Trump Presidency Round 2

[BuaConstrictor]

Is this good?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Bond market hit the YIPPY line and Trump is begging for China to call.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Does Maine want this to continue? Does he approve of how China's trade and IP theft conduct?

What is his issue here? We should let China continue to break every rule? We should wait this out? Or he simply doesn't like the president and no matter what he did he would post this?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Does Maine want this to continue?

Do you?

Ask him.

Does he approve of how China's trade and IP theft conduct?

Ask him.

What is his issue here?

He doesn't have an "issue". He's pointing out that Trump is a bitch after talking a big game.

We should let China continue to break every rule?

Who is advocating for that?

We should wait this out?

There shouldn't be anything to "wait out" to begin with.

Or he simply doesn't like the president and no matter what he did he would post this?

He doesn't have an "issue". He's pointing out that Trump is a bitch after talking a big game.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Do you?

Ask him.


Ask him.


He doesn't have an "issue". He's pointing out that Trump is a bitch after talking a big game.


Who is advocating for that?


There shouldn't be anything to "wait out" to begin with.

He doesn't have an "issue". He's pointing out that Trump is a bitch after talking a big game.

I'm not the one who posted it. I assumed there was a point to it and there was shared opinion by you with his tweet.

I won't ask him so I'll ask you.

What should the US do in regards to China when it comes to trade and IP theft?

I'm not wild about these tariffs but I'm willing to let things play out.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[IrishLax]

 

[NDVirginia19]

$500M a year to acquire Greenland would be a good deal

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm not the one who posted it. I assumed there was a point to it and there was shared opinion by you with his tweet.

I won't ask him so I'll ask you.

What should the US do in regards to China when it comes to trade and IP theft?

I'm not wild about these tariffs but I'm willing to let things play out.

You're gonna wait awhile on a straight answer to your actual question. I've asked similar and gotten little more than spin, dodging, answers to a dozen things I didn't ask, and so on. They have no legit answer to this. All the things they believe should work got tried under Biden and failed miserably. They don't have any workable solutions. They just want to gripe and cry and moan.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You're gonna wait awhile on a straight answer to your actual question. I've asked similar and gotten little more than spin, dodging, answers to a dozen things I didn't ask, and so on. They have no legit answer to this. All the things they believe should work got tried under Biden and failed miserably. They don't have any workable solutions. They just want to gripe and cry and moan.

You saying someone isn't going to give a straight answer to something is the most comical thing ever

 

[ColoradoIrish]

 

[BuaConstrictor]

I'm not the one who posted it.

It's not my post. He has a public Twitter account. Ask him.

I won't ask him

Chicken shit.

What should the US do in regards to China when it comes to trade and IP theft?

We should ...... At most perhaps strategically tariff certain sectors to help protect industries in the US. Namely robotics, green energy, and products used for the development of AI(Which, by the way, Trump fucked up after the owner of NVIDIA attended a dinner with him)..so how exactly is shit like this helping?. The Harvard Business Review had some good thoughts on this years ago. (1) (2) The trade deficit with them has been falling since 2018 anyways. Our trade with China was mutually beneficial. The IP theft end of things is something that I don't really get too fired up about. It's a lot of paper tiger shit.

I generally have no problem with strategically VERY intentional tariffs. I've stated this in the past. They are a scalpel, not a hammer. EDIT: I'll even throw you a bone. I thought the tariffs the 1st Trump term enacted were a good thing. They were targeted and directed and produced tangible results (Nike to Vietnam etc)

My biggest issue with China is their human rights record and oppressive government.

The GOP in this country have been stepping on their own dicks since 2008 and refusing to outpace China is areas where we actually could. You're not going to reverse that, let alone re-industrialize the US, because of a three month trade war.

I'm not wild about these tariffs but I'm willing to let things play out.

This is a retarded viewpoint because the administration can't even lay out a cohesive strategy of what they are trying to solve.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You're gonna wait awhile

He waited 25 minutes.

I've asked similar

No you haven't. This is an absolute lie.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Willing to bet...Trump, tying to save face, just gets us back into the exact same trade deals he pulled us out of and tries to call it a "win".

 

[TorontoGold]

You're gonna wait awhile on a straight answer to your actual question. I've asked similar and gotten little more than spin, dodging, answers to a dozen things I didn't ask, and so on. They have no legit answer to this. All the things they believe should work got tried under Biden and failed miserably. They don't have any workable solutions. They just want to gripe and cry and moan.

The floor is yours - explain to us what everyone is missing in regards to Trump's economic strategy. Can you articulate that? A medical professional should be able to do this.

 

[Sea Turtle]

It's not my post. He has a public Twitter account. Ask him.


Chicken shit.


We should ...... At most perhaps strategically tariff certain sectors to help protect industries in the US. Namely robotics, green energy, and products used for the development of AI(Which, by the way, Trump fucked up after the owner of NVIDIA attended a dinner with him)..so how exactly is shit like this helping?. The Harvard Business Review had some good thoughts on this years ago. (1) (2) The trade deficit with them has been falling since 2018 anyways. Our trade with China was mutually beneficial. The IP theft end of things is something that I don't really get too fired up about. It's a lot of paper tiger shit.

I generally have no problem with strategically VERY intentional tariffs. I've stated this in the past. They are a scalpel, not a hammer. EDIT: I'll even throw you a bone. I thought the tariffs the 1st Trump term enacted were a good thing. They were targeted and directed and produced tangible results (Nike to Vietnam etc)

My biggest issue with China is their human rights record and oppressive government.

The GOP in this country have been stepping on their own dicks since 2008 and refusing to outpace China is areas where we actually could. You're not going to reverse that, let alone re-industrialize the US, because of a three month trade war.


This is a retarded viewpoint because the administration can't even lay out a cohesive strategy of what they are trying to solve.

Thanks for the response. It's good to hear people's ideas.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm not the one who posted it. I assumed there was a point to it and there was shared opinion by you with his tweet.

I won't ask him so I'll ask you.

What should the US do in regards to China when it comes to trade and IP theft?

I'm not wild about these tariffs but I'm willing to let things play out.

There are like a million different options — including targeted tariffs — that should be used against China. The easiest would be things like the TPP (uniting all the regional countries against China) or banding together with Europe to sanction them / stop buying Chinese goods. Move more and more manufacturing to Philippines, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, etc. Move more critical manufacturing inside the United States like we were doing with CHIPS Act and TSMC.

I could write paragraphs on hypothetical moves … none of them involve blanket tariffs on good partners that benefit the United States by selling us stuff we need for cheap.

 

[Sea Turtle]

There are like a million different options — including targeted tariffs — that should be used against China. The easiest would be things like the TPP (uniting all the regional countries against China) or banding together with Europe to sanction them / stop buying Chinese goods. Move more and more manufacturing to Philippines, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, etc. Move more critical manufacturing inside the United States like we were doing with CHIPS Act and TSMC.

I could write paragraphs on hypothetical moves … none of them involve blanket tariffs on good partners that benefit the United States by selling us stuff we need for cheap.

Thanks, Lax. I appreciate the response. This does sound quite doable.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The floor is yours - explain to us what everyone is missing in regards to Trump's economic strategy. Can you articulate that? A medical professional should be able to do this.

You're gonna wait awhile on a straight answer to your actual question. I've asked similar and gotten little more than spin, dodging, answers to a dozen things I didn't ask, and so on. They have no legit answer to this. All the things they believe should work are being tried under Trump and are failing miserably. They don't have any workable solutions. They just want to gripe and cry and moan.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[BuaConstrictor]

There are like a million different options — including targeted tariffs — that should be used against China. The easiest would be things like the TPP (uniting all the regional countries against China) or banding together with Europe to sanction them / stop buying Chinese goods. Move more and more manufacturing to Philippines, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, etc. Move more critical manufacturing inside the United States like we were doing with CHIPS Act and TSMC.

I could write paragraphs on hypothetical moves … none of them involve blanket tariffs on good partners that benefit the United States by selling us stuff we need for cheap.

Worth noting:

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[Irishdwarte]

 

[Bishop2b5]

The floor is yours - explain to us what everyone is missing in regards to Trump's economic strategy. Can you articulate that? A medical professional should be able to do this.

Dammit Toronto, I'm a doctor, not an economist!

Nobody mentioned my suggestions for the economy, but nice attempt to deflect and change the subject... again. The issue raised is you and the other beta boys with no suggestions other than the failed, disastrous ideas of the previous admin. You don't have any good ideas or anything other than already proven bad suggestions. You just want to whine and gripe because your side lost and got voted out. Now give a direct reply to THAT instead of dodging and changing the subject and trotting out your usual strawman arguments.

 

[ozzman]

Every accusation a confession

 

[TorontoGold]

Dammit Toronto, I'm a doctor, not an economist!

Nobody mentioned my suggestions for the economy, but nice attempt to deflect and change the subject... again. The issue raised is you and the other beta boys with no suggestions other than the failed, disastrous ideas of the previous admin. You don't have any good ideas or anything other than already proven bad suggestions. You just want to whine and gripe because your side lost and got voted out. Now give a direct reply to THAT instead of dodging and changing the subject and trotting out your usual strawman arguments.

I'm not deflecting. I'm literally asking you to explain to us your opinion. A doctor should be able to convey their thoughts like an adult.

So what is Trump doing that you think we're missing. What economic principles do I have wrong? Why don't you find something that I've posted you disagree with and talk like the "doctor" you are. You've demonstrated your deep understand of Dr.Pepper, but I don't think anyone is fooled by your claims of being a "doctor". I know plenty of doctors, and they're able to have a simple discussion about the economy without melting down.

 

[GATTACA!]

Dammit Toronto, I'm a doctor, not an economist!

Nobody mentioned my suggestions for the economy, but nice attempt to deflect and change the subject... again. The issue raised is you and the other beta boys with no suggestions other than the failed, disastrous ideas of the previous admin. You don't have any good ideas or anything other than already proven bad suggestions. You just want to whine and gripe because your side lost and got voted out. Now give a direct reply to THAT instead of dodging and changing the subject and trotting out your usual strawman arguments.

If the Biden admin was an economic disaster what must this admin be?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/mortgage-rates-surge-tariffs-bond-market.html

Remember folks Trump said he'd have rates below 3%. Are you sick of winning yet?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm not deflecting. I'm literally asking you to explain to us your opinion. A doctor should be able to convey their thoughts like an adult.

So what is Trump doing that you think we're missing. What economic principles do I have wrong? Why don't you find something that I've posted you disagree with and talk like the "doctor" you are. You've demonstrated your deep understand of Dr.Pepper, but I don't think anyone is fooled by your claims of being a "doctor". I know plenty of doctors, and they're able to have a simple discussion about the economy without melting down.

Again, I'm not an economist. I haven't expressed any opinion about Trump's handling of the economy other than suggesting that instead of you guys melting down every day over every detail, we see how all the tariff stuff plays out. You're the one with nothing except crying and whining about everything all day, every day. You complain about everything, but have no suggestions other than the things Biden tried that were failures and got the dems voted out. Just whining all day, every day about Trump is no solution.