Trump Presidency Round 2

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Dude, you spend your days removing foreign objects from rectums and arguing with people on the internet. Real man? 🤣
No smart opinions make dumb attack jokes. U really don’t realize how sub level cognitively u look do u?
 

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No smart opinions make dumb attack jokes. U really don’t realize how sub level cognitively u look do u?
You’re the dumbest poster on this site and it’s not even close. You have never made a cogent point about any topic, ever.
 

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Dude, you spend your days removing foreign objects from rectums and arguing with people on the internet. Real man? 🤣
But it pays well and I get to do a lot of breast exams, so it all evens out.
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I 100% would have defended you if someone pulled up your picture and said you looked like a clown. It was ass move. I normally avoid this thread like the plague for a reason.

Just so you know (but not that you care) I have historically been a very moderate and independent voter. Middle of the road American and usually ended up voting 3rd party because I cared as little for the Bush/Romney/McCain types as I did for the Clinton's of the world. I thought they were all crooks and would rather throw my vote away then vote then vote for something I don't agree with. The reason I am bringing this up over the last 4-5 years the left has proved to average middle of the road swing voters like me that they are the party of hate, burning cities, destroying the middle class with their inflationary spending, calling everyone that disagrees with them racists/sexists/this or that phobia while the right has shown to be the side or law and order, world peace, the party of the middle class and in general they are happier people.

Your party has drove average Americans like me way to the right and is why Trump was able to win in a landslide. Again not that you give a shits and your party won't listen to average people like me but they are going to continue to loose because of it. You can go ahead and take my real and personal feedback and find a personal picture of me and call me a clown as well but just note that it doesn't resonate with people and you will keep loosing in elections.

So, it seems like you are either a bit naive or being willfully ignorant based on some of your statements.

Inflationary spending?

Please provide an example of the GOP reducing the federal deficit in the last 25 years. The bill they just passed ain’t gonna do it.

Rhetorical grenade tossing and general name calling?

The current president helped promulgate the idea that Obama wasn’t an American Citizen and tosses out petty insults on an hourly basis.

The right as stewards of World Peace? That’s a doozy.

Neocons on the right made up a bunch of shit to justify the invasion of a country that resulted in destabilizing the entire Middle East and one of the longest conflicts in American history.

MAGA and world peace?

The current administration is doing exactly what the previous one did in regards to Ukraine, hasn’t done anything to stop the Genocide in Palestine and tore up a good deal with Iran that ultimately resulted in a conflict with ballistic missile strikes on Israel and the US directly attacking Iran.

Violence domestically and law and order?

The guy you voted for incited a riot in an attempt to overturn a federal election, where his supporters (who he pardoned) attacked federal officers en masse. Never mind the felony conviction and his cronies running around behind the scenes engaging in libel and attacking regular Americans to gin up doubts about the election results.

Destroying the middle class?

It’s my opinion that progressive economic policies beginning with Roosevelt and continued by subsequent admins until about Nixon created the modern middle class. Neoliberal economics largely championed by the right is in my opinion what has caused it to begin to unravel. The current administration’s policies are largely a continuation of that process.

Happier people?

Ok. Sure. I know a lot of conservatives who are miserable fucks. Particularly the ones in the trades.

The nicest, happiest people I’ve been around generally speaking were gay dudes in San Francisco.

Lastly, calling winning by razor thin margins in 4-5 states to give one an electoral college victory a “landslide” is kind of ridiculous.

I will make sure to tag you in the next post that calls me a groomer, pedo, beta boy etc. I am sure you will come to fight a vigorous defense just like you have here for Bish. Much stronger insults have been tossed around here than clown. I know you see the others that downvoted me as well, they used to have the some facade of being callers of balls and strikes but that quickly went out the window.

I really don’t have anything to say that Bluto didn’t already say. I will say that if you’re voting for the modern Republican Party, give yourself some credit. You came to that decision yourself, own it. You really think that Rachel Maddow or Wolf Blitzer have that much control over you? I don’t think they do. I certainly don’t think some pink haired protestors made you vote for Trump.

I agree people like Clinton were the leaders in the clubhouse for being crooks. You truly picked a winner in the Don. I can see why you didn’t like Slick, he didn’t quite have the gusto Don does. I’m wondering what kind of merch drop the party of hate is cooking up, hopefully it rivals that sick prison merch from Florida. The party of the middle class is an interesting one too, especially combined with the inflationary spending tidbit. I always thought the “don’t tread on me” types would be upset at such a high amount of spending on three letter agencies? I guess it’s not really “their” freedoms, maybe just random Mexican looking guy? But hey, cost of business. Imagine if the spending went towards those homeless vets that the Right likes to prop up as ploys whenever it comes budget time?

Anyways, like Leppy says I’m just someone who pays a few k in taxes without a vote in the elections, so does my opinion really matter? Of course the very studious history folks here would say tax without representation is theft but hey, can’t be consistent on all of them!

Ps - I would have never voted for the Democrats in any presidential election because I believe a party has to represent a majority of my beliefs and not just the lesser of two evils. I’m sorry you see the political spectrum as team sports, however it’s not how I view it.

It's like watching in real time. It doesn't seem like liberals are even seeing it or have noticed the shift, especially after the last election. The course correction hasn't hit yet.

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Deporting some dude in his 80’s who’s originally from Chile and had lost his green card to Guatemala.


There’s a high probability in my opinion that the way Trump is going about immigration enforcement will cause the GOP to lose the Latino vote forever. This is the exact playbook that Joe Arpaio (another shit bag criminal that Trump pardoned) deployed in New Mexico and the GOP in California.

Claiming that race/ethnicity has nothing to do with any of this is a bit ridiculous given the facts that the point person is Steven Miller and federal agents are literally using racial profiling in their decision making as far as detaining people is concerned.
 
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Fake. Let me explain what that word means for the slow. I'll post the childrens version If you need.

  1. prepare or make (something specious, deceptive, or fraudulent).
    to fake a report showing nonexistent profits.
  2. to conceal the defects of or make appear more attractive, interesting, valuable, etc., usually in order to deceive.
    The story was faked a bit to make it more sensational.
 

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“Woke” Alex Jones recently compared the Trump/MAGA movement to a cult. So uh, yeah.
Whether you agree with this premise or not, it is true that a lot of people believe the left has changed. People feel pushed out of the left.
In other words, moderates think the left has "progressed." Even if you dont agree that the left has moved further down the spectrum, dont you think it would be wise to reevaluate and bring some voters back into the fold or do you think it is better to say screw it, we don't need those people anyway?
Even if you think it is pure propaganda and the left hasnt changed, wouldnt it be a good idea to try and adjust to reassure those that think otherwise?
 
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Whether you agree with this premise or not, it is true that a lot of people believe the left has changed. People feel pushed out of the left.
In other words, moderates think the left has "progressed." Even if you dont agree that the left has moved further down the spectrum, dont you think it would be wise to reevaluate and bring some voters back into the fold or do you think it is better to say screw it, we don't need those people anyway?
Even if you think it is pure propaganda and the left hasnt changed, wouldnt it be a good idea to try and adjust to reassure those that think otherwise?
Sure.

I think if democrats stuck to campaigning on economic issues, quit sucking up to and splitting hairs over billionaires and ran candidates that weren’t alive during the great depression they’d whip the GOP 8 out of 10 times.

I also think facts matter.

Lastly, I think the Israeli lobby has way overplayed its hand and has lost an entire generation of voters from both sides of the political spectrum.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out and I’m pretty convinced that Harris not condemning the genocide is one of the big reasons she lost.
 
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Sure.

I think if democrats stuck to campaigning on economic issues, quit sucking up to and splitting hairs over billionaires and ran candidates that weren’t alive during the great depression they’d whip the GOP 8 out of 10 times.

I also think facts matter.
You mean to tell me that having Liz Cheney out on the campaign trail isn't getting those staunch moderates back in the fold? Having the DNC snuff out any actual progressive wing of the party?

Eh, maybe they can package GWB's foreign policy and see if people will eat that up.

I can't believe the party has gone so far to the Left that they actually got single payer healthcare, legalized abortion, and raised the minimum wage!
 

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You mean to tell me that having Liz Cheney out on the campaign trail isn't getting those staunch moderates back in the fold? Having the DNC snuff out any actual progressive wing of the party?

Eh, maybe they can package GWB's foreign policy and see if people will eat that up.

I can't believe the party has gone so far to the Left that they actually got single payer healthcare, legalized abortion, and raised the minimum wage!
The so called “radical left” Democrats these days are basically Rockefeller Republicans.
 

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Sure.

I think if democrats stuck to campaigning on economic issues, quit sucking up to and splitting hairs over billionaires and ran candidates that weren’t alive during the great depression they’d whip the GOP 8 out of 10 times.

I also think facts matter.

Lastly, I think the Israeli lobby has way overplayed its hand and has lost an entire generation of voters from both sides of the political spectrum.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out and I’m pretty convinced that Harris not condemning the genocide is one of the big reasons she lost.
It would take more than that. The majority of citizens are for deporting illegals. They may not agree with the way ICE is going about it, but that's a sub-topic. Having rioters setting fire to cars doesn't help the cause.
 

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It would take more than that. The majority of citizens are for deporting illegals. They may not agree with the way ICE is going about it, but that's a sub-topic. Having rioters setting fire to cars doesn't help the cause.
Not really. That strategy is how both Democratic Senators in Georgia got elected. Same with Andy Beshear in Kentucky of all places.

To address immigration all they need to say is they are for due process and following the law. Pretty simple and easy to provide a juxtaposition to the current environment that has masked agents running around detaining as well as deporting American Citizens.

It also seems pretty clear that a significant portion of Trump voters hate the rich and powerful. Increasing taxes on Jeff Bezos/ Mark Zuckerberg and other coastal elites and or corporations so you can have affordable healthcare and reduce the national debt is a pretty easy sell.

I will say the GOP did an amazing job of gerrymandering the shit out of several states to ensure that even when they are in a clear minority state wide they maintain an advantage in house seats in various states.

It’s interesting you bring up the bolded because there are tons of examples of violent behavior from right wingers beyond January 6th that get amplified and supported or at a minimum brushed aside by “law and order” conservatives. It’s usually some convoluted mix of the second amendment, right to life (pretty ironic) and sovereign citizen craziness.
 
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Sure.

I think if democrats stuck to campaigning on economic issues, quit sucking up to and splitting hairs over billionaires and ran candidates that weren’t alive during the great depression they’d whip the GOP 8 out of 10 times.

I also think facts matter.

Lastly, I think the Israeli lobby has way overplayed its hand and has lost an entire generation of voters from both sides of the political spectrum.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out and I’m pretty convinced that Harris not condemning the genocide is one of the big reasons she lost.

Bolded is a very interesting observation. Always been crazy to me how much influence Israel has on US politics.
 

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That's because Israel is the test station for military and policing. The government and many posters here see it as animal testing. Wipe out the Palestinians and use your new weapons on them. It's Unit 731 for the military industrial complex. Then IOF agents come over here to train police on how to brutalize Americans. The world has decided that Palestinians are subhuman so they get away with it. It's a little fascist breeding ground, and it helps that these Eastern European cosplayers can pretend they are really from the Levant. It's like if a bunch of South Korean Christians took over Rome and started speaking Latin.
 

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That's because Israel is the test station for military and policing. The government and many posters here see it as animal testing. Wipe out the Palestinians and use your new weapons on them. It's Unit 731 for the military industrial complex. Then IOF agents come over here to train police on how to brutalize Americans. The world has decided that Palestinians are subhuman so they get away with it. It's a little fascist breeding ground, and it helps that these Eastern European cosplayers can pretend they are really from the Levant. It's like if a bunch of South Korean Christians took over Rome and started speaking Latin.
Seriously? I'm curious as to who you think on this board think Palestinians are sub-human and think of it as animal testing. There are some including me, who think Hamas is sub-human because they will kill without regard, but not all Palestinians.
 

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Jerome Powell has stepped down as the head of the Federal Reserve.

Bessent calling the Fed a jobs program for economics academics was pretty funny. 24,000 employed nationwide by the Federal Reserve. $700M over budget on the DC project now estimated at $2.5B - almost $1M per employee at that site.
 

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Bessent calling the Fed a jobs program for economics academics was pretty funny. 24,000 employed nationwide by the Federal Reserve. $700M over budget on the DC project now estimated at $2.5B - almost $1M per employee at that site.
Looks like it hasn't been confirmed. My apologies.

Apparently Powell testified that they project didn't include a number of amenities when it actually did.
 

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Trump says DOJ meeting with Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell ‘sounds appropriate’​



Ghislaine Maxwell will oppose unsealing of Epstein grand jury materials, source says​

From CNN’s Kara Scannell
Ghislaine Maxwell will oppose the unsealing of grand jury materials related to her and Jeffrey Epstein, according to a person close to her.
It’s the latest legal twist after the Department of Justice asked a judge to make the confidential proceedings available to the public.
A judge in Maxwell’s case had asked her legal team to weigh in by August 5. Maxwell continues to attempt to appeal her conviction. She is serving a 20-year prison sentence.
 
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