2025 College Football Playoffs

BleedBlueGold

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I truly believe that if Virginia had won, they would've treated BYU and Bama the same. Either dropping them both or keeping both the same. The threat of not having an ACC team meant that the Committee had to do some creative accounting.

I agree. I think if VA won, Bama could've safely dropped to 10, ND at 9, and VA could've represented the ACC as the 11th seed. Not dropping Alabama is the tell. It's a dead giveaway that the committee was in this to protect P4 revenue, because the only way they could conceivably get the ACC in was to flip Miami and ND after dropping BYU.

The committee backed themselves into that position by over representing the SEC this year. If they truly are trying to protect P4 revenue (which, yes, of course they are), then they should stick with 3 B1G, 3 SEC, and one from each Big12 and ACC in the primary rankings. That leaves 4 spots to fill as they desire. The SEC got greedy after "only" having 3 teams represent last year.

The debut poll had six SEC teams in the top 12, three from the B1G, and two from the Big12. The highest ACC member was Virginia at 14. Miami was 18th in the first release. Knowing that the G5 would take at least a spot, the committee did themselves zero favors by circle jerking the SEC from day 1. Then they had an "oh shit" moment and had to put a P4 ACC team in at the eleventh hour so that conference could still get paid.
 
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Bottom line, college football has changed for the worst and there is really no sign of it getting better. Every time I hear "join a conference," I see it coming from the mouth of some schmuck who's content selling their soul for idols: money, fame, trophies, etc.

I'm am no longer shocked by the immense level of brain rot within people. This country is a dumpster fire of stupidity and idiocracy. The powers that be only care about more money and more power. They easily dupe the mindless idiots who ingest their propaganda. It is so telling that any and every Disney/ESPN/ABC affiliate lobbied against ND, but those who work for FOX and others who are more independent media actually told the truth about it. It's rinse, repeat in every aspect of American lives.

Notre Dame got pushed out of the playoffs because of Disney/ESPN, the SEC, and the ACC stood to lose money. The number of pundits who have flat out admitted to this ("The committee did not want to leave out the ACC. This is because of Duke winning. And you can't punish Alabama." bla bla bla). Just wait. They will change the rules to exclude the G5 next year. They will increase the playoffs to 16 teams. And that will only open up the floodgates for more of this bullshit because they'll favor teams like Texas, Michigan, and USC over ND. More B1G and SEC teams will move into the conversation with a few bones thrown to the Big12 and ACC. ND will continue to get treated like trash. Not because ND is trash. Not because they think less of ND. But because ND has the nerve (and ability) to stand against the power structure and "steal" money, they feel is owed to them and to them alone.

To any mouth breathing troll out in the world who hates ND, maybe just sit this one out.
Man, I'm so with you on this.

College football punditry is being led right now by frat boy douche bags on Saturday mornings who are as bad as they are insufferable. There is no counting for good college football media anymore. There just doesn't seem to be a beacon of light anywhere.

"We will have the seedings revealed in moments" said Rece Davis. 15 minutes later, I still haven't seen a seed revealed.

College football is really the least of our problems. We're stuck in a sea of greed and ignorance at every turn. Sports used to be an escape. Not so much anymore.

I wish ND had fixed their defense at halftime of the TAMU game instead of the Purdue game. It was one week too late in the end. That being said, we were misled for weeks thinking we would get in. Once BYU and Bama lost, I really thought it was a done deal. I'd have taken the 10th seed without issue.
 

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Honest question.

What was keeping them from moving Duke to 25 and ranking them and putting them in over JMU? then ACC has a team at 12.
 

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Honest question.

What was keeping them from moving Duke to 25 and ranking them and putting them in over JMU? then ACC has a team at 12.
As much as the committee's moves this past week ruined their credibility, but putting a 5 loss Duke team in the top 25 would've been even worse.
 

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Who Gives a *&^% if we will have a better chance next year with new rules or in the future at 16 teams?
This was our year. We havent been this loaded in decades.
We have Love, Fields, Pauling, Raridon, etc. for the last time.
The field is especially weak.
We will never get back the millions we will lose.
I hope we completely burn the ACC to the ground in vengeance. Any $$$$ they made from Miami being in I hope they lose 10fold when we pull out and the dominoes fall.
 

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The join a conference bit doesn't really make sense when you consider Duke won theirs and the committee sent Miami, who wasn't even in the conference championship game.
This. None of the idiots saying join a conference have a response other than “you would’ve been in had you been in the ACC
 

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This. None of the idiots saying join a conference have a response other than “you would’ve been in had you been in the ACC
I'm sure some team in a conference can equal or surpass the value ND would have brought to accepting a bowl bid.
 

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The join a conference bit doesn't really make sense when you consider Duke won theirs and the committee sent Miami, who wasn't even in the conference championship game.

See LAX's post for a basic thought exercise to anyone who says "join a conference."

It's not because of the "13th data point." It's not because you can win the CCG.

It's 1000% because you get the full weight of the propaganda machine that is ESPN behind you. If people want to sell their souls to get on board with that, fine. Admit it and move on. But you then cannot hate on someone (ND) who chooses to stick to their principles. And honestly, there might come a time when ND is forced to make the decision. But until that time, if the admin is choosing to hold out, then I support that. What happened yesterday only further cemented that mindset. (If the time comes to sell out, then I hope it's with Fox just to spite ESPN/SEC/ACC jerkoffs.)
 

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There's little i would trade the magic of last year for, but this comes close. Last year we overachieved drastically with guys like Leonard and Kiser that I will love until the day I die, but we had no chance against Ohio St with the way they were playing.

This year.......we had a legit chance to win the whole thing and it was stolen from us. Just completely heartbroken.

I know first world problems and I should get over it, but
 

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They should have let the players cool off for 24 hours before voting.

Pop Tarts Bowl has a 3 million payout per team.
I think I mentioned it in one of these threads that Notre Dame is now a very pissed off university with a very pissed off fan base with some very pissed off donors. $3 million is easily attainable with all the pissing of offs going on in South Bend right now. If I were Notre Dame I would be out spending everyone. 2026 should be the revenge tours of all revenge tours.
 

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Worth listening to Dellenger and Godfrey. Dellenger is probably the biggest unaffiliated to ESPN insider and Godfrey hates TV networks and super conferences more than anyone.

Should also listen to Godfrey’s podcast series Who Killed College Football if you have free time or still believe in things such as CFP criteria and buffers

This was good, but it did reaffirm my belief that Andy Staples is a giant douche and I would rather eat a Glock than voluntarily ever listen to him and Ari Wasserman on a podcast together.
 

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Being the history nerd I am, and in honor of our WWII veterans, would be great if this has a total opposite impact and turns into "a day that will live in infamy" (Had to with the anniversary of Pearl Harbor just yesterday)

Hopefully this just awakens a sleeping giant just like the Japanese did
 

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We would've spent at least half of that 3 million in costs associated with travel and attendance to the game. My guess is we would've netted 1 million dollars. Maybe not even that.

If we would've went , there would've probably been some commentary reminding us that ND doesn't have to share bowl payments with conference members. Evil Evil Notre Dame.
 

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Being the history nerd I am, and in honor of our WWII veterans, would be great if this has a total opposite impact and turns into "a day that will live in infamy" (Had to with the anniversary of Pearl Harbor just yesterday)

Hopefully this just awakens a sleeping giant just like the Japanese did

Had a similar thought. The Axis of Mickey is going to regret it
 

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I am starting to get pissed at the lack of bite coming from ND and its influence. Pete better be fire and brimstone at noon, or I will get even more pissed.

Everybody keeps saying that “the committee sits down and ranks from scratch every week” as the excuse to suddenly drop us.

But this makes no sense.

From that dumbass Yurachek’s own mouth, he claimed that last week the committee believed “ND is better than BYU, and BYU is better than Miami, so that’s why they were ranked that way.”

Ok, so then by EVERY LOGICAL DEFINITION OF THE UNIVERSE, that you learn in grade school, ND is better than Miami.

Is defies all logic known to man that you can suddenly swap them based on the same data, UNLESS the original point wasn’t ever true.

Additionally, last season the committee said “idle teams are done being compared, only the conference champ teams will be compared.”

But this year, last week, we were told this wasn’t true which telegraphed their move. This was clearly discussed in the committee meetings. They absolutely 100% discussed that a BYU loss would put Miami and ND head to head the following week when they jumped Bama and slotted BYU in between.

So what does this all mean?

The committee is NOT truly ranking teams anymore. Instead there is concrete proof that they are playing out narratives and engaging conspiracy rather than sitting down and ranking teams 1 thru 25.

NOBODY is talking about this, and it’s causing me to rage
 
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