Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

Brian Kelly Revisited


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forkbeard3777

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Not sure how you could trust Miles to go undefeated as he never did it while at LSU despite having one of the most talented rosters year in & year out.
2011 - we just got shafted with having to face a team we previously beat, at their house, in the NC. Oh yeah, we also had to beat a good Georgia team into oblivion in the SEC Championship game while Alabama kicked their feet back and rested up. Sometimes football isn't a fair game....But, I largely agree. Miles wasn't a great coach or game manager....yet, I still would somewhat prefer him to Kelly. :unsure:
 

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Admittedly, with the season (thankfully) around the corner, I've really been reading and listening to a lot of LSU media. I'm sure it's the echo chamber effect. However, for clarity, I'm bullish on the talent* assembled at LSU, but I'm bearish on the head coach.

* My one concern - and it's a big one - is the offensive line play. That said, they weren't that great last year and I think/hope they can at least maintain that level of play.

ETA: I know you all are going to greatly enjoy bumping this thread throughout the season why ND is likely coasting to another Playoff appearance. ;)
 

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2011 - we just got shafted with having to face a team we previously beat, at their house, in the NC. Oh yeah, we also had to beat a good Georgia team into oblivion in the SEC Championship game while Alabama kicked their feet back and rested up. Sometimes football isn't a fair game....But, I largely agree. Miles wasn't a great coach or game manager....yet, I still would somewhat prefer him to Kelly. :unsure:
Les was not a bad coach for his first 7 years at LSU.

Saban just broke him.
 

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Admittedly, with the season (thankfully) around the corner, I've really been reading and listening to a lot of LSU media. I'm sure it's the echo chamber effect. However, for clarity, I'm bullish on the talent* assembled at LSU, but I'm bearish on the head coach.

* My one concern - and it's a big one - is the offensive line play. That said, they weren't that great last year and I think/hope they can at least maintain that level of play.
You guys dodged a bullet with the Nussmeier scare. There was a rumor flying around for a bit his ACL was torn
 

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I’m always disappointed when I open this thread to see there is nothing new and we’re having the same circular discussion about how BK wins the easy games and can’t win the big ones. Kind of like your buddies bringing up how your ex sucked and you know that, but does that discussion need to be had repeatedly? Anyways, rinse repeat Fork, yes we understand the collection of talent that LSU has and yes we know that BK is a steady hand. I genuinely find LSU interesting but man BK is black hole of personality.

(Fuck, I’ve become that meme of the guy who complains about a discussion but then actually comments on the discussion lmao)
 

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You guys dodged a bullet with the Nussmeier scare. There was a rumor flying around for a bit his ACL was torn
Yup. I heard about that. From what I’ve read, they’ve said it’s nothing and precautionary. That being said, still a little worrisome as certain coaches and medical staff are known to hide the severity of injuries 😬
 

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Now that I've defended him in this thread, I have to come and address this obvious BS that BK has spewed throughout his entire career. 😂

I was born and raised in Everett, MA. Kelly went to high school at St. John's Prep in Danvers, MA (where several of my cousins are alums) and then attended college at Assumption, a small school in Worcester (about 30 minutes outside of Boston without traffic), playing for the football team.

That's basically the last time he had contact with Massachusetts. The dude graduated in 1983, coached there until 1986, and then went out to the Midwest to coach at Grand Valley State, where he remained until he took the LSU job. He was never involved in MA politics; he had a few roles in the student government at Assumption, but he continues to run back this lie that he was "involved in MA politics" after college and it's so obviously a lie that I cringe every time I hear it.

What sealed the deal for me that he was a fraud was a few years back, when he was still coach here, ND did some kind of TV special where Kelly went back to Chelsea and "his old neighborhood." It was so painfully obvious that he had no fucking idea what he was talking about when discussing the town, and he clearly had no attachment to the place. He spent the majority of his life in the Midwest and every time he brings up the MA politics schtick, I cringe -- and it gives so much credence to the reports of his phoniness.

OK, I'll step off my soap box now. This has bothered me for years and I've never had an opportunity to bring it up, so thanks for giving me the opportunity DC!
As a fellow Masshole myself, I've always been curious about this.
BK's dad was a City Councilor in Chelsea when he was growing up and according to this pretty-well-reported Pete Thamel story from Kelly's Cincy days he worked as a staffer for a state senator from Worcester for a bit during/after college, which is a fairly authentic local retail political experience here in Massachusetts, especially back then. I'm sure he grew up knowing how to talk with all sorts of people - which is a good skill for a college football coach.
But, to your point, he left Massachusetts almost 40 years ago and never came back except for the occasional Sox game. And Chelsea is a very different place than it was. A City Councilor today had better speak Spanish, which I doubt BK does. I'd be shocked if he knows squat or cares about the place today, nor would anyone there care a bit about him.
 

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As a fellow Masshole myself, I've always been curious about this.
BK's dad was a City Councilor in Chelsea when he was growing up and according to this pretty-well-reported Pete Thamel story from Kelly's Cincy days he worked as a staffer for a state senator from Worcester for a bit during/after college, which is a fairly authentic local retail political experience here in Massachusetts, especially back then. I'm sure he grew up knowing how to talk with all sorts of people - which is a good skill for a college football coach.
But, to your point, he left Massachusetts almost 40 years ago and never came back except for the occasional Sox game. And Chelsea is a very different place than it was. A City Councilor today had better speak Spanish, which I doubt BK does. I'd be shocked if he knows squat or cares about the place today, nor would anyone there care a bit about him.

I mean I had an internship with a few Congressmen for a few years during my college days in DC, and I'd never tell someone "I was involved in politics at the federal level." Maybe that's just me, but the whole thing has always seemed incredibly overstated/disingenuous on BK's part; he left Boston when he was 18.

The "go back to the old neighborhood" thing that ND produced was the icing on the cake. He couldn't identify anything he used to do in the town. Lots of "oh those are my old stopping grounds!" or "hey we used to order pizza from there!" type comments, without having any idea of names, dates, places, etc. He clearly had no attachment to MA (which is totally fair! He left when he was young!) but please stop running back the whole Masshole schtick as if he was taking the Orange line to the Garden every day throughout his entire life.

It's why the whole "my fam-uh-lee" thing at LSU never surprised me. The guy is a phony, a fake and a chameleon, but I was willing to overlook it when he was here because he was NDFC.
 

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Now that I've defended him in this thread, I have to come and address this obvious BS that BK has spewed throughout his entire career. 😂

I was born and raised in Everett, MA. Kelly went to high school at St. John's Prep in Danvers, MA (where several of my cousins are alums) and then attended college at Assumption, a small school in Worcester (about 30 minutes outside of Boston without traffic), playing for the football team.

That's basically the last time he had contact with Massachusetts. The dude graduated in 1983, coached there until 1986, and then went out to the Midwest to coach at Grand Valley State, where he remained until he took the LSU job. He was never involved in MA politics; he had a few roles in the student government at Assumption, but he continues to run back this lie that he was "involved in MA politics" after college and it's so obviously a lie that I cringe every time I hear it.

What sealed the deal for me that he was a fraud was a few years back, when he was still coach here, ND did some kind of TV special where Kelly went back to Chelsea and "his old neighborhood." It was so painfully obvious that he had no fucking idea what he was talking about when discussing the town, and he clearly had no attachment to the place. He spent the majority of his life in the Midwest and every time he brings up the MA politics schtick, I cringe -- and it gives so much credence to the reports of his phoniness.

OK, I'll step off my soap box now. This has bothered me for years and I've never had an opportunity to bring it up, so thanks for giving me the opportunity DC!

I mean I had an internship with a few Congressmen for a few years during my college days in DC, and I'd never tell someone "I was involved in politics at the federal level." Maybe that's just me, but the whole thing has always seemed incredibly overstated/disingenuous on BK's part; he left Boston when he was 18.

The "go back to the old neighborhood" thing that ND produced was the icing on the cake. He couldn't identify anything he used to do in the town. Lots of "oh those are my old stopping grounds!" or "hey we used to order pizza from there!" type comments, without having any idea of names, dates, places, etc. He clearly had no attachment to MA (which is totally fair! He left when he was young!) but please stop running back the whole Masshole schtick as if he was taking the Orange line to the Garden every day throughout his entire life.

It's why the whole "my fam-uh-lee" thing at LSU never surprised me. The guy is a phony, a fake and a chameleon, but I was willing to overlook it when he was here because he was NDFC.

Gonna give a hot take from a outside perspective here. If you grew up through college graduation from somewhere, you are from there. It does not matter if he never steps foot in Massachusetts again, the man is from Massachusetts lol. It’s not like he moved when he was 4.

It’s also entirely reasonable for a Poly Sci major with a family connection to have done the most basic level internship/event volunteer for a political campaign. Is the description probably overblown? Sure. That’s what resumes are.

Idk from the outside I don’t see the big gotcha here.
 

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It's why the whole "my fam-uh-lee" thing at LSU never surprised me. The guy is a phony, a fake and a chameleon, but I was willing to overlook it when he was here because he was NDFC.
This fact is beyond dispute, and yet people on here will bow and scrape and talk about this man like some kind of savior when he simply prodded awake the giant that was sleeping on cultural bedrock deeper than anything else in college football. Yes, it still was, even in 2010. A lot of coaches could have done this, notwithstanding the fact that our world historically bad administration managed to find the only three vibrators in the sex store without an on switch. A lot of coaches could have done what he did, and could have done it without the entire time hating Notre Dame, failing completely to understand the ways in which what makes it different makes it better, instinctively rebelling against that notion at every turn. That's why I still hold a grudge, though I expect I will think about him less and less as the Freeman wins pileup and as Kelly moves from LSU to ESPN to the deuce to MAC Digital Network, to losing the MA-7 Dem primary by thirty points. Fuck that chump.
 

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I find the LSU football team interesting as a topic; not so much rehashing Kelly.

I believe that the became an administrator more than a (blame-it-all-on-the head) coach long ago.
 

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2011 - we just got shafted with having to face a team we previously beat, at their house, in the NC. Oh yeah, we also had to beat a good Georgia team into oblivion in the SEC Championship game while Alabama kicked their feet back and rested up. Sometimes football isn't a fair game....But, I largely agree. Miles wasn't a great coach or game manager....yet, I still would somewhat prefer him to Kelly. :unsure:
To be fair, it would be a tough call. Miles (or his staff) did recruit their asses off…I’ll give them that. As you well know, LSU isn’t the most difficult place to recruit to. LA is a hotbed per capita for elite talent and a lot of those kids grow up wanting to play for LSU. Yes, they get plenty of competition from Bama & other big schools but even in the down years (DiNardo, end of Miles era) they would sign talent by default of being LSU in the state of LA.

2011 likely had a lot to do w/ CFB evolving into a CFP. And as much as CFP would like us to think it was for the good of the game we all know it was about TV ratings/revenue.

It’s funny how much the SEC owes Rich Rod for some of their success as a conference. Rich Rod was set to take the Bama offer before changing his mind so Bama went out and got Saban. Before that, Rich Rod’s 2007 WVU choked on applesauce in the backyard brawl allowing LSU to back their way into the NCG which…to their credit….they won.
 

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I find the LSU football team interesting as a topic; not so much rehashing Kelly.

I believe that the became an administrator more than a (blame-it-all-on-the head) coach long ago.
I bet you don't like "rehashing" Kelly. The way you reflexively defended this man who hated everything that made Notre Dame special is to your everlasting shame. I mean it's an online football forum so who cares, but still.
 

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looks like when i mix the ketchup and mustard on my plate for dipping fries.


that said, good to see BK looking trim and healthy. good for him.
 

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His douchebag points keep climbing the more I see him while watching the SEC Nextflix show. He is a real tool that is out of touch with reality. I am glad that ND webt with MFMF!
 

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Shopping down a different aisle.




Unaware he knew his two guests were wanted by the authorities for murder? I don’t believe it for a second. However, it will be interesting to see if they can ”prove” he knew. He is wearing his God First sweatshirt for the cameras though…….
 
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