2025 College Football Playoffs

[jprue24]

Of course it's not the same conversation. You can't shit on ND when you're talking about Louisville.

Edit: Ari being a bitch in the replies is everything.

The is an all-timer

 

[Dale]

new weekly clickbait dropped

 

[Bane]

The is an all-timer

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"And another thing, I don't care who gets in. Please don't put in the papers that I care who gets in!"

 

[Irishdwarte]

Suddenly they’ve found nuance with how teams are ranked.

Ari is a twat.

 

[Huntr]

The is an all-timer

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A personal fave:

 

[MacIrish75]

A personal fave:

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Ari Wasserman:

Complains about process he decries as subjective with claim that his assertion is objective.

 

[Dale]

Vanderbilt fans have also been very mad

As a Vandy fan just enjoy the wins and don’t think too hard about how LSU is a dumpster fire and Mizzou’s QB got hurt

 

[ab2cmiller]

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LMAO at the "black and white". There is literally nothing "black and white" when discussing any teams from 6 on down.

There are strengths and weaknesses to all. Nuance abounds. No black and white.

If Ari claims it's black and white, he's an idiot.

 

[NDPhilly]

Suddenly they’ve found nuance with how teams are ranked.

These replies lmao

 

[NotKoon]

Has there even been a more typical fat kid who never played a sport, but watched 10 hours of ESPN a day so he thinks he’s an expert than Ari Wasserman

 

[Dale]

 

[Wild Bill]

Texas and their fans shouldn’t have anything to say about their ranking other than thank you. They squeaked past Kentucky, Mississippi State (should’ve lost), and vandy at home - and prior to that, they lost to a putrid Florida team. They’d be paying more attention to Tx bball rather than football right now if mateer hadn’t been hurt when they played OK.

If they win out, they’re in, and they’ll probably even host a playoff game, which is kind of shocking considering how shitty they’ve looked against anyone with a pulse.

 

[Bane]

Vanderbilt fans have also been very mad

As a Vandy fan just enjoy the wins and don’t think too hard about how LSU is a dumpster fire and Mizzou’s QB got hurt

Texas and their fans shouldn’t have anything to say about their ranking other than thank you. They squeaked past Kentucky, Mississippi State (should’ve lost), and vandy at home - and prior to that, they lost to a putrid Florida team. They’d be paying more attention to Tx bball rather than football right now if mateer hadn’t been hurt when they played OK.

If they win out, they’re in, and they’ll probably even host a playoff game, which is kind of shocking considering how shitty they’ve looked against anyone with a pulse.

I've noticed most of the crying about rankings and kvetching about ND (other than from Miami fans) has come from non-traditional powers' fanbases: BYU, Texas Tech, and Vandy. Last year it was Iowa St. and IU. The Little Brother Energy is strong and extremely obnoxious.

I'm sure there are Texas fans complaining about their ranking, but I haven't seen much of them. I've some OU people, but not a lot. I think fans of both of those programs know that if they win out they'll probably be in and honestly both have probably been frustrated with their own teams' performances this season.

 

[burmafrd1944]

This possibly just got easy. I believe that all we need is to win out, and root for both Alabama and Georgia to eliminate Texas and Oklahoma this week. Then, no matter what happens with the Tech/BYU dance, we're still in. The committee likes us. They are not going to let any three loss team in over us. They're definitely not letting in two ACCs.

all we ever needed to do was win out. That has not changed

 

[NDFAN2008]

Mark Rhoads stepping down wonder how this affects things.

 

[LifelongFan]

A&M probably eliminates Texas but Georgia winning would be nice. I would like Vanderbilt to lose one more for comfort reasons but I don't think a win over Tennessee moves anyone too much.

Need USC to keep winning, which is tough to root for.

 

[stlnd01]

A&M probably eliminates Texas but Georgia winning would be nice. I would like Vanderbilt to lose one more for comfort reasons but I don't think a win over Tennessee moves anyone too much.

Need USC to keep winning, which is tough to root for.

Yep it’s annoying but the by far best thing for our seeding would be USC winning out. Would knock Oregon down (perhaps out) and give us win over, likely, a playoff team.

 

[Irish du Nord]

If Purdue beats IU, I’ll ride a unicorn down I-65 to Indy in assless chaps, stop in Lafayette to swipe that shitty old bucket, and hand deliver it to you.

Yeah I’d be pretty excited too, but I can’t say I’d do that!

 

[SWirishfan]

Yeah I’d be pretty excited too, but I can’t say I’d do that!

It makes me wonder which of the 4 elements is the red line that M. du Nord won't cross.

 

[Irish du Nord]

It makes me wonder which of the 4 elements is the red line that du Nord won't cross.

Do I look like a thief???

 

[Dale]

I know he’s a Miami grad but Bear has been surprisingly anti ND. Top 40 is such a BS arbitrary line to draw. The difference between the #40 team and #49 team NC State in Sagarin for example is almost irrelevant, it’s 2 points. Whereas the difference between 10 and 20 is wide, 5 points for example. ND beat Arkansas and NC State who lie in the Top 50. If he would have marked it there it’s a whole other stat. Or let’s stop it at 25 or 30? But FSU, USF, and UF are right outside the top 30. Huh.

40 is extra dumb because as Bear probably knows Sagarin ranks FCS programs. Freakin NDSU is in the Top 40 of Sagarin. You would have to go in the 60s for Top 1/3 of FBS.

 

[ozzman]

I know he’s a Miami grad but Bear has been surprisingly anti ND. Top 40 is such a BS arbitrary line to draw. The difference between the #40 team and #49 team NC State in Sagarin for example is almost irrelevant, it’s 2 points. Whereas the difference between 10 and 20 is wide, 5 points for example. ND beat Arkansas and NC State who lie in the Top 50. If he would have marked it there it’s a whole other stat

40 is extra dumb because as Bear probably knows Sagarin ranks FCS programs. Freakin NDSU is in the Top 40 of Sagarin. You would have to go in the 60s for Top 1/3 of FBS.

Surprisingly? He is anti ND any chance he gets

 

[Dale]

Surprisingly? He is anti ND any chance he gets

Never been NDs #1 fan, but in years past I feel like he’s been more self deprecating towards his Miami fandom.

 

[Huntr]

The whole argument comes down to "the committee judges things differently."

They want it to be one way, but it's the other.

 

[sixstar]

cool, now let's talk about game control and margin of victory. it's not just about who you play, it's also about how you play them.

 

[ab2cmiller]

cool, now let's talk about game control and margin of victory. it's not just about who you play, it's also about how you play them.

Agreed.

However, I guarantee if ND beat multiple top 40 or top 20 teams and there was another team that we were battling for a spot that had only beat one we would be screaming bloody murder. That’s the way fandom works.

 

[SWirishfan]

Do I look like a thief???

My money was on the final delivery.
This is why I don't bet real money anymore.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

I know he’s a Miami grad but Bear has been surprisingly anti ND. Top 40 is such a BS arbitrary line to draw. The difference between the #40 team and #49 team NC State in Sagarin for example is almost irrelevant, it’s 2 points. Whereas the difference between 10 and 20 is wide, 5 points for example. ND beat Arkansas and NC State who lie in the Top 50. If he would have marked it there it’s a whole other stat. Or let’s stop it at 25 or 30? But FSU, USF, and UF are right outside the top 30. Huh.

40 is extra dumb because as Bear probably knows Sagarin ranks FCS programs. Freakin NDSU is in the Top 40 of Sagarin. You would have to go in the 60s for Top 1/3 of FBS.

Ask him where he's putting his money this weekend ND or Pitt? Then you'll get a real answer.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

cool, now let's talk about game control and margin of victory. it's not just about who you play, it's also about how you play them.

Chop this up so it fits on a bumper sticker.

Amen.

 

[Bane]

I know he’s a Miami grad but Bear has been surprisingly anti ND. Top 40 is such a BS arbitrary line to draw. The difference between the #40 team and #49 team NC State in Sagarin for example is almost irrelevant, it’s 2 points. Whereas the difference between 10 and 20 is wide, 5 points for example. ND beat Arkansas and NC State who lie in the Top 50. If he would have marked it there it’s a whole other stat. Or let’s stop it at 25 or 30? But FSU, USF, and UF are right outside the top 30. Huh.

40 is extra dumb because as Bear probably knows Sagarin ranks FCS programs. Freakin NDSU is in the Top 40 of Sagarin. You would have to go in the 60s for Top 1/3 of FBS.

The whole argument comes down to "the committee judges things differently."

They want it to be one way, but it's the other.

cool, now let's talk about game control and margin of victory. it's not just about who you play, it's also about how you play them.

Yeah, all of these arguments always come down to the person with an axe to grind using a selective range of criteria (or their one favorite pet metric that just so happens to love their team) and pounding the table about how it should be the most important criteria.

ND is on a 7 game win streak with an average margin of victory of what, 26.5 points? We haven't just been beating teams, we've been demolishing them.

This doesn't apply to Bear or Miami fans generally, but at the risk of sounding like an elitist (not that I really care), what I've been seeing out of fans of non-traditional powers like BYU or Texas Tech is a group of people who haven't really seriously had to engage in these sorts of arguments in decades, if ever, so they just look at like the NFL. Team A has more wins than Team B or whatever and just try to make this black and white issue out of it when that just doesn't work in CFB. There's no perfect way to dice this all up either, that's just CFB.