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If you presuppose that she plays exactly like she does in normal competitive play.... I might be able to get one double fault off of her. Would that count?
‘26 GA QB Teddy Jarrard (Notre Dame Signee)
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Do I think the high school team beat Ball State? No not at all. Do I think that the south has the best high school players hands down? Absolutely. I grew up in the Midwest and played ball there. The kids in the south live for football. There is really no other sport. There’s a reason why the SEC is a dominant as a last decades and why the teams that win that are not in the south geographically try to get southern kids on their team.
Doesn’t matter. You won’t understand unless you live in the south and see it firsthand
Doesn’t matter. You won’t understand unless you live in the south and see it firsthand
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I’m not reading all that nonsense. Are we still panicking about Teddy?
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Not as long as we play Ball State
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I kinda get King B's point though. Knapp did beat out several guys who had been in ND's strength and conditioning program for several years to become a starter at LT here after relatively little time in the program, so he most certainly would be better than any OL Ball St would have just walking in the door. Knapp was recently mentioned on that Athletic Freaks list. Not a stretch to think that he could at least compete with Ball St D lineman as a high school senior, he went against ND's Dline in practice as an 18 year old. And he wasn't the highest rated OL guy coming out of Georgia that year.
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Still don't. How many Knapp's/Hamiltons/etc. are there any given year? Those are 2-3 starter quality guys that could maybe start literally day 1 on Ball state. There's a whole roster of other dudes who have to take the field, and the overall offensive and defensive scheme that Ball State will run would smoke the high school team.
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Would Teddy beat a team of Skyline Chili All-Stars? Did i do that right?
My lord, 1st game can't get here quick enough...
My lord, 1st game can't get here quick enough...
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I might not score a point off her in tennis, but I’ll pin her in wrestling!
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Bingo...you get it, and was able to articulate it better than me. Also Knapp wasn't some 5* generational talent. I know for a fact GA could put together 22 kids to beat Ball state, and Knapp wouldn't even be a substitute. They have "Kyle Hamiltons" every year. KJ Bolden #1 safety in '24, 25 nationally (3rd in the state) would be fine against Ball St offense. Caleb Downs and Khalil Barnes in the '23 class both freshman all Americans one at Clemson one at Bama. Malaki Starks in '22 first rounder for the ravens.
Hamilton wasn't some once in a lifetime safety. It's every year down here, and again...if you know you know. If you don't, oh well I'm fine with the shots. God forbid a bunch of guys talk sports and hypotheticals on a message board.
Ga kids 45
Ball St 17
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Good to know you think so little of Kyle Hamilton
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When did I say that?
7 of the top 10 Ga High Schoolers from Hamilton's 2019 class are in the NFL. Ball State has 3 total......LOLOLOL
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Only Downs is as good as Hamilton in that list. I think the problem is they don’t have Anthony Knapps every year, let alone 5 Anthonie Knapps. Almost all the other OLinemen redshirted in his class from GA
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It was not an every day occurrence, but back when they used to play the College All Stars vs the defending NFL champs for charity, the All Stars won a few. Just looked it up, and in 1963 the College All Stars beat Lombardi's NFL champion Packers, led by Bart Starr and a bunch of All Pros on their roster.
So not beyond the pale of reality that a bunch of 18 yo studs could compete with the likes of Ball State......
So not beyond the pale of reality that a bunch of 18 yo studs could compete with the likes of Ball State......
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The hypothetical isn’t awful for an off-season, this idea that you are part of a fraternity of ball knowledge exclusive to being a GA resident is dumb.
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So I buckled and asked a GA high school football coach and here was his response.
"College kids are just built different, as great as these guys are they are still just kids. So to answer your question if it's one game in September Ball St wins. If they play 10 weeks in a row, you may see the gap close in games 7-10 and the kids could steal a few. But apples to apples if you let the GA kids progress to soph and even juniors in college and then play that game, they win and they win big".
"College kids are just built different, as great as these guys are they are still just kids. So to answer your question if it's one game in September Ball St wins. If they play 10 weeks in a row, you may see the gap close in games 7-10 and the kids could steal a few. But apples to apples if you let the GA kids progress to soph and even juniors in college and then play that game, they win and they win big".
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Don't miss the point Dale. I didn't say that, what I said was.....If I'm debating about GA High School kids and 99% of the board is on the other side but HAS NEVER WATCHED a high school football game in GA, it carries less weight. I watched 4 HS football games over the weekend, and will watch a bunch more before it's all said and done...So if someone else is watching like that and disagrees, it makes more sense. But the guy that is use to watching HS football in KY coming at me like I'm crazy it's like...whoa whoa whoa....this isn't KY if that's all you know.
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You haven’t said it but you’re acting like it lol. Every post has this, “like you guys don’t even get it” vibe to it that is lame and doesn’t help the point
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Well, I don't wanna come off like that. But you have to see what I mean. It would be like a Pitt fan coming on here and trying to tell us about ND football one way or another. I'm not saying certain people don't know, but I'd be curious if the people that disagree have ever watched a high school football game against two GA powerhouses. I mean, you guys should have...One was just on ESPN to kick off the season.
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Ball State being the "could get beat by a high school squad" in these hypothetical situations is killing my inner cardinal. How far we have fallen since Brady Hoke. (Won our only MAC title ever during the Covid year so it barely even counts. 😢)
*sad chirp noises*
*sad chirp noises*
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Did I say Ball St, I meant Kent St
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I think people have forgotten that same Ball (so hard) St. almost beat us in 2018. I know because I was there, it was one of the most painful wins I've ever witnessed.
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Michigan, There is a great documentary. I want to say it's called FLINT TOWN. I may have been a series.
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What does this have to do with Teddy Jarrard?
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You’re telling me you don’t want a qb that can beat Ball State as a freshman with a couple receivers from Valdosta High AND boil water? The fuck are we even doing here?
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway? It was an odd pop culture reference...
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The guy out of Pittsburgh talking crazy about GA football.
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I wouldn't call it crazy talk, I talked to one of Knapps old coaches today and he said that with a month of preparation he'd take 30 kids from GA over Ball St. He pointed out the top 50 players are 4* and up, and he feels the talent gap would be too great. But he'd only take them with a month of prep and a good coach. 🤷🏻
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Knapp wasn’t slated to start. He got his break because of a couple of injuries.
For you youngsters, a group of collegiate all stars used to play an NFL team every year. Mind you these were seniors and the best in the country. They had four years of development. IIRC they won once or twice, but usually got handled.
No one questions the amount of talent in the south, but to dismiss other areas of the country is being shortsighted. It was only about five years ago the MIC in the Indy area was rated the second best conference in the country only behind one in California. I think everyone would agree that the talent in the south five years ago was pretty good.
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Sounds biased.