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drayer54

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LOL being so deep in the sauce you think J Street is antisemitic.

Are these countries antisemitic for upholding the arrest warrants? Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Canada, Australia, Finland, Iceland etc.? Is everyone antisemitic? If you disagree with how Bibi's government operates are you an antisemite?

Please educate me on these grave pitfalls. I can't wait to hear the same guy who thinks Soros is a puppet master controlling the media, and that he's undermining western society is going to lecture me on antisemitism lmao.
J street is where the soft opposition to Israel in the mainstream D parrty was first floated. The UN has been ineffective and a place for bashing Israel for decades now. It is what it is.
 

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Not condoning using Palestinians to check if buildings are clear, but where was the pearl clutching when Hamas was using hospitals for a command center, or setting up in mosques? Yeah, entire buildings filled with human shields is cool, especially when Hamas injured many of them to begin with. Israel tends to follow the rules of war while Hamas has no regard for any rules nor concern for who they hurt.
I think if we dig far enough we'll find Israel provoked Hamas into killing 1,200 innocent civilians. If not, then Israel should have "Turned the other cheek" after the attack.
 

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Why would Obama feel the need to do this after almost 40 years?

 

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Why would Obama feel the need to do this after almost 40 years?


Because his failed novelist turned foreign policy advisor hated Israel and naively thought the Ayatollah would somehow go from “Death to Israel” to “oh yeah we just want enrichment for nuclear power lol”
 

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I don't quite buy the "zero chance" of us intervening at all. OSINT reporting shows the massive amount of KC inflow into the peripheral theaters, and a massive evacuation of USPAX from Israel, and Al Udeid in Qatar. I don't think all of that would point to us not earnestly preparing to go kinetic into Iran. I think it could be true that Trump genuinely doesn't want to send B-2s over Iran, preferring a diplomatic solution AND that he is prepared to go kinetic if that falls apart.
 

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I think if we dig far enough we'll find Israel provoked Hamas into killing 1,200 innocent civilians. If not, then Israel should have "Turned the other cheek" after the attack.
You can’t expect lasting peace without learning to live with your neighbors. That's a fundamental challenge for Israel. I know it's not very fashionable to criticize Israel, but it's a simple fact that Gaza has been under Israeli occupation,for nearly six decades. It's naive to think Palestinians will simply accept perpetual subjugation as their fate. Would any of us peacefully endure foreign military control over our land for generations? Don't expect the same from someone else.

Israel has problems with nearly all of its neighbors. The only relationships it manages to hold together are with regimes propped up by billions in U.S. aid...so long as they play nice and toe the line. American taxpayers are footing the bill on both ends - billions to fund Israel’s military so it can “defend itself,” including by bombing the living shit out of their neighbors, and billions more to bribe other neighbors into staying quiet. Our media does a great job of convincing us we're supporting peace, when it's plainly obvious we're funding endless conflict.

There’s a reason for all of this. If you notice it and poitn it out, you're an antisemite.
 

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I think the situation is coming in more favorable than expected. Because the Israel strategy to cutoff Hamas, Hezbollah, then the Houthis with the US- then to go after their attack capability- has opened the doors to just truly decimating this regime and even going in on the ground to Fordow. Iran is about to get truly wrecked with whatever they have left. Israel cutting off the bottom of the snake first has been a solid move.
 

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That’s complete bullshit. If you read actual Israeli media you would understand that.
I get information from the horse's mouth. I worked for a company for 10 years that was founded in Tel Aviv, I've got a lot of friends still. I know the games Hamas plays. My longest gaming buddy is an older Israeli gentlemen that lives in Canada now. Some of his best friends are Palestinians, he's got stories too. I won't tell you how he lost his eye, long after he was done with his service.
 

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SeekNHelp wants Trump to storm the gates and spend 20 trillion fighting other people’s wars. I believe he doesn’t really cause he’s not that stupid he just has a bad case of TDS.
 

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Lolol. U realize normal people laugh at you when u believe that’s a bad burn.
You realize that dipshits like you shouted, “Let’s go Brandon” for years, right? It’s called mocking, Diddy. It’s what I do to you on the daily.
 
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SeekNHelp wants Trump to storm the gates and spend 20 trillion fighting other people’s wars. I believe he doesn’t really cause he’s not that stupid he just has a bad case of TDS.
When did I say this, Diddyup? Maybe put the baby oil away. It seems to have entered your bloodstream and made its way to your brain. Either that or it’s all the paint chips you ate as a child.
 

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You can’t expect lasting peace without learning to live with your neighbors. That's a fundamental challenge for Israel. I know it's not very fashionable to criticize Israel, but it's a simple fact that Gaza has been under Israeli occupation,for nearly six decades. It's naive to think Palestinians will simply accept perpetual subjugation as their fate. Would any of us peacefully endure foreign military control over our land for generations? Don't expect the same from someone else.

Israel has problems with nearly all of its neighbors. The only relationships it manages to hold together are with regimes propped up by billions in U.S. aid...so long as they play nice and toe the line. American taxpayers are footing the bill on both ends - billions to fund Israel’s military so it can “defend itself,” including by bombing the living shit out of their neighbors, and billions more to bribe other neighbors into staying quiet. Our media does a great job of convincing us we're supporting peace, when it's plainly obvious we're funding endless conflict.

There’s a reason for all of this. If you notice it and poitn it out, you're an antisemite.
Agree. Unfortunately that area has been a powder keg going back to 47-48 when the powers that be carved out some land for the Jewish population. Then the Arab Israel war began. IIRC Israel was fighting several Arab nations. I think that is why Israel takes such a hard stance with its neighbors whether one agrees with it or not. Bottom line is I don’t think anyone over there really wants to get along.
 

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I never said let’s go Brandon once in my life. But glad seek is following their example
 

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Agree. Unfortunately that area has been a powder keg going back to 47-48 when the powers that be carved out some land for the Jewish population. Then the Arab Israel war began. IIRC Israel was fighting several Arab nations. I think that is why Israel takes such a hard stance with its neighbors whether one agrees with it or not. Bottom line is I don’t think anyone over there really wants to get along.
Which part do you agree with? Because he's making literally all the same points that many of us have made here.
 

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Why would Obama feel the need to do this after almost 40 years?
Do you not have access to Google?

 
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