Russia Invades Ukraine

[ColoradoIrish]

and those were bc of your friend!

Shouldn't have been buying all that shit from Amazon and supported local small businesses 😂

 

[NorthDakota]

You probably spend more time in Fargo than I do, so I'll defer to your take, but the Somali population there seems to have done a much better job of integrating into the community and culture, and haven't been nearly as much of a crime problem as in Minneapolis. At least that's been the impression I've gotten.

I didn't deal with them much when i lived there. I think a lot of them end up moving to Minneapolis.

 

[GATTACA!]

I think the difference that you and I have is that I perceive the "Western" cultural identity as one that is a melting pot of all religions and not a dominant one. I think the second you start picking winners and losers based on religion that's a dark path to go down. Certainly seems to be the antithesis of the people who left the Old World for the New.

We are all going to get along better with those that share similar cultural upbringings and what not, but I don't believe in writing an entire religion off because of the extreme elements.

You owe $3,500? Just double check that you can't make "catch up" contributions, sometimes these sorts of accounts will allow you to withdraw but you have the chance to contribute the amount back into the account to wipe out any possible excess tax. I'm not sure on the rules with a 529 account but something to research.

I have no problem with groups of immigrants congregating together in one area. That's how we ended up with German towns, Chinatowns, and Little Italys.

However there needs to be absolutely zero tolerance for them trying to pressure cities/counties/states into adopting legislature to align with their religious beliefs.

 

[TorontoGold]

I have no problem with groups of immigrants congregating together in one area. That's how we ended up with German towns, Chinatowns, and Little Italys.

However there needs to be absolutely zero tolerance for them trying to pressure cities/counties/states into adopting legislature to align with their religious beliefs.

For sure. And I don't think that anyone is going to get very far pressuring places to adopt their religious beliefs, I don't think there's a community in North America that has adopted policies to fit a minorities religious beliefs.

I think it's far more likely that people who make up a majority or who can get a majority amount of support will push to have their religious beliefs imposed on the whole community.

 

[Irish#1]

Would you be ok with this happening in the US?

No, but not because of the reason you think. There appears to be a concerted effort to displace the basic foundation of the laws, religion and culture in England and turn it into a Muslim country ruled by Sharia law.

The U.S. was built on immigrants that assimilated themselves into the life and culture of the U.S. We have a broad range of religions and ethnicities in this country. That's why the U.S. became a super power. Regardless of the religion, color of their skin and ethnicity, we have always pulled together (like WW2) to protect what we have. You want to elect someone that is of Islam faith as your mayor or governor? No problem as long as they want to maintain the laws of the U.S. and not implement Sharia law. That's not what our founding fathers fought for.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

There appears to be a concerted effort to displace the basic foundation of the laws, religion and culture in England and turn it into a Muslim country ruled by Sharia law.

Substantiate.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The U.S. was built on immigrants that assimilated themselves into the life and culture of the U.S. We have a broad range of religions and ethnicities in this country. That's why the U.S. became a super power. Regardless of the religion, color of their skin and ethnicity, we have always pulled together (like WW2) to protect what we have.

This is moronic. Ignoring the fact that the US was "built" on displacing hundreds of thousands(and eventually millions) of Native Americans and definitely NOT assimilating to their culture...... At any point in time in the history of this country, blacks, Jews, Italian, Irish, people of Asian decent, Hispanics/Latinos etc etc have always been enslaved, cast aside, or discriminated against. Those communities many times have NOT assimilated into the broader population and formed their own communities or enclaves in large urban centers or settled their own towns/villages. Sometimes this settlement pattern wasn't even by happenstance but was forced by laws on the books or intimidation.

You bring up WW2, in which we still had segregated military units and interned 125,000 Japanese Americans. So we "all" didn't even pull together then because government policy literally didn't allow us to be together. Hell, white Europeans(Germans) dealt with it in WW1 having their language being banned with people going as far as to change their last names to something not German to avoid discrimination.

I love the fuck out of this country, but what you typed was the most 5th grade ahistorical bullshit possible. In summation:

 

[NDVirginia19]

The conquest of the Americas and the immigration of people into the United States are two entirely different things

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The conquest of the Americas and the immigration of people into the United States are two entirely different things

No. They are not. They are directly linked.

 

[TorontoGold]

No, but not because of the reason you think. There appears to be a concerted effort to displace the basic foundation of the laws, religion and culture in England and turn it into a Muslim country ruled by Sharia law.

The U.S. was built on immigrants that assimilated themselves into the life and culture of the U.S. We have a broad range of religions and ethnicities in this country. That's why the U.S. became a super power. Regardless of the religion, color of their skin and ethnicity, we have always pulled together (like WW2) to protect what we have. You want to elect someone that is of Islam faith as your mayor or governor? No problem as long as they want to maintain the laws of the U.S. and not implement Sharia law. That's not what our founding fathers fought for.

What would you define the concerted effort to be? Do you believe that Muslims in general want Sharia law? Do you believe it to be important to have religion backed laws?

Trying to understand your position.

 

[Irish#1]

I thought I was pretty clear on my position, but I'll bite. Our countries government wasn't built on religion, but the freedom of religion (separation of religion and state). Practice whatever religion you want as long as you don't try to change our government to rule by religion. Much like Catholics, Jews or Protestants, etc., there are some who are strictly by the book while there are others that have a more liberal interpretation. I'm sure there are Muslims who have varying differences in their beliefs/interpretation of Sharia law.

I know you think I have a hard on for those from the ME, but that's not the case. About 7-8 years ago, I was taking a class. A guy in his early 20's was in my class. He was of ME decent and a Muslim. We talked all the time during breaks. Then one day I'm going through resumes. I had forgotten his name, but pulled his resume along with a few others. I was surprised when I saw that it was him that came for an interview. From the minute he showed up, I knew I was offering him the job. He has since left because he wanted to focus strictly on cyber security, but I'd hire him back.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Practice whatever religion you want as long as you don't try to change our government to rule by religion

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/09/21/most-republicans-support-declaring-the-united-states-a-christian-nation-00057736

"Overall, 62 percent of respondents said they opposed such a declaration, including 83 percent of Democrats and 39 percent of Republicans. Fully 61 percent of Republicans supported declaring the United States a Christian nation. In other words, even though over half of Republicans previously said such a move would be unconstitutional, a majority of GOP voters would still support this declaration."

"The call is coming from inside the house."

 

[TorontoGold]

I thought I was pretty clear on my position, but I'll bite. Our countries government wasn't built on religion, but the freedom of religion (separation of religion and state). Practice whatever religion you want as long as you don't try to change our government to rule by religion. Much like Catholics, Jews or Protestants, etc., there are some who are strictly by the book while there are others that have a more liberal interpretation. I'm sure there are Muslims who have varying differences in their beliefs/interpretation of Sharia law.

I know you think I have a hard on for those from the ME, but that's not the case. About 7-8 years ago, I was taking a class. A guy in his early 20's was in my class. He was of ME decent and a Muslim. We talked all the time during breaks. Then one day I'm going through resumes. I had forgotten his name, but pulled his resume along with a few others. I was surprised when I saw that it was him that came for an interview. From the minute he showed up, I knew I was offering him the job. He has since left because he wanted to focus strictly on cyber security, but I'd hire him back.

I'm sorry but this isn't very clear. I trying to understand what exactly you believe is happening in the UK and what sort of changes have been made to adopt Sharia law.

What sort of laws have been passed in the UK that are based in Sharia law, and is there any Muslim leaders in Western countries that have adopted Sharia law into their counties/state/province/countries?

I don't have an "angle" just want to understand your position.

 

[calvegas04]

Sounds like an issue to me

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Sounds like an issue to me

The US has similar courts here for Orthodox Jew populations(most notably in NYC). They rule on many of the same matters the Sharia Courts do in the UK.

 

[calvegas04]

The US has similar courts here for Orthodox Jew populations(most notably in NYC). They rule on many of the same matters the Sharia Courts do in the UK.

Sounds like an issue as well, there is guidance and then there is bypassing law of the land.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Sounds like an issue as well, there is guidance and then there is bypassing law of the land.

In both cases, the courts decisions aren't legally binding as far as I am aware of. I think in the case of the Orthodox Jewish courts some of the civil decisions can be affirmed by the legal system if they agree prior to the decision. Most of them are treated as arbitration hearings.

I think people are taking the term "court" too literally. These are really more just religious arbitration boards.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

FWIW, the Beth Dins are really interesting to learn about. They were even prominently featured in an episode of Law & Order!

 

[Irish#1]

I'm sorry but this isn't very clear. I trying to understand what exactly you believe is happening in the UK and what sort of changes have been made to adopt Sharia law.

What sort of laws have been passed in the UK that are based in Sharia law, and is there any Muslim leaders in Western countries that have adopted Sharia law into their counties/state/province/countries?

I don't have an "angle" just want to understand your position.

As far as I know there aren't any laws passed in GB's government at this time, but I haven't did any research. There are hundreds of Sharia councils which is a form of government for Muslims, which can come into conflict with GB's laws. Seems to me the Muslim communities might be electing mayors to eventually drive a change to Sharia law. This is why there have been protests in GB.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

As far as I know there aren't any laws passed in GB's government at this time, but I haven't did any research.

There are hundreds of Sharia councils which is a form of government for Muslims

Seems to me the Muslim communities might be electing mayors to eventually drive a change to Sharia law.

That is a HELL of a conclusion to make given that you have not "did any research" and aren't even correct on the underlying facts of the matter re: Sharia courts.

This is why there have been protests in GB.

Explained: How UK’s long-running Islamophobia problem led to far-right riots

Anti-Muslim sentiment ‘simmering under the surface’ of British society, experts and religious groups warn

www.the-independent.com

Fact checked: The false far-right claims that sparked the riots

Misinformation is at the source of far-right riots across the country, but although those inaccuracies have been corrected, the demonstrations are still ongoing

www.the-independent.com

 

[TorontoGold]

As far as I know there aren't any laws passed in GB's government at this time, but I haven't did any research. There are hundreds of Sharia councils which is a form of government for Muslims, which can come into conflict with GB's laws. Seems to me the Muslim communities might be electing mayors to eventually drive a change to Sharia law. This is why there have been protests in GB.

I guess, I'm left a bit confused on how you made the statement without doing any research, or is there a certain sect of Islam that you're worried about? "concerted effort to displace the basic foundation of the laws, religion and culture in England and turn it into a Muslim country ruled by Sharia law."

Would you say that Jews are governed by Hasidic Judaism, or Christians by Southern Baptists?

 

[TheProspector]

I think fertility treatments will need to be covered by the government at some point. Never realized until my 30's how many people are just unable to have children due to the cost. Not sure what is causing such high infertility in women now, maybe all the shitty food?

Infertility is being driven by people waiting longer and longer to get married and have kids instead of marrying younger. There is a sharp drop in fertility for a woman in her 30s.

 

[NorthDakota]

Infertility is being driven by people waiting longer and longer to get married and have kids instead of marrying younger. There is a sharp drop in fertility for a woman in her 30s.

Yeah I can't help but notice my friends who got married in our early mid 20's haven't had issues popping out babies.

 

[calvegas04]

Russia continues it's terrorist strikes on Ukraine

 

[calvegas04]

 

[NorthDakota]

She also got an Israeli extradited for immigration crimes.

We have a metric fuck ton of US attorneys. That a former one kicked the bucket isn't interesting.

 

[Giddyup]

Lol. A “US” attorney investigating war crimes. Calves actually believes that. I feel sorry for her. The world is more messy than msm feeds you. Another Biden lawyer bites the dust. Smells a liitle Seth Rich-y

 

[Giddyup]

- Jessica Aber, the Biden-appointed U.S. Attorney mentioned in the thread, resigned on January 20, 2025, shortly after President Trump’s inauguration, following over three years in her role.
- The ICE raids leak referenced in the post stems from early March 2025, when details of planned Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations in Aurora, Colorado, were exposed, prompting outrage from Trump border czar Tom Homan.
- Aber’s office, the Eastern District of Virginia, was implicated in the leak controversy, which some speculated might have led to her cooperating with ICE or potentially whistleblowing on Democratic interference.

Pretty sure Russia doesn’t care about an attorney “investigating” even if that were true. Use your head

 

[calvegas04]

She also got an Israeli extradited for immigration crimes.

We have a metric fuck ton of US attorneys. That a former one kicked the bucket isn't interesting.

It's very interesting, will be interested if it is swept under the rug.

 

[NorthDakota]

It's very interesting, will be interested if it is swept under the rug.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-m...virginia-us-attorney-death-medical-condition/

doesnt seem very interesting