrot MSNBC, not like them as they get duped weekly by AI slop and are too embarrassed to own it.
 

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You’re such a dipshit. Trump is already responsible for over 700,000 deaths due to cuts in USAID. Long term projections are expected to be between 14 million and 22 million deaths by 2030. The majority of these deaths are children. So take your TDS dildo and shove it up your ass.
Trump is responsible for over 700k deaths of children! Fuck yes!! We need ICE to step it up as well. Have to catch Stalin.

Thanks for making my point. You're not rooted in reality. Merely curious, though-what have YOU done to combat the drop in US AID funds? Donating your time? Traveling to famine-infested areas to provide relief? I'll wager you have done shit-all nothing except state: Orange Man bad.
 

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Don't expect anyone to be upset when it comes out.

He literally posted a video of a black person being shown as an ape and not a single IE MAGA person to say it was racist. They are too far gone. Trump could literally fuck a child and they would question if being 16 is really that bad, or somehow blame Biden/Dems for it. Don't worry though, they'll be sure to argue the semantics of it and when you ask them to clarify they'll disappear. You just parrot MSNBC, not like them as they get duped weekly by AI slop and are too embarrassed to own it.
You have problems. Please continue to stay North of the Border.
 

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Trump is responsible for over 700k deaths of children! Fuck yes!! We need ICE to step it up as well. Have to catch Stalin.

Thanks for making my point. You're not rooted in reality. Merely curious, though-what have YOU done to combat the drop in US AID funds? Donating your time? Traveling to famine-infested areas to provide relief? I'll wager you have done shit-all nothing except state: Orange Man bad.
I spend 2 days each week volunteering at the St. Vincent de Paul Society. I’ve also donated more money to St.Jude Children’s Research Hospital than you’ve earned in the last decade. I doubt you’ve ever volunteered your time or money for any cause due to your innate selfishness and complete lack of morality. Typical Republican.
 

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Don't expect anyone to be upset when it comes out.

He literally posted a video of a black person being shown as an ape and not a single IE MAGA person to say it was racist. They are too far gone. Trump could literally fuck a child and they would question if being 16 is really that bad, or somehow blame Biden/Dems for it. Don't worry though, they'll be sure to argue the semantics of it and when you ask them to clarify they'll disappear. You just parrot MSNBC, not like them as they get duped weekly by AI slop and are too embarrassed to own it.
I called the video stupid. I guess I should have called it racist as well. If you want to make a silly video about Trump being king of the jungle, don't make anyone a primate. Blacks across the world have been called that for centuries. Even having Biden as a baboon is inappropriate. Make them weak looking zebras or scurrying animals or something.

I have no problem with the donkeys as that's literally the Dems mascot.
 

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I spend 2 days each week volunteering at the St. Vincent de Paul Society. I’ve also donated more money to St.Jude Children’s Research Hospital than you’ve earned in the last decade. I doubt you’ve ever volunteered your time or money for any cause due to your innate selfishness and complete lack of morality. Typical Republican.
My wife loves Mission 27. We end up there a couple of times a month.
 

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I called the video stupid. I guess I should have called it racist as well. If you want to make a silly video about Trump being king of the jungle, don't make anyone a primate. Blacks across the world have been called that for centuries. Even having Biden as a baboon is inappropriate. Make them weak looking zebras or scurrying animals or something.

I have no problem with the donkeys as that's literally the Dems mascot.

This is a good take. Honestly, I have no issue with Biden as a baboon tbh. It's literally an age old racist trope to call black people apes.

I'm sure this take required no courage and just common sense. Guess this is the deciding line between a Republican and just plain degenerate MAGA.
 

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I spend 2 days each week volunteering at the St. Vincent de Paul Society. I’ve also donated more money to St.Jude Children’s Research Hospital than you’ve earned in the last decade. I doubt you’ve ever volunteered your time or money for any cause due to your innate selfishness and complete lack of morality. Typical Republican.
So, you've done something-keep filling up the Unicef carton. (y) However, you're not going to the poverty-stricken U.S. Aid locations and instead of placing your money where your mouth is, you'd rather spend your big playa bucks on NYC concerts. You give your money to U.S. Aid Big Money Player. I'll pass on the fraud, waste, and abuse.

Congrats on the cash.

I do think you're full of shit, though.
 

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So, you've done something-keep filling up the Unicef carton. (y) However, you're not going to the poverty-stricken U.S. Aid locations and instead of placing your money where your mouth is, you'd rather spend your big playa bucks on NYC concerts. You give your money to U.S. Aid Big Money Player. I'll pass on the fraud, waste, and abuse.

Congrats on the cash.

I do think you're full of shit, though.
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So, you've done something-keep filling up the Unicef carton. (y) However, you're not going to the poverty-stricken U.S. Aid locations and instead of placing your money where your mouth is, you'd rather spend your big playa bucks on NYC concerts. You give your money to U.S. Aid Big Money Player. I'll pass on the fraud, waste, and abuse.

Congrats on the cash.

I do think you're full of shit, though.
What kind of fucking loser gatekeeps donations? You keep finding a new low.
 
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